Difference Between Islam and Muslim
Islam vs Muslim
Nearly one quarter of the world’s population follows the religion that was revealed to the Prophet Mohammed and subsequently transcribed into the Quran. Despite its number of faithful followers that have now settled across the globe, many Westerners don’t have a clear idea of what this religion entails. Subsequently, even incredibly fundamental questions, such as the difference between Islam and Muslim, arise as these same Westerners are beginning to explore their increasingly globalized world. Beyond linguistic distinctions, there are actually very few differences between Islam and Muslim.
Definition of Islam and Muslim
- Islam : the meaning comes from the Arabic verbal noun (like a gerund) s-l-m. When appropriate vowel markers are added the word Islam appears. The etymology of s-l-m is to submit, accept, or surrender. From this comes Islam’s conventional definition of surrender to God.
- Muslim : also has its roots in the s-l-m verb. It is a participle of the verb and refers to a person who engages in the act of submission, acceptance, or surrender. Therefore a Muslim is a person who submits to the will of God, or a follower of Islam.
Uses of Islam and Muslim
- Islam is generally used in conversation to denote the religion or community of believes as a whole. For instance: ‘The Islamic community in town will be celebrating Eid next week.’ It is also used when talking about the religion as a noun unto itself. For instance: ‘Islam is based on the sayings of the Prophet Mohammed that have been written down in the Quran.’
- Muslim is generally used in conversation to qualify or distinguish a person. For instance, ‘Remember the Muslim man who works at the bank?’ It can also be used as a simple description of one’s religious beliefs. For instance: ‘He is Christian but she is Muslim.’ Because Muslims are a minority community in many countries and most of the West, describing someone as Muslim may also reflect on their lifestyle and choice of dress in addition to their religious beliefs.
Misuses of Islam and Muslim
- Islam : grammatically speaking, Islam should only refer to the religion or acts done in the name of that religion, never a person who practices that religion. Islamic community and Islamic art are correct, Islamic man is not.
- Muslim should be used to describe all people of the Islamic faith but not the faith itself. You may say that you are interested in the religion of Muslims, but never in the Muslim religion.
Summary:
1.Islam and Muslim are both words used to describe the religion revealed to the Prophet Mohammed.
2.Islam and Muslim both have the same origin in the Arabic verb s-l-m.
3.Islam is the act of submitting to the will of God whereas a Muslim is person who participates in the act of submission.
4.To be correctly used, Islam or Islamic should describe the religion and its subsequent cultural concepts whereas Muslim should only describe the followers of the religion of Islam.
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People started fighting here also 😀 funny world!
Yes, some people just can’t help themselves. Idiots.
My god is better than your god! Neener neener neener! Lmoa. Smh.
LMAO you have summed up this whole conversation
ETERNITY, ETERNITY:
Where will you spend eternity?
DEATH is a reality we all must face and the question you need to ask yourself is: ”Where am I going when I DIE?”
The bible says that when we die we either go to Heaven or go to Hell.
To get to Heaven on our own merits “we must be perfect”. In fact, we have all sinned against GOD.
We naturally do that what is wrong, we lie, steal, lust, hate, disrespect GOD, get drunk etc.
Because God is a good judge he must punish sin.Our punishment is go to hell for eternity.However, God has provided the way for you to have your sins forgiven and enter heaven when you die. Jesus Christ came to earth to die on the cross in the place of sinners and 3 days later he rose again, defeating sin and death.
To be forgiven of all your sins you must repent (turn away and forsake your sins) and trust in JESUS’death and resurrection as the only means by which all your sins can be forgiven.
Please do that today,to find out more about Jesus you can look at:
Facebook:Repent and trust ministries.
Google:The way of the master
God bless you.
Salaam (peace Mr Jack) please watch this video and it will answer your questions;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jICKPV5BJKQ (Deabte ‘Was Jesus Really Crusified’)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLibaHnJCOo (Debate ‘Qur’an and the Bible in the light of Science Dr Zakir Naik VS Dr. William Campbell)
‘What makes a Good Friday good?’ Sheikh ahmed Deedat
No one has died and come back to life 3 days later. People tend to believe in what they have been taught all of their lives, without analyzing the teachings. This means Christians, Muslims, Jews, and anyone else who simply believes a set of teachings without engaging their brain. However, religion can be a solace for people who are afraid of dying. They think that life is hard, but they are on their way to a better place. However, this can not be proven. No one knows what happens after we die. I am simply an innately kind person. I do not know for a fact where innate goodness comes from. I just have compassion for those who are suffering. I do engage my brain. I know that I want to be happy and not to suffer, and I know that others want the same thing, so I try to promote happiness and nonsuffering for all beings, and not just those who are like me. I try to promote this for all beings, extending the principle to animals, and to our planet. When others are happy and healthy, I feel happiness. When others are unhappy and suffering, I feel sad, and try to help. This does not come from religion. It comes from being aware of my world, and feeling responsible for doing my part.
hmmm, how do you know everything?
I see you strt off you comments with something you have noted as factual “no one has died and come back after 3 days”. Just because you believe other wise doesn’t make that true. There were Romans who did not have any belief in this that reported of this in later years. There were a huge number of people that seen Jesus walking alive after his death on the cross. I understand and have heard you that can’t believe or won’t but that doesn’t change a majority that knows of the truth.
How do you know anything that happened outside of your lifetime without being a physical witness. This is where religion comes in to fill that gap of unknown awareness. We know things happened to shape our existence but we don’t know how these things came about so we try to make sense of it through religion. Unsurprisingly humans have a weakness for having their life story have a deeper meaning. To admit the seemingly futile notion that we exist for a time and then we’re gone is too much for some people to accept. So religion fills that gap.
What I don’t get is how people who have faith in their inherited or conversion religion find it unacceptable that other might not agree with them through the lack of evidence.
Much conjecture and little evidence makes humans a confused bunch.
Evidence is not needed when someone has EXPERIENCED GOD.
May that happen for you one day. ♡
It is a matter of the heart, and a great deal of study…it just doesn’t all make sense at first..but I do know that if you seek Him with all your heart, you will come to know Him…You have to invest time. Many many unbelievers atheists have come to change their beliefs.
But it is up to you the individual to put your time in…its to important a decision to make without investigating it! I was raised in a traditional Catholic religion, but if you would have asked me if I were going to heaven when I died I would have said I hope so..
I wasn’t sure of my salvation. That doesn’t come with head knowledge, it comes from a desire to know who God is who Jesus was and who is the Holy Spirit? Listen we read history books about things that happened and know about George Washington and events from before our time. We believe it because it was recorded and passed on to the future generations. So why not look at the Bible as a history book with great wisdom for us to gain…I pray your heart would be softened and your ears and mind will be opened! May God do a mighty work, and reveal Himself to you!! But its up to you to start the conversation He’s just waiting 🙂
Why cant we all just live together in peace. If you are someone who uses their brain (or took a class or two on World Religion), then you know that Christianity, Judaism, and Islam share the same old testament. I mean the word Muslim means one who submits to god. By that definition everyone who loves God is a Muslim. Religion is meant for “Spirituality” not for war. If that was the case, then we might as well kill ourselves because we will all eventually die during the ” whose God is better” war.
Those of you who do have a God or deity should be happy!!! You have someone to go to during hard times. Its scientifically proven that those people who have a deep sense of spirituality live longer and have LESS stress.
Why are we continuously fighting over NOTHING. Your god is as good as any other god. And if you are truly a man or woman of God then you should not be on here spreading HATE
People that serve God do not spread hate.
I truly love what you said and how you said it… Bravo.
Come on now man.. .Fiction is fiction. No one has EVER risen from the dead. Furthermore, out of all these supposed people who have seen this man Jesus here, there and everywhere, how is it that there is not ONE single account of this man in ANY book other than religious scripture? Doesn’t anyone want to think about this?
Hey, death sure is a scary thing to think about, I agree. And having faith in some kind of afterlife is okay too, but to believe in fables as fact, is entirely destructive to ones life, as well as to the hopeful evolution of our species.
With such backward thinking, we will never progress mentally, physically OR spiritually.
why don’t you read the oldest know book in history it is called the bible . no one has ever proved it wrong . but more to the point my savior lives yours is dead . why if you believe what you say don’t all of you go ahead a kill yourselfs and go to where ever you go and get it over with , I mean if you are gonna get 70 virgins and be blessed if I was you I would not stay here any loner I would just kill myself and live there for ever then they would be no more fighting no war and all would be peaceful for the rest of us. so why do you want to kill and start wars if you could just get the hell out of this old world and go home. I am just wondering. I love my life I don’t push people in any way I love all but I also don’t want to kill are hurt anyone even those I don’t understand. my someone love you as much as my LORD loves me. that is all I can hope for you . PS I love you . please think about caring and love . my hope/
Technically the oldest story ever written is “The epic of Gilgamesh”, not the Bible. Just saying…
Right on Bubba!
dear children of earth, you know nothing. None of you know anything. Not one single man knows the truth. Accept this and you will be free to believe yourself. If we were all to accept that no one, not a soul, knows the truth, then would be a more pleasant world? Maybe, maybe not: depends on your perspective. It would still be the world and you would still have to find food and water and somewhere to sleep. Remember the word truth is nothing but a human concept in itself to try to describe the difference between something that actually happened and something that did not, but could have. But when you properly understand that time is an illusion, as much as matter more akin to a field of space, and everything is always happening, then you will see that truth can be altered with barely a whisper and even that does not matter.
I totally disagree with Rhonda, I personally have what is called the holy spirit which is what Jesus left for us as a comforter as well as to intercede for us when we don’t know how to pray. When Jesus died, then came back to life he left the holy spirit here. I’ve almost died twice and both times I can tell you 100% that I am alive because I am supposed to be here to let people know that Jesus/God & the Holy spirit (or whatever you want to call it) is real. I know it as the holy spirit but others may know it differently. I have driven by bad accidents on the highway and suddendly it’ll come over me and I start speaking a laguage I have NO clue what I’m saying. I firmly believe and know in my heart that is the holy spirit interceding for the people who were in the accident. The holy spirit is a language that none of us can understand but God. Meaning the devil/evil or whatever you want to call it can’t understand what we’re praying for. This may all sound crazy to you because if it were me it would also but being I have lived through what I have lived through and have experienced what I have it’s not crazy 🙂 Have a lovely day!
Why did god take u into an accident. Whose child are u. It’s the devil who spoke through u so u live on! Nowhere it says HS speaks in unknown tongue.
you have no idea what you’re talking about is all I can say…
Careful, the pharisees called the works of the Holy Spirit works of the devil and for that Jesus pointed out that there is no forgiveness for that spesific type of blasphemy. Of course, when taking into account that He also mentioned that their own sons did the same as He did, it most probably means to self-justify one self in the face of impending judgement, as the pharisees had a lot of reason to want to disprove Jesus after what He showed the people concerning them.
So for safety, first make sure you know the words and translate them. Sometimes what looks like an angel is a devil in disguise, while the devil one sees next to it is actually the angel one cannot recognize because of prejudice.
You are definitely delusional. I hope you can eventually be cured of your ridiculous perceptions of the world around you. Pick up a damn modern science/neuroscience/philosophy book.
ooh wow, so you believe in those books.. You have your life, I have mine. My life is blessed with peace, love, Joy and very healthy. I love everyone NO matter what.
For the intellectuals: If the earth and planets move around the sun over the course of a year, please explain why we have one set of constellations all year round, in the same position give or take a few degrees for difference between summer and winter. And why do the planets move across the same track in the same position. And why was Sirius a red star 2000 years ago, while in the 1895 sci-fi novel The Time Machine, H.G. Wells describes Sirius as a green star (which i believe a man interested in science would have confirmed before writing, to keep scientists from mocking him) and nowadays it is a white star?
I believe that scientists should take more time to actually research what can be easily observed rather than to search for proof of what the demand must be though it is not. Such as the stated time for a red star to turn white, for one thing.
It is amazing that the major breakthroughs in science, except for the evolution-lie, were all by either Christians or deists – but all people who believed in a Creator and researched His creation. Only Galileo does not fit there – because no-one had considered questioning his “proof” of the Plato-inspired solar system model.
So instead of reading the modern science manuals and blindly believing what you are told by the luciferian World system, do some of your own thinking, do some of your own research. Scientists are not the be-all and end-all of knowledge: they are fallible me and women who in many cases, stand to lose their credentials, research grants and even their jobs if they err on what the community demands they tell the world.
This is for Koos. Distance from an object can distort how much you think an object had moved. The color change of the star is because the color is based on the angle it is seen in our atmosphere, so it can be seen as flashing between a few different colors. And Sirius is not just one star it is two. One white dwarf and super bright star right next to it.
What us wrong with Galileo? Do you believe the Sun revolves around the Earth? What wrong with Plato? I would view what he created as a “religion.” I see no problem in that.
And finally, have you been living under a rock in the past fifty years?
Ah, Rhonda, “you are not far from the Kingdom of God”………
Mark 12:28-34New International Version (NIV)
The Greatest Commandment
28 One of the teachers of the law came and heard them debating. Noticing that Jesus had given them a good answer, he asked him, “Of all the commandments, which is the most important?”
29 “The most important one,” answered Jesus, “is this: ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one.[a] 30 Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.’[b] 31 The second is this: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’[c] There is no commandment greater than these.”
32 “Well said, teacher,” the man replied. “You are right in saying that God is one and there is no other but him. 33 To love him with all your heart, with all your understanding and with all your strength, and to love your neighbor as yourself is more important than all burnt offerings and sacrifices.”
34 When Jesus saw that he had answered wisely, he said to him, “You are not far from the kingdom of God.”
Jesus also said everything from the Earth is sacred.
But I don’t see a bunch of Christians fighting for the legalization of Marijuana.
Which is a plant that comes from the Earth…..
If you are going to quote the bible don’t just mentions the sugar coated ones lol
What you have described “this comes from” is what is known as guidance from the Holy Spirit or as The Light of Christ. We all are born with The Light of Christ within us, giving us a sense of right and wrong. Some just choose to ignore it. God loves you enough to guide you whether you believe in Him or not.
And I want to do the same and only think and do “good” things on this Planet but sometimes I question my reasons – is it for my own ego? Is this the real me or the me who wants glorification? I hear “me” thinking and saying bad things sometimes and “I” say – hmmnm which “me” was that, it was not the thought or action I planned to have to become “nice”. As Father Anthony Dimelo said so rightly “don’t make a goal out of being awake (to all the sadness and madness of the World) otherwise we become enslaved to it “just let it flow”.
very well out rhonda. I feel I do not need a bunch of religion mumbo jumbo to know the deifference between right and wrong. All of our energy if neither created or destroyed, only transfered right? So I simply try to inspire energy to be positive with every step I take and every word I speak.
Most of the folks I have ever met that are extremely religious, are so because it helps them cope the negativity that they spread.
Hi Rhonda, that is exactly how I feel about religion and how I love to live my life. Compassion and kindness are keys to happiness. No need to have a religion to do good acts … give and you will receive so much more in return …
Actually Jesus was killed by the Romans for sedition… (he lived in a time when Messiahs were springing up everywhere, (original meaning of Messiah, of Son Of Man (later changed to Son Of God), was to lead all of Israel in repelling opposing occupying forces… Jesus claimed the term “King Of The Jews”, (it was inscribed on a plaque above his head), which means the Romans killed him for sedition. They didn’t give a crap about him he was crucified next to hundreds. Crucifixion was a COMMON form of execution for REBELLION, BANDITRY, and SEDITION. It helped disuade people from doing the same. IF Jesus was killed for Blasphemy by the Jews, he would have been STONED TO DEATH (it is in the bible… the punishment for blasphemy is stoning) Jesus Of Nazerath was a FASCINATING man, and deserves to be studied truthfully. Your interperation of Jesus is one that was written almost 200 years after he died… by a man who Jesus’s brother, and his followers condemned, and the best part is (the stories in the bible are not written by anyone who actually knew Jesus, just about people who did)… Learn you history my friend. It’s possible to be religious, and accept historical facts, as well as science.
Like your comments Drew. I am looking into the Demiurge, Creator God as opposed to God of Love, life hereafter? etc etc etc
“Stir the lead over a low heat, with gentle attention and the gold will rise to the top.”
Well said Drew and right direction Julie. Glad to see in this sea of lead which is moldable and pliable; yet in and of it nothing but death waiting to happen; there is still gold to be found.
Notice how a simple article about the differences of Islam and Muslims word usage steps down in to hate, name calling and finger pointing when all and all none of them truly know. Even atheist beliefs are based in faith and cannot be founded.
What is interesting to me is that the so called “Love thy Neighbors” folks are the most volatile.
Stay wise Drew and Stay the seeker Julie and let the rest rip themselves apart. Your words are wasted like throwing pearls to swine but at least you tried.
what a breath of fresh air in a polluted sea of ignorance.
God does not punish. You have chosen to believe that. The consequence of the things you do is what you are rewarded with.
When a person does nasty things to other people, those people usually want to pay that person back in the same way. This is the consequence of that person’s actions.
That’s why Jesus taught that “As you do unto others, it shall be done unto you.” Now if you do nice things for people, those people are most likely not going to do nasty things to you. Instead they might do something good for you.
Jesus said it another way too. “As you sow, So shall you reap.”
This is really not about punishment nor reward. It’s about consequence.
And by the way, when you die, there is no guarantee that you get into Heaven, even if you’re a believer in Christ. Christ said once to some very self-righteous temple going people and their high priests ” I tell you truly, that even the tax collectors and prostitutes are going into the Kingdom of God ahead of you.”
This tells us a couple of things. Getting into Heaven is a journey that takes place here on Earth. It’s not about going to church on the weekend, and it’s definitely not about being better than other people.
From what He was saying there is a place that some people are going to have to wait before they enter. They will gravitate to a place where there are others like them. Like attracts like. We see that in life. Like minds usually hang out together. Business people don’t hang out with losers and losers don’t hang out with business people. They hang out with each other because they feel most comfortable that way. They gravitate to each other through elements of attraction.
Now Christ told a thief that he would be in Paradise that evening with him when he was dying on the cross. We don’t know what the thief’s crime was, maybe he was caught poaching a pheasant on some fat Roman magistrate’s property in order to feed his family. Who knows? Yet Christ told him he would enter Paradise with him. So some people think prostitutes are low life’s and losers, but Christ didn’t.
He also said paraphrased here. that “Many of you on that day will tell me that you did great works in my name and that you always called to me in prayer and I will say to you Away from me, I never knew you.” I think he was talking about people who think that they have the right to bomb other countries like Iraq, a nation that never attacked the US. A lot of people in the US think they know who and where evil people are and that those people must be destroyed. They go to church on Sundays and ask God to bless their Troops. As if they think God really does such things.
God only blesses us with life in the Creation, for God and the Creation and Re-Creation of the Universe from moment to moment are one. You are in the Universe and the Universe is in you, therefore God cannot be anywhere else but in you.
People never learned what Christ was saying when he said “My Kingdom is an invisible kingdom, it is inside of us.” That means Heaven is now. It’s now or never. Most people missed it and never had a clue. They were looking outside or up at the clouds and it was passing by them right under their noses.
Others think it’s beyond the grave, but God and Heaven are not going to be any more real after death than they are now. People will tend to recur over and over until they get it right. Any lesson you didn’t learn in this lifetime that would have gotten you into Heaven, you will have to recur somewhere else and learn it before you understand.
There are millions of billions of galaxies in the Universe and countless places and planes and ways to retry our lessons until we get it right. “In my Fathers house are many mansions.” If you were the Gatekeeper of Heaven, would you let someone like yourself in? If you answered truthfully the answer would be NO. I wouldn’t let me in there and I’ve only met very few people in this life that would trust enough to enter.
From what I’ve seen of the majority of people in life, I know they a fairly self absorbed, jealous, envious, a bit greedy, ego centric, bitter and a number of other things. I’m not saying they’re demonic but they’re a far cry from being angelic. So hell no, I couldn’t trust them in Heaven. I’d just say sorry pal but you gotta go back and re-do this, this and this on the list there, then come back and we’ll talk about you getting in.
Maybe that’s what Christ meant when he said the prostitutes would enter before the self-righteous religious people.
In any event, it’s not a punishment if you don’t get to enter Heaven, it’s a consequence. So you need to enter Heaven now.
Christ left his prayer to guide us by. One instruction in there says “Thy Kingdom Come, thy will be done in Earth as it is in Heaven.”
That means you must bring the Kingdom here and bring it now.
You can’t do it with back-biting remarks about associates, or envy or rage, or greed, strutting about, inflicting judgement on others
and any number of things the majority of us do. The Kingdom ain’t coming that way and that’s for damned sure.
I constantly hear people referring to Karma as a future happening as a result of a good/bad thing which has usually been done by another person to the person referring to Karma (make sense?). A child asked me “do you believe in Karma”. My answer was, as I understand Karma, that we should not place too much emphasis on Karma as perhaps it is just a human revenge attitude and then how does Karma apply to the person wishing bad Karma on another person? I do consider (and not blindly believe) that when we return to dust and are reincarnated from dust then the reincarnation can be good or bad dust (depending!!!) and I always thought that, if my bad deeds on Earth outweigh my good deeds on Earth, I would be reincarnated as a cockroach in a Mortein factory! Think about that one
The question I ask is:
What is sin and how do we interpret sin?
Speaking under correction, i think it was Leonard Ravenhill who said that the essence of sin is to “take God off His throne and putting yourself (or nowadays, Human Rights) on the throne.”
In the Gospel of John, Chapter 14, the Lord Jesus mentions three or four times, that those who love Him will keep His Words/ obey His commandments. That is the Ten Commandments, which are really easy to work out as sensible rules to live in peace and harmony with others and with YHWH the Father.
The only new commandment the Lord gave, was that His flock must love one another.
So sin is merely to know better than YHWH which commandments to keep and which not (because, apparently we are FREE…. but nowhere did the Lord mention free to disobey His Words as we want).
Sin is whatever thoughts words and deeds we have that are not taking us towards God.
When we die we just die.we spend eternity like we did before we were born.
Naz Ali…
Read this… Az-Zukhruf (The Gold Adornments) Verse 61.
61. And he [‘Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary)] shall be a known sign for (the coming of) the Hour (Day of Resurrection) [i.e. ‘Iesa’s (Jesus) descent on the earth] . Therefore have no doubt concerning it (i.e. the Day of Resurrection). And follow Me (Allah) (i.e. be obedient to Allah and do what He orders you to do, O mankind)! This is the Straight Path (of Islamic Monotheism, leading to Allah and to His Paradise).
So please explain how the Qu’Ran mentions the resurrection yet Islam is adamant that Yeshua/Jesus is still buried? Do you trust a religion that contradicts itself ?
read and enrich yourself. where did the quran contradict itself
I am a Christian (Follower of JesusChrist) of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Other Christians claim us to be Cultists. We have endured the same stereotyping as do Muslims of the Islamic Faith. Some call us Mormons but in reality we are not Mormons. It is because we have additional scripture aside from the Bible which is called the Book of Mormon. Other so-called Christians have driven us out of our cities, burned our Temples, killed our prophet, killed our families and any kind of imagineable persecution. We understand the shallowness of true religion in many Christians. This is basically because many Christian Faiths have a hands-off approach and depend solely on their clerics to work out their salvation. Others claim to only beleive in Jesus and they are saved. There are many good Christians that do their best to follow their religion but fall short in understanding the full purpose of religion. We like those of the Islamic Faith pray directly to God. We make covenants with God. Where we separate in practice of religion is that we do these things in the Name of Jesus Christ whom we claim is our Savior. We claim that our authority comes from Jesus and it is Jesus Christ who is the head of our church and religion and has re-established his church in these latter days. Facing the brunt of other christian critics, I am sympathetic to the tactics used against those of the Islamic Faith. I really believe that 90% of the conflict lies in the misunderstanding of cultural influences of religion. The world is divided into many religions which in fact are stronger borders than lines drawn on the map. All of us are convinced that our religion is the only true religion and in promoting our convictions we tend to disregard our OWN rules to justify acts of war and violence. Our Religions then are exposed as not having the integrity whereas in reality it is the few bad people that spoil it all for everyone else. For example, the USA constitution clearly states that there should be the freedom of religion However, how many times has this been totally disregarded especially in the case against the members of my religion. Each act against us was somewhere justified. We survived and now are very strong. I think it is time that we all evaluate ourselves in where we stand. We should learn to live together in this world and learn to forgive regardless of how painful it is. The very truth is this: People are not forced to beleive one thing or another. They may pretend this to preserve their own life but a religous conviction comes from within and not a force exerted upon them. If what you practice is your belief, then practice it, if it is not your belief, then search for it.
Why do you go by LDS, because of the stigma associated w/ “mormon?”. If u read my previous reply u can see I’m for freedom of religion. One must study all religions 2 understand why they don’t want to be part of one or the other. However, I wonder why there is no trace of Jesus in the America’s except for your mysterious copper writings found in the ground. All religions have been attacked n tormented by someone at some time so please quit bitching.
LDS is short for Latter-day Saint whereas Saint in this sense is indicative a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Mormon is not a negative stigma as much as you would like it to be. Mormon was a great prophet in the americas who was a decendant of Lehi whom was commanded by God to Leave Israel before it was destroyed. He took a group of people and plates of brass and sailed to Americas to establish a God Fearing People. I see the truth bothers you and my point was that in the cloak of freedom of religion that there has been great infractions in said freedoms. Search deeply and analyse is there really freedom of religion and freedom of approved religions in society. Complaining is hardly part of our make up as “mormon” people. Despite all of the mob killings, burnings ,illegal expulsions not one has been brought to justice because the blood of the innocent will come to testify against the guilty. I live within 2 blocks from a mosque in either direction of my house here in the Philippines. I wonder if that could be possible in the States.
For being discovered so recently in comparison to other relics(1827 by J. Smith), where are these copper plates you speak of? No pictures? No location? These supposed plates are younger than this very young country, yet there is no evidence of them accept for the writings of a single discoverer..,sounds like the Sasquatch and U.F.O. witnesses or the discoverers of sacred items that seem to “disappear.”. “mormon” has no stigma? I think you should go out into the world, ask the public to talk about a “random” word, Mormon, and see what they say….I think you should look up the definition of stigma.
there is no prophet called by that name john smith started that so he could have more wives and got people to follow him nothing wrong in being a morman but it want get you to heaven because he died too only one died and rose again . hope you find him before you die . love you and always will pray for everyone . but when you meet CHRIST you will know there is no other. hope the hole world gets that chance. peace and love always . may youre life be blessed everyday .
I don’t think he was bitching as you say. He was explaining and giving examples and made some very good points.
no bad words!
very well put! I don’t consider myself to be any “religion” in my opinion religions are man made so to speak. What I have is a relationship with God, I believe in God/Jesus and the Holy Spirit a trinity all in one. We are wrong to judge other people as we are not to judge we are to love. I know the bible I read it says GOD IS LOVE. I don’t know anything of your religion but I think your response is good 🙂
As you suggest Kevin to do, you need to do a little “looking up” and gather some first hand information. Jesus and God’s love is the largest teachings of LDS. MYTH: LDS doesn’t believe in Jesus Christ…WRONG! ANY LDS aka Mormon, will testify to you that Jesus Christ is our Lord, Savior, Messiah, and only begotten Son of God our Heavenly Father. MYTH: LDS has their own Bible….WRONG! LDS aka Mormons read, study and believe in the Holy Bible and know that it is the word of God our Heavenly Father. LDS just ALSO has an additional book to study the word of God by…. full name “The Book of Mormon another testimony of Jesus Christ”. LDS also know that God gave us the Holy Spirit after Jesus resurrection, to guide us. One last point, man as everything else, was crested by God. Man has and always will need God’s word and guidance in all things. Just as God had prophets; Moses, Elijah, Abraham, etc, in days of old, He also has given us modern day prophets. He loves us, why would He not? In these modern times, with so much evil and wickedness, why would anyone think God wouldn’t when man needs it most? Doesn’t any good parent not give their children advice though out their days? The only way to the Father is through the Son, Jesus Christ, our Lord and Savior. Remember Jesus’ words, “love thy neighbor as thy love yourself”
How is there no remnants of the plates? If I received something as precious as the word of God, I would have taken care of them a little better. It’s not like they were discovered thousands of years ago..plus, they were engraved on metal. How come natives have no stories about Jesus?
Islam; The Rational Faith: Despite Islam having so much misconceptions & yet more people from various backgrounds embrace it! This is because when people from various faiths & Atheists as well as prominent scientists read Qur’an or its logical answers to every question & doubts, there remain very minor hesitations in being honest with oneself that this is The Truth & makes sense
Any rational person with scientific knowledge will come to the conclusion that (unlike normal religious scriptures) Qur’an never contradicts or conflicts with modern established science & logic…There are numerous scientific miracles mentioned in the Qur’an which have only recently been discovered by modern science. This is a book revealed 1400 years ago to a unlettered man (prophet Mohammad, peace be upon him) who could neither read nor write.
The Qur’an has recorded such amazing scientific information that many elite scientists & Atheists have embraced Islam. Some prominent examples include Professor Keith Moore, Dr Maurice Bucaille, Dr. Jeffrey Lang, Dr.Hormoz PhD, Physicist & Scientist Omar Dexter, Dr. Laurence Brown, and others (full list available on request or check them on http://www.youtube.com ). Please check out some of the following Quranic verses from the following videos which refer many areas of scientific phenomena: The Deen Show: The Top 5 Arguments For The Existence of God, No Brainer by Yusuf Estes, Qur’an & Modern Science by Dr Zakir Naik) & ‘You will be Judged’ by Khalid Yasin & many others which are available on request. Then comes the Challenge: “Do they not consider Qur’an with care, had it been from anyone besides God, there would have been many contradictions in it.” Quran 4:82
Islam means submission to the Will of Al-Mighty God (Allah-One God Alone). Islam does not mean Mohammedanism & Muslims are not Mohammedans because he who worships Prophet Mohammad has left the fold of Islam. Prophet Mohammad is not the founder of Islam but he is the Last Messenger & Final Prophet of God {thus his teachings should be followed until the end of time}. Muslims are not allowed to worship anyone or anything other than God-Al-Mighty alone, not Mohammad, Jesus, Moses (peace be upon them) or any other beings. However Muslims do love & respect all these prophets & messengers but do not worship them nor call upon them in need or in prayer. This is Islam, the pure, rational & the ONLY truly monotheistic faith which does not liken the Creator to His 1 creation. Some people allege that prophet Mohammad copied from their religious books regarding the scientific verses but they fail to realise that had this been the case, why then is there not a single scientific error in the Qur’an? Given that these other religious texts contain numerous scientific errors, how could Mohammad (pbuh) have known which parts were scientifically accurate and which were not? Thus these allegations are illogical! In fact God admonishes their false claims in the following Qur’anic verse 2:79 ” Woe to those who write the book with their own hands, and then say: This is form Allah, to traffic with it a miserable price! Woe to them for what their hands do write and woe to them for what they earn!”
Furthermore, we can also prove from the character/biography of Prophet Mohammad (pbuh) that he was not a liar as (1) The non-Muslims of his time used to call him al-Amin (the trustworthy) & as-Siddiq (meaning the truthful) and (2) If Prophet Mohammad (God-Forbid) was the author of Qur’an, how come the Qur’an is promoting/elevating other prophets like Adam, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph, Moses & Jesus (pbut) instead of himself? Why would Prophet Mohammad say that the mother of Jesus (Virgin Mary (pbuh)) was the chosen woman above all nations? If he was the author, surely he would have chosen his own mother, wife or any Arab woman. Why did he mention a Jewess? (3) He was not after money or fame as he was offered all the wealth of the Arabs at the time & was offered a kingdom on the condition that he abandons his mission to promote Islam. He refused & responded by saying “by Allah, if you place the sun in my right hand & the moon in my left hand, I will never give up this message until I perish therein”. (4) There was a solar Eclipse the day his son (named Ibrahim) died & people were saying look the day is being darkened due to respect for the son of the Prophet but. Instead of using this situation to promote himself or elevate his status with the people he instead said while pointing up to the sky “This is the sun and this is the moon, they’re from the signs of Allah, & they do not rise or set or eclipse for the death or birth of any man, so when you see this, pray to your Lord” & he taught us the prayer of the eclipse.
Are these not the words of a prophet? Amongst many proofs of his prophet hood we have only mentioned 4. Now it’s your choice to accept or reject to worship the One Who sent this Prophet & The One Who created you and the Universe.
Unlike other religions & philosophies Islam is unique because it represents a complete way of life, to the extent that it even teaches its followers how to clean themselves, worship, interact with others & even how (morally) to go to bed, the toilet & other daily activities including sexual relations between husband & wife. All of these things are considered forms of worship because they prevent corruption & allow us to live our lives in a way that pleases our Creator.
If you’re still not convinced of the creation of the world by God but believe in the Big Bang then consider this: the Qur’an says in Surah Anbiya 21:30 that Big Bang did happen (“Do the unbelievers not see, that the heavens & the earth were joined together (as one unit body) and We1 split them asunder”). If you allege that we’re a product of random selection/chance then I suggest you think again as we know that ‘nothing comes from nothing’. If there isn’t a Creator then how comes all the galaxies/planets are in such perfect order? Even a small explosion creates chaos, so how can whole galaxies swim smoothly in the Milky-way (orbits) after a HUGE explosion (the Big Bang)?
Do you ever ask yourself the question “who created God”? This is as illogical as asking the question “If Mr. John gave birth to a child, is the child a girl or boy?”. If you’re intelligent, you’ll say “a man (Mr. John) cannot give birth” so the question itself is flawed & illogical. Hence the question “who created God” is similarly illogical, as God is uncreated and He is the Creator. Finally, Islam is not just a religion but a complete way of life..though Qur’an is not a book of science it contains scientific miracles. Everything in the Qur’an is presented in a logical and intelligent manner. Even though it was revealed over 1400 years ago it is a religion for all times & its laws will never become out of date. A religion for all times & all peoples, The Universal Faith.
PS. For those Philosophers who deny Allah/God-Almighty (after clear proofs have been given to them) we have the following response: “According to you there’s no God due to a lack of testable evidence. You reason that if you don’t see, hear or smell God then He doesn’t exist. However I don’t see, hear or smell your brain, so does this mean that you don’t have a brain?”
To become a Muslim one should make the following declaration of faith (preferable before 2 witnesses): “There is no god worthy of worship but Allah and Mohammad is His Final prophet & the Last Messenger of Allah.
Footnote: 1 The word He or His used above for God is not gender-based but rather (Huwa: He) an Arabic expression of honour. The word 1 We (Nahno or Khalaqna) used for God (above) is not a term of plurality but rather represents the royal style of respect when referring to oneself like when a king or queen addresses their people e.g.” we have decreed so & so…”
NB; In over 1400 years the Qur’an has not changed by even a single letter, let alone a word. It is exactly how it was revealed to Prophet Mohammad (pbuh) via Angel Gabriel. 100% pure and uncorrupted. The Glorious Qur’an challenges all humankind (with easy but stern challenge) to try produce just a chapter somewhat similar like unto Qur’an (“And if you are in doubt as to that which We have revealed to Our servant (Prophet Mohammad), then produce one chapter somewhat like it (min mithlihi) and call on your witnesses besides Allah if you are truthful. But if you cannot do it and for a surety/fact (challenge) you can NOT do it, then be prepared for the Fire (of Hell) whose fuel is men and stones it is prepared for the unbelievers!!” Qur’an 2:23-24.. ..Qur’an is the Book of facts: “Say; the Truth has come and falsehood perished. For falsehood is by its nature bound to perish” 17:81. The Qur’an has enough ‘Proof’ to satisfy a commoner as well as an elite Scientist… The Book that has been memorized cover to cover (entirely) by billions of people (Muslims around different parts of the World) despite most of them not even being Arab. .. .
>>For more information & authentic Islamic literature please purchase a copy of Qur’an, Sahih Al-Bukhari & Sahih Muslim in your language…Thank you for your time & consideration…
Concept of God in Major Religions (Please let’s unite on NOT only believe in One God but also worship Him Alone without intermediaries)
Hinduism: Those whose intelligence has been stolen by material desires worship dummy gods: Bhugwad Geeta Chapter 7 Verse 20
Ekam Evaditiyum (meaning God is only One without a second) Chandogya Upanishad 6:2:1
Na Tasya Pratima Asti ( meaning There is no Image or Idol of Him: Yajurved 32:31
Ma Chiddanyadvi Shansata ( “O friends do not Worship anybody but Him, the Devine One”) Rigveda Book 8:1:1
Christianity: God is not a man nor a son of man. Numbers 23:19…and this is life eternal, that they might know Thee The ‘Only One’ True God, and Jesus Christ, which Thou has sent: Bible, John 17:3…Jesus of Nazareth-a man approved of God: Mathew 5:17-20..and Jesus merely repeated what Moses had said: “Shama Israelo Adonai Hayno Adna Ikhad – Hear O Israel: The Lord our God is One God: Mark 12:29.
Sikhism: There exists but One God, Who is called the Creator, free from fear and hate, immortal not begotten, Self Existent, Great and Compassionate: Sri Guru Granth Sahib Vol: 1 Japuji the first verse. He is also called: ‘Wahe Guru’-The One True God, Rahim, Karim
Judaism: Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is One. Deuteronomy 6:4-9. I am the Lord; & besides Me there is no saviour: Isaiah 43:11.Thou shalt have none other gods before me. thou shalt not make thee any graven image or any likeness of anything that is in the heaven above or that is in the earth beneath or that is in the water beneath the earth. Thou shalt not bow down to them, nor serve them; for I, thy God, am a jealous God: Deuteronomy: 5:7-9 & Exodus: 20:3-5
Zoroastrianism (Parsiism): The Greatest: Yasna, 31:7, Beneficent-Hudai: Yasna:33:11 & 48:3 Bountiful-Spenta: Yasna: 43:4, Davasatir, Ahura Mazda: (1) He is One (2) nothing resembles Him (3) He is without an origin or end (4) He has no father or mother, wife or son…
Islam: “Say: He is Allah, The One and Only, Allah, The Eternal , He begets not, nor is He begotten, And There is nothing like unto Him.” Glorious Qur’an: 112:4 …”If there were, in the heavens and the earth, other gods besides Allah, there would have been confusion in both! But Glory be to Allah, the Lord of the Throne: (High is He) above what they attribute to Him!” Al-Quran 21:22
Conclusion: Ultimately all major religions believe in existence of One God, but due to through the passage of time most of the religious scriptures have been distorted & changed by people for their own benefits. The creed of many religions has thus been distorted from monotheism to pantheism or polytheism due to distortion & corrupting the message of worshiping One God Alone! …Furthermore, We can also conclude from Buddhist scriptures that Buddha never claimed divinity either but people seem to love to worship the creation than the Creator…The Glorious Qur’an urges Muslims to preach but not force their religion on anybody: “Say: O people of the Book! Come to common terms as between us and you: That we worship none but Allah (God); that we associate no partners with Him; That we raise not among ourselves, lords and patrons other than Allah! If they turn back, say; ‘you bear witness that we are Muslims (meaning we bow to the Will of God)”: Qur’an 3:64
Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) in Various Religious Scriptures (amongst many only a few have been selected urging non-Muslims to follow his path till the end of time)
Hinduism: Atharvaveda Bhavishya Purana Prati Sarag Parv III Khand 3 Adhay 3 Shloka 5 to 8 (&10 to 27. “A malecha (belonging to a foreign country and speaking a foreign language) spiritual teacher will appear with his companions. His name will be Mohammad. Raja (Bhoj) after giving this Maha Dev Arab (of angelic disposition) a bath in the Panchgavya & Ganga water (i.e. purifying him of all sins) offered him the present of his sincere devotion and showing him all reverence said, “I make obedience to thee. O ye! The pride of mankind, the dweller in Arabia, Ye have collected a great force to kill the Devil and you yourself have been protected from the malecha opponents.”
Sikhism: Page 14 Bhai Bhala’s Janam sakhi: Baba Guru Nanak preached: ” Pekh padho Kalama rab da Mohammad nal milay. Ho ya mashuk-e-khuda yeda hoya Yallah” (Translation: ” O pious people: Recite the kalma of the Creator adding to it the name Mohammad. Who is beloved by God by dedication of his very self to Allah”
Christianity: Glorious Qur’an 7 verse 157: “Those who follow the Messenger, the unlettered Prophet. Bible Book of Isaiah chapter 29 verse 12: “And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, and he saith, I am not learned. ” When Archangel Gabriel commanded Muhammad by saying Iqra -“Read”, he replied, “I am not learned” Quranic Surah Al-‘Alaq (Read/Recite/Proclaim!) 96..John 16: 12-13: I (Jesus) have many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now howbeit when he, the spirit of Truth come he will guide you into all Truth, for he shall not speak of himself, but all that he hear that shall he speak, and he will show you things to come, he shall glorify me”. {Guiding to ALL TRUTH Prophet Mohammad did it, 2nd prophesy; he shall NOT speak of himself but all that he hears (from God (Qur’an) that shall he speak, 3rd; he showed us things to come by miracle of Qur’an that scientists only now discover as scientific facts (so thus not a single scientific error in Qur’an) 4th; he shall glorify me, (3rd chapter of Qur’an Ale Imran & Surah Mariam or Chapter Mary 19 {specially named after the mother of Jesus (such chapter does not even exist in the Bible & neither chapter Jesus but Qur’an uplifts Jesus’ status as well as God’s Final Messenger Mohammad does it…
Buddhism: Chakkavatti Sinhnad Suttanta D. III, 76: “There will arise in the world a Buddha named Maitreya ( benevolent one, an enlightened one, endowed with wisdom in conduct, auspicious:” What he has realised by the knowledge he will publish to this universe. He will preach his religion, glorious in its origin, glorious at its climax, glorious at the goal, in the spirit and the letter. He will proclaim a religious life, wholly perfect and thoroughly pure; even as I now preach my religion and a like life do proclaim. He will keep up the society of monks numbering many thousands, even as now I keep up a society of monks numbering many hundreds” Gospel of Buddha Carus pg. 217…
Zoroastrianism/Parsiism: Zend Avesta Farvardin Yasht chapter 28 verse 129 (Sacred Books of the East, volume 23, Zend Avesta Part II pg. 220): “Whose name will be the Victorious, Soeshyant and whose name will be Astvat-ereta. He will be Soeshyant (The Beneficent one) because he will benefit the whole bodily world. He will be Astvat-ereta (he who makes the people, bodily creatures rise up) This Prophecy applies to no other person more perfectly than to Muhammad (pbuh): The Prophet was not only victorious at Fatah Makkah but was also merciful when he let go the blood thirsty opponents by saying: “There shall be no reproof against you this day”.Soeshyant means the ‘praised one’ (refer Hasting’s Encyclopedia), which translated in Arabic means Muhammad (pbuh). & in Zamyad Yasht 16 : 95
Judaism: Almighty God speaks to Moses in Book of Deuteronomy chapter 18 verse 18: “I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and I will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.” Book of Deuteronomy chapter 18:19 “And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not harken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him.” Muhammad (pbuh) is prophesied in the Book of Isaiah. Song of Solomon Page 1155:Chapter V, Verse 16: Hikko mamittakim we kullo ‘Mohammadim’, zehdoodeh wa zehraee bayna Jarusalem” This Hebrew text has been translated as “His mouth is most sweet, yea: he is altogether lovely (in actual fact it’s Mohammad). This is my beloved, and this is my Friend, O daughters of Jerusalem”
NB: More similarities include; Hinduism & Christianity religious scriptures also prescribes veil for females to cover their head & to wear modest clothing (loose-fit & not tight-fit nor see trough or skin color nor half sleeves) “RigVeda:8 Hymn:33 V19 & more & I Timothy 2:9, I Corinthians 11:3-10, Mathew 2:28, . Islam. Sahih Muslim2128, Sharh of Nawawi 1603, Qur’an 24:30-31, 33:59, Bukhari 6:60:|H282,1:8:|H 368)..>>Christianity: Jesus was circumcised Luke 2:21, Jesus had a beard. He (Jesus) fell on his face & prostrated to his Lord; Mathew; 16:39 (like Muslims do 5 times a day) & the texts prohibits magic/horoscopes, alcohol & pork. & Hindu’s are allowed to eat non-veg; Mahabharata; Anushashan Parva CH.88, Manusmriti: CH:5 V 30 & should put 8 parts of bodies on the ground (‘shashtang’) (like Muslims do 5 times a day as 5 daily prayers is the only main thing that keeps one Muslim (Sahih Muslim 1/146, Thirmidhi 2622 etc). Things have to be practical i.e. one who claims to love God but does not follow His apostles’ claims are flawed & as illogical as one who works in a company but never plays a role in any task, will the boss keep him or kick him out of the job for just sitting around & no intention to work there? We are Not being ordered by God-Almighty to worship Moses, Jesus, Mohammad, (peace be upon them), any saints or any other beings but God Alone, none besides God & none along with God, but God-Alone, direct without intermediaries but via teachings of His Last Prophet & Final Messenger Mohammad (may peace be upon him) thus it’s only logical that we should choose to beseech God instead of His creation, hence the word ‘Islam’ meaning ‘submission to God’ & Muslim is ‘one who has submitted to God’)… thus all religions don’t lead to same goal as normally religions are named after its founders, places & people but Islam does not mean Mohammadanism as one who worships Mohammad leaves Islam..
PS: we should avoid superstitions, religious innovations including no: 13, 666 or 786, power in precious stones, stars relating to luck etc, talismans, grave worship & shrines, music, fornication/adultery & things leading to such as these are nothing but works of the devil diverting servants from the pure worship of their Creator {though if these sins have been committed then know that God is oft-Forgiving, Merciful according to Islam, thus we should ask His forgiveness prior to death}>> but, if one considers God becoming or being a man, an idol etc then you have disqualified that being of being God as The Creator of this vast Universe cannot be like His creation nor is He everywhere but He is above the heavens & the Earth on His Throne..One can embrace Islam easily simply by uttering the following words (preferable before 2 witnesses): there is but One God Who Alone deserves to be worshipped & that Mohammad is His Final Messenger & Last Prophet… Glorious Qur’an is unchanged Book of God wherein there is no doubt & Qur’an has no contradictions of any kind: “Do they not consider Qur’an with care, had it been from anyone besides God, there would have been many contradictions in it.” 4:82. Qur’an is the Book of facts: “Say; the Truth has come and falsehood perished. For falsehood is by its nature bound to perish” 17:81. The Qur’an has enough ‘Proof’ to satisfy a commoner as well as an elite Scientist…
>>> PS: The Glorious Qur’an challenges all humankind (with easy but stern challenge) to try produce just a chapter somewhat similar like unto Qur’an (“And if you are in doubt as to that which We have revealed to Our servant (Prophet Mohammad), then produce one chapter somewhat like it (min mithlihi) and call on your witnesses besides God if you are truthful. But if you cannot do it and for a surety you can NOT do it, then be prepared for the Fire (of Hell) whose fuel is men and stones it is prepared for the unbelievers!!” Qur’an 2:23-24…The Glorious Qur’an has been memorized entirely cover to cover, word by word in its original Arabic language by millions of people (Muslims) around the World despite most of them not even being Arabs!!
.. >>>For authentic Islamic literature please purchase a copy of Qur’an, Sahih Al-Bukhari & Sahih Muslim in your language.. Thank you for your time & consideration…
NAZ ALI – please give your fingers a rest and stop repeating yourself. Your comments are boring now.
Mithreya Buddha is not a God my ignorant Extremist friend.
The Buddhas are born as humans again and again rarely but surely, to guide mankind (and gods etc) to guide them to end suffering.
This Great sacred being called Buddha had a continued wish,will and a practice of goodwill to become a Buddha through many uncountable lives. (not only when borne as human). That’s why those extremely good qualities appear in such a human born but a “Beyond God” personality. Buddhas are incomparable to any such man made Gods.
Reading few documents is not enough, should be able to “UNDERSTAND BY AN OPEN MIND”. But unfortunately, many muslims are trained not to do so. That is not your fault.
No hard feelings. May you be well and happy….!
The religion of (Islam) is simple.
Naz and others
Instead of wasting time babbling about Muslims and Islam. Please speak with your brothers and sisters and concentrate on stopping your barbaric practices. I except all religions until they have believers that practice killing the innocent. History has periods of time when various religions were corrupt and killed, but we are no longer in the 12th century. This is 2014! I hope that all Muslims join together to stop there brothers and sister from their barbaric ways…..Otherwise the only choice is to eradicate the religion from the world.
Religion is an excuse for stupid idiots to fight with each other. They all think they have a right to hate other humans and a right to start a fight. Fight, fight, fight! That is main part of your own personal religion – fight!
Total madness! Give it a rest for God’s sake!
Religion can be used as an excuse to fight but your belief that it is the sole reason for fighting is ignorant…humans naturally dislike and are afraid of things that are different from their own person beliefs an characteristics. To say all religion does is promote fighting is a sign that you are very uneducated. Please don’t talk about your degrees as a sign of your education because I go to school with many uneducated people. Don’t blame religion, blame stupid people that don’t make decisions for themselves and the sheep…you seem to have a very elementary understanding of society and human interaction.
Secularism and Atheism has brought about the total destruction who are the maker of guns, biological weapons, jet fighters, abortion, warships etc etc. Atheists’ claims the most lives and the destruction of the ozone layers….
It’s not any religion that brings wars but those who claim to belong to it might not be following it properly,, i.e. if one buys a Mercedes car and hire a driver and the driver bangs up the car.. Who’ll you blame the car or the driver? But natural the driver as he/she don’t know how to driver the car so don’t blame religion but its alleged followers…
Q: Can you (Muslims) ‘PROVE’ that Islam is the Truth’? Think about it>>
A: Yes, without a shadow of a doubt! Please read on>>>
Despite Islam having so much misconceptions & yet more people from various backgrounds embrace it!
This is because when people from various faiths & Atheists as well as prominent scientists read Qur’an or its logical answers to every question & doubts, there remain very minor hesitations in being honest with oneself that this is The Truth & makes sense…Hence we have clear ‘PROOF’ that Islam is the Truth…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMlk0th7Enw (The Deen Show: “The Top 5 Arguments For The Existence of God)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybnJKLEla3Y (proof Islam is the Truth ‘No Brainer’ by Yusuf Estes)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5h6CNhtVls (Qur’an & Modern Science (full) by Dr Zakir Naik)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsovikQmHdU (Feminism ‘Ahmed Deedat Best Answer of the question’)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pk0AaZQOrc4 (Death! ‘You will be Judged’ by khalid yasin)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=My7N8rEwbwk (Feminism ‘Dr Zakir Naik Atheist Guy Questions’
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kn8dzCx2Uqw (Dr Zakir Naik ‘Misconceptions about Islam)
Because u have secular followers, it’s the truth? None of the religions can really be “proven” but they can be found to have positive influences on peoples lives, thus making them true…it really doesn’t matter what the truth is anyways…because most of the sheep of the world just want something to believe in and follow, regardless of truth. If you do “A”, “B” will result, demonstrates truth but stories about gods and what not CANNOT be proven…it takes FAITH. Most prominent religions have truth in their teachings.
Dear E, as a Muslim, please check out Muslims’ ‘Proof’ of God below:
Before we look at the Islamic answer to the purpose of life this article explains the reasons why Islam is the truth.
Ever since the dawn of mankind, we have sought to understand nature and our place in it. In this quest for the purpose of life many people have turned to religion. Most religions are based on books claimed by their followers to be divinely inspired, without any proof. Islam is different because it is based upon reason and proof.
There are clear signs that the book of Islam, the Quran, is the word of God and we have many reasons to support this claim:
There are scientific and historical facts found in the Quran which were unknown to the people at the time, and have only been discovered recently by contempory science.
The Quran is in a unique style of language that cannot be replicated, this is known as the ‘Inimitability of the Quran.’
There are predictions made in the Quran and by the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) which have come to be pass.
This article lays out and explains the scientific facts that are found in the Quran, centuries before they were ‘discovered’ in contemporary science. It is important to note that the Quran is not a book of science but a book of ‘signs’. These signs are there for people to recognise God’s existence and affirm His revelation. As we know, science sometimes takes a ‘U-turn’ where what once scientifically correct is false a few years later. In this article only established scientific facts are considered, not just theories or hypothesis.
Scientific Facts in the Quran
The Quran was revealed to the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) in the 7th century.
Science at the time was primitive, there were no telescopes, microscopes or anything even close to the technology we have today. People believed that the sun orbited the earth and that the sky was held up by big pillars at the corners of a flat earth. Within this backdrop the Quran was revealed, and it contains many scientific facts on topics ranging from astronomy to biology, geology to sociology.
Some people may claim that the Quran was changed as new scientific facts were discovered but this cannot be the case because it is a historically documented fact that the Quran is preserved in its original language [2]. The Quran was written down and memorised by people during the lifetime of the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh). One of the copies of the Quran which was written a few years after the death of the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) is preserved in a museum in Uzbekistan. This copy is over 1400 years old and is exactly the same as the Arabic Quran that we have today[3].
The following are nine scientific facts found in the Quran:
1. Origin of Life
Water is essential for all living things. We all know that water is vital to life but the Quran makes a very unusual claim:
We made every living thing from water? Will they not believe? [21:30]
In this verse water is pointed out as the origin of all life. All living things are made of cells. We now know that cells are mostly made up of water [4]. For example, 80% of the cytoplasm (basic cell material) of a standard animal cell is described as water in biology textbooks.
The fact that living things consist mostly of water was discovered only after the invention of the microscope. In the deserts of Arabia, the last thing someone would have guessed is that all life came from water.
2. Iron
Iron is not natural to the earth. It did not form on the earth but came down to earth from outer space. This may sound strange but it’s true. Scientists have found that billions of years ago the earth was stuck by meteorites. These meteorites were carrying Iron from distant stars which had exploded [5].
The Quran says the following on the origin of Iron:
We sent down Iron with its great inherent strength and its many benefits for humankind [57:25]
God uses the words ‘sent down’ for Iron. It is clear from the verse that Iron is not an earthly material, but was sent down for the benefit of humanity. The fact that Iron came down to earth from outer space, is something which could not be known by the primitive science of the 7th century.
3. Sky’s Protection
The sky plays a crucial role in protecting the earth. The sky protects the earth from the lethal rays of the sun. If the sky did not exist then the sun’s radiation would have killed off all life on earth. It also acts like a blanket wrapped around the earth, to protect it from the freezing cold of space. The temperature just above the sky is approximately -270oC. If this temperature was to reach earth then the planet would freeze over instantly. The sky also protects life on earth by warming the surface through heat retention (greenhouse effect), and reducing temperature extremes between day and night [6]. These are some of the many protective functions of the sky.
The Quran asks us to consider the sky in the following verse:
We made the sky a protective ceiling. And yet they are turning away from Our signs! [21:32]
The Quran points to the sky’s protection as a sign of God. The protective properties of the sky were discovered by scientific research conducted in the 20th century.
4.Mountains
The Quran draws our attention to a very important characteristic of mountains:
Did We not make the earth a resting place? And the mountains as stakes? [78:6-7]
The Quran indicates that mountains have deep roots by using the word stakes to describe them. In fact mountains do have deep roots [7], and the word stakes is an accurate description for them. A book titled ‘Earth’ by Geophysicist Frank Press explains that mountains are like stakes, and are buried deep under the surface of the earth [8].Mount Everest (pictured below), the height of which is approximately 9 km above ground, has a root deeper than 125 km.
The fact that mountains have deep ‘stake’ like roots was not known, until after the development of the theory of plate tectonics in the beginning of the 20th century [9].
5. Expansion of the Universe
At a time when the science of Astronomy was still primitive, the expansion of the universe was described in Quran:
And it is We who have built the Universe with [Our creative] power and keep expanding it. [51:47]
The fact that the universe is expanding was discovered in the last century. The physicist Stephen Hawking in his book ‘A Brief History of Time’ writes, “The discovery that the universe is expanding was one of the great intellectual revolutions of the 20th century.”[10].
The Quran mentioned the expansion of the universe even before the invention of the telescope!
6. Sun’s Orbit
In 1512 the astronomer Nicholas Copernicus put forward his theory that the Sun is motionless at the centre of the solar system, and that the planets revolve around it. The belief that the Sun is stationary was widespread amongst astronomers until the 20th century. It is now a well-established scientific fact that the Sun is not stationary, but is moving in an orbit around the centre of our Milky Way galaxy [11].
The Quran mentions the orbit of the Sun:
It is He who created night and day, the Sun and the Moon, each floating in its orbit. [21:33]
The Quran would have been wrong according to astronomers just a couple of decades ago. But we now know that the Quranic account of the Sun’s motion is consistent with modern Astronomy.
7. The Ocean
The Quran uses imagery to covey its deep meanings, here it describes the state of the unbelievers as:
Darkness out in a deep ocean which is covered by waves, above which are waves, above which are clouds, layers of darkness, one upon the other. When one puts out his hand [therein], he can hardly see it. Those God gives no light to, they have no light. [24:40]
It is commonly thought that waves only occur on the surface of the ocean. However oceanographers have discovered that there are internal waves that take place below the surface of the ocean. These waves are invisible to the human eye, and can only be detected by specialist equipment [12]. The Quran mentions darkness in a deep ocean above which are waves, above which are waves, then clouds above that. This description is not only remarkable because it describes the internal waves in the ocean, but also because it describes darkness deep in the ocean. A human being can dive no more than 70 metres without breathing equipment. Light is present at that depth, but if we go down 1000 metres it is completely dark [13]. 1400 years ago there were no submarines or specialist equipment to discover internal waves or the darkness deep inside the oceans.
8. Lying and Movement
There was a cruel oppressive tribal leader named Abu Jahl who lived during the time of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh). God revealed a verse of the Quran to warn him:
No Indeed! If he does not stop, We will seize him by the forehead, his lying, sinful forehead. [96:15-16]
God does not call this person a liar, but calls his forehead (the front part of the brain) ‘lying’ and ‘sinful’, and warns him to stop.
This verse is significant for two reasons. The first is that the front part of our brain is responsible for voluntary movement [14] .This is known as the frontal lobe. A book titled ‘Essentials of Anatomy and Physiology’ which includes the results of research on the functions of this area states: The motivation and the foresight to plan and initiate movements occur in the anterior portion of the frontal lobes, the prefrontal area [15]. The part of the brain that is responsible for movement is said to be seized if the man does not stop.
Secondly, numerous studies have shown that this same region (frontal lobe) is responsible for the lying function of the brain [16].One such study at the University of Pennsylvania in which volunteers were asked questions during a computerized interrogation, it was found that when the volunteers were lying there was significantly increased activity in the prefrontal and premotor cortices (frontal lobe region) [17].
The front part of the brain is responsible for movement and lying. The Quran links movement and lying to this area. These functions of the frontal lobe were discovered with medical imaging equipment which was developed in the 20th century.
9. Pain Receptors
For a long time it was thought that the sense of feeling and pain was dependent on the brain. However it has been discovered that there are pain receptors present in the skin [18]. Without these pain receptors, a person would not be able to feel pain.
Consider the following verse on pain:
We shall send those who reject Our revelations to the (Hell) Fire. When their skins have been burned away, We shall replace them with new ones so that they may continue to feel the pain: God is Almighty, All-Wise. [4:56]
God tells the people who reject his message that when they are in Hell and their skins are burnt off (so they can’t feel any pain), he will give them new skins so that they continue to feel the pain.
The Quran makes it clear that pain is dependent upon on the skin. The discovery of pain receptors in the skin is a fairly recent discovery for Biology.
Conclusion
These are just some of the many scientific facts found in the Quran. It is important to note that the Quran is not a book of science, but that it is consistent with science. To claim that scientific facts in the Quran are due to coincidence would be irrational. The best explanation is that God revealed this knowledge to the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh).
Just like the Quran contains knowledge about the natural world, it also contains information about the inner dimensions of our souls. It relates to our feelings, wants and needs. The Quran informs us that we have a purpose in life, and that following God’s guidance will lead us to inner peace in this life, and Paradise in the hereafter. And that rejection of his message will lead to depression in this life and Hellfire after death.
We shall show them Our signs in the Universe and within themselves, until it becomes clear to them that this is the Truth. Is it not enough that your Lord is the witness of all things? [Quran 41:53]
Please click on the ‘Purpose of Islam’ article to find the meaning of life according to Islam.
References
[1] Antony Flew, There Is a God: How the World’s Most Notorious Atheist Changed His Mind
[2] The Magnificent Qur’an: A Unique History of Preservation
[3] http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/4581684.stm
[4] Bruce Alberts, Essential Cell Biology
[5] M. E. Walrath, History of the Earth’s Formation
[6] Joseph M. Moran, Meteorology: the Atmosphere and the Science of Weather [7] Terry A. Hicks, How Do Mountains Form? [8] Frank Press and Raymond Siever, Earth
[9] Naomi Oreskes, Plate Tectonics: An Insider’s History Of The Modern Theory Of The Earth [10] Stephen Hawking, A Brief History Of Time
[11] Lambert M. Surhone, Orbital Period: Orbit, Sun, Earth, Conjunction, Orbital Node, Apsis, Semi-Major Axis
[12] M. Grant Gross, Oceanography: A View of Earth
[13] Danny Elder, Oceans
[14] http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2289137
[15] Rod R. Seeley, Essentials of Anatomy & Physiology
[16] http://cercor.oxfordjournals.org/content/20/1/205.full.pdf
[17] http://www.americanscientist.org/issues/pub/2002/3/diogenes-new-lamp
[18] Michael Darmon, Molecular Biology of the Skin: The Keratinocyte
At the end of day of the day religion are man made paganism to divide and control peoples minds, and today people don’t even know the real name of God.
Muslims belief mohammed was the messiah, when he didn’t even know how to read or right and he married a 9 year old girl, and was a camel driver who also deceived people…. mohammed was a littered.
ishmael didn’t get the covenant from God, but abraham wanted God to give the covenant to ishmael but God almighty chose isaac over ishmael, but God did blessed ishmael with a fruitful nation…. Arabs are the children of ishmael but they don’t have the covenant.
The people that are in israel today are not the real jews, but they are the synagogue of satan, just read the bible Rev. 2:9.
Please, if you want to quote the Bible, quote it correctly.
Abraham came from the lineage of Noah’s blessed son, Shem. Arabia is from the lineage op the cursed son, Ham. And the two being brothers, there is no way that Ishmael is from the lineage of Ham, nor the Arabians from the lineage of Shem. The basis for islam, and one of the principle beliefs advertised in the Qu’Ran, is a lie. There is no Abrahamic lineage for Arabia.
Now you may say that Hagar was a slave from Egyptian descent? Yes, Egyptian. But Arabia is mentioned in the lineage of Ham, not the lineage of Shem. Nor is Arabia mentioned to be a son of Egypt(Mizraim).
It is widely considered that the Arabians come from the Cushites, a brother of Mizraim(Egypt).
And of course, the lineage goes through the father, not the mother. So no matter how many slave girls Abraham took, their lineage will all be Semitic. Not Hamitic, as the Arabians turn out to be.
But considering that YHWH’s angel gave a promise to Hagar that her son’s descendants will live among their brethren, every hand aginst him and his hand against every man, i say that the Ishmaelites are the Palestinians: they live among the Israeli’s, are taken care of by the Israeli’s while the Arab countries reject them. The World cares not really for them except to get them to take Palestine for islam (every hand against him) and they live in constant war (his hand against every man).
So study the book you wish to quote. islam is based on deceit, even the roots of it, it Abrahamic lineage-lie, is to deceive true Children of YHWH into the mainstream religion of satan.
Get out of there.
I agree because the real jews are the 12 tribes of israel, the ones who was running from roman persecution in 70 AD. and they went in to africa to blend in with the other dark races, and read the bible Rev. verse 64 and 68, the real jews was sold in to bondage and they are scattered in 4 corners the earth because they broke the laws of God, but these are the name of the 12 tribes of israel.
Tribe of Judah/ the black negros in america
Tribe of Benjamin/ the Jamaicans
Tribe of Levi/ the Haitians
Tribe of Simeon/ the Dominicans
Tribe of Gad/ the north american indians
Tribe of Ephriam/ the puerto ricans
Tribe of Asher/ black brazilians/ Argentina
Tribe of Zebulun/ Panama/ Columbians
Tribe of Issacher/ the mexicans
Tribe of Mannaseh/ Cubans
Tribe of Napthli/ Hawaiians/ Samoans
Tribe of Reuben/ Seminole indians
hahahahahha
every ppl know their God from books. On dis earth there are no one who know god by self hahahahahaha
http://www.answering-islam.org/
GOD bring a PEACE not a LESSON to make a WAR.
Islam; The Rational Faith:
Any rational person with scientific knowledge will come to the conclusion that (unlike normal religious scriptures) Qur’an never contradicts or conflicts with modern established science & logic…There are numerous scientific miracles mentioned in the Qur’an which have only recently been discovered by modern science. This is a book revealed 1400 years ago to a unlettered man (prophet Mohammad, peace be upon him) who could neither read nor write.
The Qur’an has recorded such amazing scientific information that many elite scientists & Atheists have embraced Islam. Some prominent examples include Professor Keith Moore, Dr Maurice Bucaille, Dr. Jeffrey Lang, Dr. Laurence Brown, and others (full list available on request or check them on http://www.youtube.com ). Please check out some of the following Quranic verses from the following videos which refer many areas of scientific phenomena: The Deen Show: The Top 5 Arguments For The Existence of God, No Brainer by Yusuf Estes, Qur’an & Modern Science by Dr Zakir Naik) & ‘You will be Judged’ by Khalid Yasin & many others which are available on request. Then comes the Challenge: “Do they not consider Qur’an with care, had it been from anyone besides God, there would have been many contradictions in it.” Quran 4:82
Islam means submission to the Will of Al-Mighty God (Allah-One God Alone). Islam does not mean Mohammedanism & Muslims are not Mohammedans because he who worships Prophet Mohammad has left the fold of Islam. Prophet Mohammad is not the founder of Islam but he is the Last Messenger & Final Prophet of God {thus his teachings should be followed until the end of time}. Muslims are not allowed to worship anyone or anything other than God-Al-Mighty alone, not Mohammad, Jesus, Moses (peace be upon them) or any other beings. However Muslims do love & respect all these prophets & messengers but do not worship them nor call upon them in need or in prayer. This is Islam, the pure, rational & the ONLY truly monotheistic faith which does not liken the Creator to His 1 creation.
Some people allege that prophet Mohammad copied from their religious books regarding the scientific verses but they fail to realise that had this been the case, why then is there not a single scientific error in the Qur’an? Given that these other religious texts contain numerous scientific errors, how could Mohammad (pbuh) have known which parts were scientifically accurate and which were not? Thus these allegations are illogical! In fact God admonishes their false claims in the following Qur’anic verse 2:79 ” Woe to those who write the book with their own hands, and then say: This is form Allah, to traffic with it a miserable price! Woe to them for what their hands do write and woe to them for what they earn!”
Proving the Creator; There are four proofs or pieces of evidence for the existence of a Creator Firstly: The Law of Cause and Effect or Causality {Cosmological Argument}
For anything to happen there must be a cause e.g. whatever we see must have come into being because it was made or that some event occurred which caused it to come into being. The ultimate cause for everything is The Creator of the universe.
Wondering who made the Creator? The answer is very easy: Most of the scientists would agree that the universe is finite for it cannot go on forever and it started with the big bang and it is still expanding-‘The Big Bang Theory’ and it was not just the ‘matter’ that came into being but also it was even The Laws of The Universe that came into being. Therefore, The Laws of The Universe are within this finite universe which is constructed with a space-time continuum. This means that space and time are linked together within this universe, this is agreed by most scientists. The Creator is not within this universe; therefore, he is not constrained by space and time, he does not have a beginning and consequently does not need a Creator. A scientist would agree that anything outside this universe is outside this space time continuum.
Secondly: The Precision and design in The Universe {Teleological Argument}.
The second piece of evidence for the existence of the Creator is the complexity and the precision in the design of the universe. This would point to ‘intelligence’ in the design. This intelligence would point to an intelligent being; who is The Creator.
Thirdly: The lives of certain very good human beings who came with an identical message and claimed to be sent by God. These were Messengers of God. There were many of these Messengers or Prophets. For example: Noah, Abraham, Moses, David, Solomon, Joseph, Jacob, Jesus and finally Mohammad [peace be upon them all].
Were these people normal, mad or deluded? These Prophets were incredibly good people and to prove that they were sent by God, they all performed miracles. They claimed that they performed these miracles with the power of Almighty God.
For Example: Moses [peace be upon him] parted the red sea [with God’s power] and the children of Israel escaped from The Pharaoh.
Jesus [peace be upon him] brought the dead back to life, healed the leper and cured the person who was born blind; all with God’s power
Mohammad [peace be upon him] was given a miracle as great as, if not greater than, the earlier prophets. The miracle is present today and it is The Qur’an.
Fourthly: The Miraculous Qur’an. This book is a miracle for a number of reasons. This book proves that; there is A Creator and that Mohammad was a true Prophet of Almighty God and that Islam is true. And that the purpose of our life is to worship our Creator though the Creator does not need us but it is in our best interest that we should beseech Him in order to attain permanent success in this life and more importantly hereafter where there is gardens underneath which rivers flow, rivers of honey, milk and wine and to reject then an eternal abode in Hell-Fire with no escape route.
Furthermore, we can also prove from the character/biography of Prophet Mohammad (pbuh) that he was not a liar as (1) The non-Muslims of his time used to call him al-Amin (the trustworthy) & as-Siddiq (meaning the truthful) and (2) If Prophet Mohammad (God-Forbid) was the author of Qur’an, how come the Qur’an is promoting/elevating other prophets like Adam, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph, Moses & Jesus (pbut) instead of himself? Why would Prophet Mohammad say that the mother of Jesus (Virgin Mary (pbuh)) was the chosen woman above all nations? If he was the author, surely he would have chosen his own mother, wife or any Arab woman. Why did he mention a Jewess? (3) He was not after money or fame as he was offered all the wealth of the Arabs at the time & was offered a kingdom on the condition that he abandons his mission to promote Islam. He refused & responded by saying “by Allah, if you place the sun in my right hand & the moon in my left hand, I will never give up this message until I perish therein”. (4) There was a solar Eclipse the day his son (named Ibrahim) died & people were saying look the day is being darkened due to respect for the son of the Prophet but. Instead of using this situation to promote himself or elevate his status with the people he instead said while pointing up to the sky “This is the sun and this is the moon, they’re from the signs of Allah, & they do not rise or set or eclipse for the death or birth of any man, so when you see this, pray to your Lord” & he taught us the prayer of the eclipse.
Are these not the words of a prophet? Amongst many proofs of his prophet hood we have only mentioned 4. Now it’s your choice to accept or reject to worship the One Who sent this Prophet & The One Who created you and the Universe.
Unlike other religions & philosophies Islam is unique because it represents a complete way of life, to the extent that it even teaches its followers how to clean themselves, worship, interact with others & even how (morally) to go to bed, the toilet & other daily activities including sexual relations between husband & wife. All of these things are considered forms of worship because they prevent corruption & allow us to live our lives in a way that pleases our Creator.
If you’re still not convinced of the creation of the world by God but believe in the Big Bang then consider this: the Qur’an says in Surah Anbiya 21:30 that Big Bang did happen (“Do the unbelievers not see, that the heavens & the earth were joined together (as one unit body) and We1 split them asunder”). If you allege that we’re a product of random selection/chance then I suggest you think again as we know that ‘nothing comes from nothing’. If there isn’t a Creator then how comes all the galaxies/planets are in such perfect order? Even a small explosion creates chaos, so how can whole galaxies swim smoothly in the Milky-way (orbits) after a HUGE explosion (the Big Bang)?
Do you ever ask yourself the question “who created God”? This is as illogical as asking the question “If Mr. John gave birth to a child, is the child a girl or boy?”. If you’re intelligent, you’ll say “a man (Mr. John) cannot give birth” so the question itself is flawed & illogical. Hence the question “who created God” is similarly illogical, as God is uncreated and He is the Creator. Finally, Islam is not just a religion but a complete way of life..though Qur’an is not a book of science it contains scientific miracles. Everything in the Qur’an is presented in a logical and intelligent manner. Even though it was revealed over 1400 years ago it is a religion for all times & its laws will never become out of date. A religion for all times & all peoples, The Universal Faith.
PS. For those Philosophers who deny Allah/God-Almighty (after clear proofs have been given to them) we have the following response: “According to you there’s no God due to a lack of testable evidence. You reason that if you don’t see, hear or smell God then He doesn’t exist. However I don’t see, hear or smell your brain, so does this mean that you don’t have a brain?”
To become a Muslim one should make the following declaration of faith (preferable before 2 witnesses): “There is no god worthy of worship but Allah and Mohammad is His Final prophet & the Last Messenger of Allah.
Footnote: 1 The word He or His used above for God is not gender-based but rather (Huwa: He) an Arabic expression of honour. The word 1 We (Nahno or Khalaqna) used for God (above) is not a term of plurality but rather represents the royal style of respect when referring to oneself like when a king or queen addresses their people e.g.” we have decreed so & so…”
NB; In over 1400 years the Qur’an has not changed by even a single letter, let alone a word. It is exactly how it was revealed to Prophet Mohammad (pbuh) via Angel Gabriel. 100% pure and uncorrupted. The Glorious Qur’an challenges all humankind (with easy but stern challenge) to try produce just a chapter somewhat similar like unto Qur’an (“And if you are in doubt as to that which We have revealed to Our servant (Prophet Mohammad), then produce one chapter somewhat like it (min mithlihi) and call on your witnesses besides Allah if you are truthful. But if you cannot do it and for a surety/fact (challenge) you can NOT do it, then be prepared for the Fire (of Hell) whose fuel is men and stones it is prepared for the unbelievers!!” Qur’an 2:23-24.. ..Qur’an is the Book of facts: “Say; the Truth has come and falsehood perished. For falsehood is by its nature bound to perish” 17:81. The Qur’an has enough ‘Proof’ to satisfy a commoner as well as an elite Scientist… The Book that has been memorized cover to cover (entirely) by billions of people (Muslims around different parts of the World) despite most of them not even being Arab. .. .
>>For more information & authentic Islamic literature please purchase a copy of Qur’an, Sahih Al-Bukhari & Sahih Muslim in your language…Thank you for your time & consideration…
NAZ a.k.a NAZ ALI – GIVE your fingers a rest!! and stop advertising your ‘Qur’an, Sahih Al-Bukhari & Sahih Muslim’ after every novel you type (with the same preach). Yawn…
My dear All religion is conspiracy!, Thank you for tiring your fingers in typing your opinion, In my religion we [Muslims] have a Rational faith thus we believe in ‘Proof’ & I had to write Qur’an, Sahih Bukhari & Sahih Muslim so that no one can make allegations or divert you to other sources which are alien to Islam, and I am not here to guide you, I only suggest and ask consideration of such due to the fact that my religious book [Quran] urges me to do and it is the book that ‘CHALLENGES’ people of ALL ranks to find a contradiction [even one discrepancy] in it, and then you can criticize it all you want hence a book that gives you falsification test deserves to be heard.
Nevertheless, you do not have to accept it as “There is no compulsion in the Religion, Truth stands out clear from error” [Quran 2:256] and [41:53] “We [God] will show them Our proofs in the horizons, and within themselves, until it is clear to them that this is the truth. Is your Lord not sufficient as a witness of all things?”
So I am compelled to request you all to consider reading this book that despite being 1400 years old, has no contradiction and it has not been changed nor corrupted and has enough ‘PROOF’ to satisfy Logical and sane human beings that there is A Creator, Who is as we ‘Prove’ in the following way as well:
Proving the Creator; There are four proofs or pieces of evidence for the existence of a Creator
Firstly: The Law of Cause and Effect or Causality {Cosmological Argument} For anything to happen there must be a cause e.g. whatever we see must have come into being because it was made or that some event occurred which caused it to come into being. The ultimate cause for everything is The Creator of the universe.
Wondering who made the Creator? The answer is very easy: Most of the scientists would agree that the universe is finite for it cannot go on forever and it started with the big bang and it is still expanding-‘The Big Bang Theory’ and it was not just the ‘matter’ that came into being but also it was even The Laws of The Universe that came into being. Therefore, The Laws of The Universe are within this finite universe which is constructed with a space-time continuum. This means that space and time are linked together within this universe, this is agreed by most scientists. The Creator is not within this universe; therefore, he is not constrained by space and time, he does not have a beginning and consequently does not need a Creator. A scientist would agree that anything outside this universe is outside this space time continuum.
Secondly: The Precision and design in The Universe {Teleological Argument}. The second piece of evidence for the existence of the Creator is the complexity and the precision in the design of the universe. This would point to ‘intelligence’ in the design. This intelligence would point to an intelligent being; who is The Creator.
Thirdly: The lives of certain very good human beings who came with an identical message and claimed to be sent by God. These were Messengers of God. There were many of these Messengers or Prophets. For example: Noah, Abraham, Moses, David, Solomon, Joseph, Jacob, Jesus and finally Mohammad [peace be upon them all]. Were these people normal, mad or deluded? These Prophets were incredibly good people and to prove that they were sent by God, they all performed miracles. They claimed that they performed these miracles with the power of Almighty God.
For Example: Moses [peace be upon him] parted the red sea [with God’s power] and the children of Israel escaped from The Pharaoh.
Jesus [peace be upon him] brought the dead back to life, healed the leper and cured the person who was born blind; all with God’s power
Mohammad [peace be upon him] was given a miracle as great as, if not greater than, the earlier prophets. The miracle is present today and it is The Qur’an.
Fourthly: The Miraculous Qur’an. This book is a miracle for a number of reasons. This book proves that; there is A Creator and that Mohammad was a true Prophet of Almighty God and that Islam is true. And that the purpose of our life is to worship our Creator though the Creator does not need us but it is in our best interest that we should beseech Him in order to attain permanent success in this life and more importantly hereafter where there is gardens underneath which rivers flow, rivers of honey, milk and wine and to reject then an eternal abode in Hell-Fire with no escape route.
Thanks again for you kind suggestion and hope to hear from you again and no problem, all criticism are welcome, I cannot mind anyone’s objections or challenges…
And last not least, Dear Zurez, Thanks for your interest, insha’Allah [God-Willing] I’ll email you now…
Naz my son, I am a false God and you should just stfu.
Islam founded by Mohammad hundreds f years after Isa Al masseh.
Adopted all the teaching of moses and Prophets of the bible now telling they are true.how come?
They even denied halfly the teaching of Christ.
If everyone obey Christ teaching all will live in peace.Christ give life.and gentle even to unbelievers.are you islam like him?
Always people try to say much even far beyond their knowledge without acknowledging the other side that they no knowledge of it. To my fellow Muslims, sometimes is better to stay quite rather than speaking.
@ Naz Ali : can you please email me at. Zurez4u@gmail.com. I am impressed by your viewpoint.
@ Kevin ( the person from the Mormon faith): can you please contact at the above id. I wish to know more about Mormons.
Dear Manoj, I can give you many ‘Proof & Evidences’ regarding your allegations to be false but. One comment will be enough, if Muslims killed Indians and forcefully converted people, how comes the Muslims are ‘MINORITY’ and non-Muslims in majority?
Today, Islam is the fastest growing Religion in the World!! Even amongst Atheists, Scientists and feminist women!!
Ever wonder why?
Use your brain please, Islam is Logical faith but the media portrays it otherwise…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kn8dzCx2Uqw (Dr Zakir Naik ‘Misconceptions about Islam)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjsk9gt3hvI [Dr Zakir Naik ‘is Terrorism monopoly of Islam?]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybnJKLEla3Y (proof Islam is the Truth ‘No Brainer’ by Yusuf Estes)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5h6CNhtVls (Qur’an & Modern Science (full) by Dr Zakir Naik)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=My7N8rEwbwk (Feminism ‘Dr Zakir Naik Atheist Guy Questions’
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gbk1BospcPM (Festive gift ‘Birth of Jesus {peace be upon him’ From Qur’an Chapter 19 Surah Mariam or Chapter Mary)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUmcbg92u0w&feature=related (Vegitarian or meat eater? ‘Is non vegetarian food permitted or prohibited for a human being’ please watch ALL Full video debate between Indian Vegitarian Society President RashmiBhai Zaveri VS dr zaikir Naik’)
‘Proof’ of Truthfulness of the Muslims belief [Islam]
Before we look at the Islamic answer to the purpose of life this article explains the reasons why Islam is the truth.
Ever since the dawn of mankind, we have sought to understand nature and our place in it. In this quest for the purpose of life many people have turned to religion. Most religions are based on books claimed by their followers to be divinely inspired, without any proof. Islam is different because it is based upon reason and proof.
There are clear signs that the book of Islam, the Quran, is the word of God and we have many reasons to support this claim:
There are scientific and historical facts found in the Quran which were unknown to the people at the time, and have only been discovered recently by contempory science.
The Quran is in a unique style of language that cannot be replicated, this is known as the ‘Inimitability of the Quran.’
There are predictions made in the Quran and by the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) which have come to be pass.
This article lays out and explains the scientific facts that are found in the Quran, centuries before they were ‘discovered’ in contemporary science. It is important to note that the Quran is not a book of science but a book of ‘signs’. These signs are there for people to recognise God’s existence and affirm His revelation. As we know, science sometimes takes a ‘U-turn’ where what once scientifically correct is false a few years later. In this article only established scientific facts are considered, not just theories or hypothesis.
Scientific Facts in the Quran
The Quran was revealed to the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) in the 7th century.
Science at the time was primitive, there were no telescopes, microscopes or anything even close to the technology we have today. People believed that the sun orbited the earth and that the sky was held up by big pillars at the corners of a flat earth. Within this backdrop the Quran was revealed, and it contains many scientific facts on topics ranging from astronomy to biology, geology to sociology.
Some people may claim that the Quran was changed as new scientific facts were discovered but this cannot be the case because it is a historically documented fact that the Quran is preserved in its original language [2]. The Quran was written down and memorised by people during the lifetime of the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh). One of the copies of the Quran which was written a few years after the death of the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) is preserved in a museum in Uzbekistan. This copy is over 1400 years old and is exactly the same as the Arabic Quran that we have today[3].
The following are nine scientific facts found in the Quran:
1. Origin of Life
Water is essential for all living things. We all know that water is vital to life but the Quran makes a very unusual claim:
We made every living thing from water? Will they not believe? [21:30]
In this verse water is pointed out as the origin of all life. All living things are made of cells. We now know that cells are mostly made up of water [4]. For example, 80% of the cytoplasm (basic cell material) of a standard animal cell is described as water in biology textbooks.
The fact that living things consist mostly of water was discovered only after the invention of the microscope. In the deserts of Arabia, the last thing someone would have guessed is that all life came from water.
2. Iron
Iron is not natural to the earth. It did not form on the earth but came down to earth from outer space. This may sound strange but it’s true. Scientists have found that billions of years ago the earth was stuck by meteorites. These meteorites were carrying Iron from distant stars which had exploded [5].
The Quran says the following on the origin of Iron:
We sent down Iron with its great inherent strength and its many benefits for humankind [57:25]
God uses the words ‘sent down’ for Iron. It is clear from the verse that Iron is not an earthly material, but was sent down for the benefit of humanity. The fact that Iron came down to earth from outer space, is something which could not be known by the primitive science of the 7th century.
3. Sky’s Protection
The sky plays a crucial role in protecting the earth. The sky protects the earth from the lethal rays of the sun. If the sky did not exist then the sun’s radiation would have killed off all life on earth. It also acts like a blanket wrapped around the earth, to protect it from the freezing cold of space. The temperature just above the sky is approximately -270oC. If this temperature was to reach earth then the planet would freeze over instantly. The sky also protects life on earth by warming the surface through heat retention (greenhouse effect), and reducing temperature extremes between day and night [6]. These are some of the many protective functions of the sky.
The Quran asks us to consider the sky in the following verse:
We made the sky a protective ceiling. And yet they are turning away from Our signs! [21:32]
The Quran points to the sky’s protection as a sign of God. The protective properties of the sky were discovered by scientific research conducted in the 20th century.
4.Mountains
The Quran draws our attention to a very important characteristic of mountains:
Did We not make the earth a resting place? And the mountains as stakes? [78:6-7]
The Quran indicates that mountains have deep roots by using the word stakes to describe them. In fact mountains do have deep roots [7], and the word stakes is an accurate description for them. A book titled ‘Earth’ by Geophysicist Frank Press explains that mountains are like stakes, and are buried deep under the surface of the earth [8].Mount Everest (pictured below), the height of which is approximately 9 km above ground, has a root deeper than 125 km.
The fact that mountains have deep ‘stake’ like roots was not known, until after the development of the theory of plate tectonics in the beginning of the 20th century [9].
5. Expansion of the Universe
At a time when the science of Astronomy was still primitive, the expansion of the universe was described in Quran:
And it is We who have built the Universe with [Our creative] power and keep expanding it. [51:47]
The fact that the universe is expanding was discovered in the last century. The physicist Stephen Hawking in his book ‘A Brief History of Time’ writes, “The discovery that the universe is expanding was one of the great intellectual revolutions of the 20th century.”[10].
The Quran mentioned the expansion of the universe even before the invention of the telescope!
6. Sun’s Orbit
In 1512 the astronomer Nicholas Copernicus put forward his theory that the Sun is motionless at the centre of the solar system, and that the planets revolve around it. The belief that the Sun is stationary was widespread amongst astronomers until the 20th century. It is now a well-established scientific fact that the Sun is not stationary, but is moving in an orbit around the centre of our Milky Way galaxy [11].
The Quran mentions the orbit of the Sun:
It is He who created night and day, the Sun and the Moon, each floating in its orbit. [21:33]
The Quran would have been wrong according to astronomers just a couple of decades ago. But we now know that the Quranic account of the Sun’s motion is consistent with modern Astronomy.
7. The Ocean
The Quran uses imagery to covey its deep meanings, here it describes the state of the unbelievers as:
Darkness out in a deep ocean which is covered by waves, above which are waves, above which are clouds, layers of darkness, one upon the other. When one puts out his hand [therein], he can hardly see it. Those God gives no light to, they have no light. [24:40]
It is commonly thought that waves only occur on the surface of the ocean. However oceanographers have discovered that there are internal waves that take place below the surface of the ocean. These waves are invisible to the human eye, and can only be detected by specialist equipment [12]. The Quran mentions darkness in a deep ocean above which are waves, above which are waves, then clouds above that. This description is not only remarkable because it describes the internal waves in the ocean, but also because it describes darkness deep in the ocean. A human being can dive no more than 70 metres without breathing equipment. Light is present at that depth, but if we go down 1000 metres it is completely dark [13]. 1400 years ago there were no submarines or specialist equipment to discover internal waves or the darkness deep inside the oceans.
8. Lying and Movement
There was a cruel oppressive tribal leader named Abu Jahl who lived during the time of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh). God revealed a verse of the Quran to warn him:
No Indeed! If he does not stop, We will seize him by the forehead, his lying, sinful forehead. [96:15-16]
God does not call this person a liar, but calls his forehead (the front part of the brain) ‘lying’ and ‘sinful’, and warns him to stop.
This verse is significant for two reasons. The first is that the front part of our brain is responsible for voluntary movement [14] .This is known as the frontal lobe. A book titled ‘Essentials of Anatomy and Physiology’ which includes the results of research on the functions of this area states: The motivation and the foresight to plan and initiate movements occur in the anterior portion of the frontal lobes, the prefrontal area [15]. The part of the brain that is responsible for movement is said to be seized if the man does not stop.
Secondly, numerous studies have shown that this same region (frontal lobe) is responsible for the lying function of the brain [16].One such study at the University of Pennsylvania in which volunteers were asked questions during a computerized interrogation, it was found that when the volunteers were lying there was significantly increased activity in the prefrontal and premotor cortices (frontal lobe region) [17].
The front part of the brain is responsible for movement and lying. The Quran links movement and lying to this area. These functions of the frontal lobe were discovered with medical imaging equipment which was developed in the 20th century.
9. Pain Receptors
For a long time it was thought that the sense of feeling and pain was dependent on the brain. However it has been discovered that there are pain receptors present in the skin [18]. Without these pain receptors, a person would not be able to feel pain.
Consider the following verse on pain:
We shall send those who reject Our revelations to the (Hell) Fire. When their skins have been burned away, We shall replace them with new ones so that they may continue to feel the pain: God is Almighty, All-Wise. [4:56]
God tells the people who reject his message that when they are in Hell and their skins are burnt off (so they can’t feel any pain), he will give them new skins so that they continue to feel the pain.
The Quran makes it clear that pain is dependent upon on the skin. The discovery of pain receptors in the skin is a fairly recent discovery for Biology.
Conclusion
These are just some of the many scientific facts found in the Quran. It is important to note that the Quran is not a book of science, but that it is consistent with science. To claim that scientific facts in the Quran are due to coincidence would be irrational. The best explanation is that God revealed this knowledge to the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh).
Just like the Quran contains knowledge about the natural world, it also contains information about the inner dimensions of our souls. It relates to our feelings, wants and needs. The Quran informs us that we have a purpose in life, and that following God’s guidance will lead us to inner peace in this life, and Paradise in the hereafter. And that rejection of his message will lead to depression in this life and Hellfire after death.
We shall show them Our signs in the Universe and within themselves, until it becomes clear to them that this is the Truth. Is it not enough that your Lord is the witness of all things? [Quran 41:53]
Please click on the ‘Purpose of Islam’ article to find the meaning of life according to Islam.
References
[1] Antony Flew, There Is a God: How the World’s Most Notorious Atheist Changed His Mind
[2] The Magnificent Qur’an: A Unique History of Preservation
[3] http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/4581684.stm
[4] Bruce Alberts, Essential Cell Biology
[5] M. E. Walrath, History of the Earth’s Formation
[6] Joseph M. Moran, Meteorology: the Atmosphere and the Science of Weather [7] Terry A. Hicks, How Do Mountains Form? [8] Frank Press and Raymond Siever, Earth
[9] Naomi Oreskes, Plate Tectonics: An Insider’s History Of The Modern Theory Of The Earth [10] Stephen Hawking, A Brief History Of Time
[11] Lambert M. Surhone, Orbital Period: Orbit, Sun, Earth, Conjunction, Orbital Node, Apsis, Semi-Major Axis
[12] M. Grant Gross, Oceanography: A View of Earth
[13] Danny Elder, Oceans
[14] http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2289137
[15] Rod R. Seeley, Essentials of Anatomy & Physiology
[16] http://cercor.oxfordjournals.org/content/20/1/205.full.pdf
[17] http://www.americanscientist.org/issues/pub/2002/3/diogenes-new-lamp
[18] Michael Darmon, Molecular Biology of the Skin: The Keratinocyte
I do not follow any organised religion, but am very interested in religious history. If you watch a “good” documentary about Mohammed, and I have seen many, you will understand what he did was revolutionary. He believed in peace, he believed in every man is equal, he believed in women’s rights…you only have to look at is 20 plus year marriage to his first wife. Yes, he did marry multiple wives after that time, but it is widely believed this was done from a strategic point of view to bring peace to all the tribes….and it worked. I am not saying he didn’t love any of the multiple wives….who really knows.
One must also remember that polygamy was common place back in those times and having multiple wives was the “norm” in that time, so the fact that he only had 1 wife for 20 years was actually very unique in that era.
He believed in respect and he certainly didn’t believe in killing anyone who didn’t want to follow Islam.
I really believe Mohammed and other prophets like Jesus would be scratching their heads thinking “how could they get it all wrong”. It has gone wrong because people after them changed interpretations to suit their situations at the time. That is, they changed things for personal gain, notoriety and power. In regard to Christianity, you only have to look at how many times the Bible has been changed over the centuries to suit ruling Pope’s etc.
If people got back to the basic message of Mohammed and Jesus, we would indeed have world peace.
Also, Mohammed did not hate the Jews….again look into the history. The reason he killed the Jews was because of treason against Medina. If the people committing treason where Christians, pagans, whatever, they would have been killed….it was not because they were Jews. Remember this was the punishment of the time for treason. Not so long ago, it was still the punishment for treason.
Mohammed was a peace activist. If you study the history, you only have to look at his trip to Mecca, and the agreement he made with the ruling class at the time, to understand this.
It is totally unfair to “brand” all Muslims the same….of course there are some extremists that have misinterpreted the basic message of Mohammed, but then of course there are many Christians who have misinterpreted the message of Jesus.
In my opinion, the basics of Islam is beautiful…..peace, respect, harmony and unfortunately there is a minority (absolute minority, when you consider the number of people who follow Islam), who are doing damage.
On a final note, whether you believe in Islam or not, can you imagine life with peace, respect and harmony…who can argue with that.
That would be a perfect World, which unfortunately will never exist
According to Coran, Abraham and Adam were respected MUSLIMS.. OK, so you can be a Muslim without being introduced to Coran , Torah and Bible.
All who believe in and pray a single GOD (ALLAH) instead of many gods are therefore may be considered MUSLIM. They may not be ISLAM if they are not practicing rules of Coran, but just like ADAM and Abraham they can be Muslim.
I am smart enough to understand what I read.. The rest I don’t listen..Just like Coran Said I read..and understood..
Dear Cihat, There has been reasons for the revelation by the God-Almighty [Allah] is that one believes & practically follow the rules, unless one who has no access at all to the rules {The final Rules are the Qur’an & authentic Ahadith i.e. Bukhari, Muslim etc} then one can be Muslim as long as he/she does not worship other gods alone with or besides The One God… [Qur’an 112:1-4; “Say; He is God, The One, God, The absolute, Eternal, The Neither Begets, Nor was He Begotten, And There is Nothing Like Him”]
But, if one is able to gain access to them but refuse to obey the Guidance then he/she is liable to face the consequences. Now, that given the modern technology, one does not need to spend vast amount money in order to attain the above information as ‘The Full/Complete Qur’an’ and ‘Authentic ahadith’ are available via http://www.google.com , hence, it is necessary to follow the commands of our Creator, but. should one wish to have a personal interaction with Daees [those who teach or preach Islam] then one can drop in a personal email to naz_007999@yahoo.co.uk along with their Religious or philosophical background information so that, we can communicate in a positive manner & present Evidences/Proof to make a consideration….
Thank you
muslim/islam=evile/satan.. ive spent some time investigating islam and i was SHOCKED to find that it is not a religion but a political ideology used to persecute and get people to persecute… look for yourself don’t take my word for it.. decide for yourself where your trying to end up for eternity after you die.
Those Christians here who say; Christianity is about “Peace” And Islam is About “Violence” Should their Bible Again! Their Loving God {Jesus Christ} who was supposed to be with God the Father at the time of Moses, he ordered the murders of those men, women and children! He destroyed Sodomon Gomorah !
And someone slaps you one cheek offer him another? Then come and I give you 10 slaps every day, that’ll be 20 slaps so long as you offer me the other cheek, for one week, if you enjoyed it, then I’ll convert to your “Loving Religion”
And Atheism!
Atheism has brought about the total destruction who are the maker of guns, biological weapons, jet fighters, abortion, warships etc etc. Atheists’ claims the most lives and the destruction of the ozone layers….
Hinduism and Sikhism Peaceful Religions? Read your History mate!
PS: At the time of “Dark Ages” Muslims were at the peak of science & literature as well as architecture and the Western writers till this day profess this fact, and for this we have all the proofs available should you wish to acquire.
Thanks for your time & consideration
1st Naz, I suggest u differentiate between the old and new testaments. The christian god prior to Jesus did exhibit many questionable traits when we compare against what we are taught god is like now. Prior to Jesus, he used much more fear and punishment for not listening to his teachings. You talk of other religions, but have u ever honestly read and considered them? I don’t believe that a person can make informed choices about their faith without understanding why they favor one over another. Regardless of the faith, at least with monotheistic religions, it doesn’t matter cause I truly believe that God, or whatever one chooses to label the higher power, will guide a person to whatever religion will guide and help them the best. You can argue all u want but most religions are very similar, with different names for things. If anything it should b orthodox v non, in regard to most religions. The problem is that religion has been turned into a vehicle of power, w God secondary. Even in Islamic states, it is used as power. Just consider the wide range of practices considered Islamic and how it varies from say Morocco to Indonesia. Christianity is the same way. It depends how it was introduced to a society, what their previous beliefs were, and on many other variables. There is no universal agreement on interpretation of these divine writings, and that is another problem. Believe your religion is the best, as one should, but still b open minded so it is a true choice and not just convenient acceptance
For those open minded individuals; Islam teaches us similar things to Christianity and some of other faiths but why is Islam The Fastest Growing Religion in The World? Even if The West! Why?
1] Islam also teaches that human beings came from Adam and Eve but Islam says; Adam and Eve made a mistake and God Forgave them! So Both of them were sinful and Both of them were Forgiven, besides it doesn’t make sense that God will “Punish” the Who0le World for a couple of “FRUIT they ATE!! As this video [Ex-Christian, then Atheist and Now Muslim explains Quranic verses in details of Atheism e.g. “Why is there Evil in the World”? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifllgTA2pmY [purpose of Life by Jeffry Lang]
2] Non-Muslim Lady comedian: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Y2Or0LlO6g Lesley Hazleton: A “tourist” reads the Koran Explains the following & more in details: Equal Rights: Unlike many other Religions that specifically talks about men, Qur’an however includes women, e.g. Qur’an 33:35 says: “The submitting men, the submitting women, the believing men, the believing women, the obedient men, the obedient women, the truthful men, the truthful women, the steadfast men, the steadfast women, the reverent men, the reverent women, the charitable men, the charitable women, the fasting men, the fasting women, the chaste men, the chaste women, and the men who commemorate GOD frequently, and the commemorating women; GOD has prepared for them forgiveness and a great Reward”. Qur’an 3:195 “Their Lord responded to them: “I never fail to reward any worker among you for any work you do, be you male or female – you are equal to one another”. Qur’an 4:124 “As for those who lead a righteous life, male or female, while believing, they WILL enter Paradise; without the slightest injustice”.
Ex Atheist Hamza asks & then answers 4 Logical questions: Was Mohammad[SAW] a Liar? Was he Deluded? Was he Both Liar and Deluded? Was he Speaking The Truth? PROOF for non-Muslims!!!!!!>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoShExgPVdw Powerful Speech – Who Was Muhammad ﷺ – Response by Hamza Tzortzis ᴴᴰ
Now Decide where Truth lies, LOGICALLY!!
Some of the Elite Non-Muslims About Islam!
1. M.K. GANDHI: “….I became more than ever convinced that it was not the sword that won a place for Islam in those days in the scheme of life. It was the rigid simplicity, the utter self-effacement of the prophet, the scrupulous regard for his pledges, his intense devotion to his friends and followers, his intrepidity, his fearlessness, his absolute trust in God and in his own mission. These, and not the sword carried everything before them and surmounted every trouble.” YOUNG INDIA, 1924. (10)
2. EDWARD GIBBON: “The greatest success of Mohammad’s life was effected by sheer moral force without the stroke of a sword.” HISTORY OF THE SARACEN EMPIRE, London, 1870.
3. A.S. TRITTON: “The picture of the Muslim soldier advancing with a sword in one hand and the Qur’an in the other is quite false.” ISLAM, London, 1951, page 21. (12)
4. DE LACY O’LEARY: “History makes it clear, however, that the legend of fanatical Muslims, sweeping through the world and forcing Islam at the point of sword upon conquered races is one of the most fantastically absurd myths that historians have ever repeated.” ISLAM AT CROSSROADS, London, 1923, page 8.
5. K.S. RAMAKRISHNA RAO: “My problem to write this monograph is easier because we are not generally fed now on that (distorted) kind of history and much time need not be spent on pointing out our misrepresentations of Islam. The theory of Islam and sword, for instance, is not heard now in any quarter worth the name. The principle of Islam, there is no compulsion in religion, is well known.” MOHAMMED THE PROPHET OF ISLAM, Riyadh, 1989, page 4.
6. JAMES A MICHENER: “No other religion in history spread so rapidly as Islam… The West has widely believed that this surge of religion was made possible by the sword. But no modern scholar accepts that idea, and the Qur’an is explicit in support of the freedom conscience.” ISLAM – THE MISUNDERSTOOD RELIGION, READERS’ DIGEST (American Edition) May 1955.
7. LAWRENCE E. BROWNE: “Incidentally these well-established facts dispose of the idea so widely fostered in Christian writings that the Muslims, wherever they went, forced people to accept Islam at the point of the sword.” THE PROSPECTS OF ISLAM, London 1944. IF YOU TOO POSSESS A SOFT, TENDER HEART AND AN OPEN MIND, DO WRITE TO US FOR SOME BASIC INFORMATION ABOUT THE WAY OF LIFE CALLED “ISLAM.” DO NOT BELIEVE IN HEARSAY AND LEARN FROM THE DIRECT SOURCES. WE ARE READY TO HELP.
:AHMED HOLT: British Civil Contractor, traveler in search of the Divine truth, spent much of his time in research and comparative study of Judaism, Christianity and Islam. He embraced Islam in 1975. (2) “The SWORD OF ISLAM is not the sword of steel. I know this by experience, because the sword of Islam struck deep into my own heart. It didn’t bring death, but it brought a new life; it brought an awareness and it brought an awakening as to who am I and what am I and for what am I here?”
What we really need to do is to become literate, thinking adults, and to stop trying to find god in a book – any book. We need to stop believing what we have been told to believe and instead use our own eyes and our own minds to comprehend the reality that we all share.
We need to stop behaving like the Hatfields and the McCoys and simply stop the senseless, evil, cowardly killing of innocents. Either that or for those people who are intent on killing for one reason or another, just start with yourself, for you are the most deserving of death.
And if you are a muslim, fasten your seatbelt, your world just got even harder after the Boston Marathon incident.
Unfortunately, there really is no way to end religions – any attack on a religious person, either mentally or physically, will in general only make them believe even more strongly – this is completely stupid, of course, but believing in the religious works of the world is proclaiming yourself a non-thinking sheep anyway.
Religious people are without faith and without belief because they are merely borrowing some long dead persons beliefs and calling them their own.
The Truth has already come. He is a living God, Jesus is his name.
You guys are all wrong!!
I think that all religions have some violence. Some people interpret religion to justify their own violent actions. We have people here in America that kill their entire flock in the name of religion. So, it doesn’t really matter what religion you practice, there will be a small minority of believers that want to kill in the name of God. These people will always exist and all of us HUMANS need to be vigilant, honest, and open to recognize and prevent the actions of these extremists. What doesn’t make sense to me is the killing of non-muslims by radicalists that want everyone to have their beliefs, yet they kill people before giving them a chance to convert. If you kill everyone, who will be left to praise allah?
As the saying goes, you catch more flies with honey…
All forms of religion do horrible things. Lying for control and telling people they will go to hell for thinking for themselves. I dont mean to force my opinion on anyone but if you get through a struggle in your life or experience a “miracle” who do you have to thank for that? Yourself and the people around you. Same goes for the opposite. Sure it gives people hope that when they die they will be rewarded or whatever, but the fact is the only thing that religion has done for anyone is cause war, hate, and fear. Dont follow something because you were raised that way. The thing that makes us human is our curiosity. Ask questions about everything learn the facts before dedicating your life to something made up by people a long time ago to control. Dont ask your priest or whoever read a science book, i guarantee the universe only being 10,000 years will make no sense at all. The only way to unite as the human race is if we all educate ourselves the universe is 14 billion years old, earth is six billion, and in the six billion years the materials just happened to come together to create life and then it evolved. I know for a fact if a christian or catholic is reading this your first reaction will be defending what you think you know, but i will respond go do some research with an open mind.
“The prophetic 69 weeks amount to 69 units of 7 years each, or a total of 483 years.
Now all we must do is count. If we count from 455 B.C.E., 483 years takes us to the year 29 C.E. That was exactly the year when Jesus was baptized and became the Messiah!* (Luke 3:1, 2, 21, 22) Is that not a remarkable fulfillment of Bible prophecy?” – What does the bible really teach book by Jehovah’s witnesses. 7 years later or one week later the Messiah got impaled.
I definitely know that there is a god that created us. I also know that this god has no consiousness other than what we lend it. Its called the universe. You are made of it, completely. You are dirt, water and sunshine evolved to the point that you can look at yourself and say “I am dirt, water and sunshine!”.
Miracles aren’t done by prophets or jesus or any other spiritual sprite – the whole of our existence, every moment, every atom, is itself a miracle. That there is a here to exist on at all is a miracle. And if there happens to be a life after death, it would not be one iota more miraculous than the one you are living right now – both are completely improbable.
Just where do you think here actually is – when you travel far enough away from here, eventually the whole of reality washes up on a beach that doesn’t even exist.
You want to see god, open your eyes – everything you see is it.
All I can say to you…after every comment I have read. YOU GOT IT!!!!. Finally someone who makes perfect sense.
i dont believe in god. but what i believe is that , we need religion…to hold us togather..to stop us from doing bad..to go on the path of truth ..
and HINDUISAM do that perfectly…HINDUISAM is oldest and superfine…our religion tells us to love everyone…even non-hindus shud be loved…
hinduisam gives priority to science,politics, education and govornance…
just think my friends…INDIA was ruled by islams for 800 years and christans for 250 years…still hindus survived…the 3rd bigest religion…
i love every religion…even my gf is ISLAM…
dont hate anyone…spread love…dont commit crimes
I find the people of other faiths as well as Atheistd very irrational and emotional rather than using their brain. Most people seems to follow blindly what they believe and cannot even prove their case but quoting jumbo junk and expecting people to believe in it. Islam however is different, it believes in and encourages using intellect and come to the conclusion of it being the truth.
now people please put in sound arguments then ask questions rather than expecting people to believe in your quotes without proof.
thank you…
Why even mention Atheists? They are the group least likely to cause harm based on a Holy Book. For the most part, they just don’t want to be preached to. I really can’t think of an atrocity on the scale of the Crusades or 9/11 being committed in the name of Atheism.
What are the differences between Islam and Muslims or Muslims and Islam, not a THING, not even one iota.
Only a simple mind Koffer would approach this subject in this many.
Let use look at Christiany. One might suppose, that some one identifying themseleves as a Christian, woul;d be following the specific instruction of the Prophet (Isa) more commonly called Jesus, not so.
Who do the Christian follow? They follow a Man born as Saul of Tarsus, an individ Born born to Pious Jews, Who was and continued to be a Pious Jew during the course of his life. This man Saul, a Roman Police man made it a practice of terrorizing Gentiles (beating then, locking them up in prisonsd and yes killing them). Oh, I forgot, possibly you call yourself a Christian for some reason, but, you personally have never cracked a book, let along read the Bible. So I need to explain what the meaning Gentle is in the Jewis language. In the Jewish Language, the word Gentile is used as a means of identifying most people who are not jews (Koffers, Pagens, Christians, Buddhist, Hindu’s) got the idea? Then there are Arab’s, and Jews will turn the head, spit, and cuss the day of their birth. Then below that is Jesus (Isa), and Jews will turn the head, spit, and cuss the day of their birth. After years of terrorizing the Christians, Sauls whole came to an end. What does he do now, he changes his name to Paul, and starts the Pauline Christine Church. This is a man who has never saw Jesus (Isa) for one fleeting second in his life. Then he has a talk with his brother, a Roman Senate, and they develop a system of crowd control for the Pagans who at the time a rioting, looting and burning Rome. What was this new form of riot control called that have very few limitations,
allowed the to retain their rituals, and even incorporated “Sunday” (Pagans worshiped the Sun on Sunday).
Now lets bring this forward a few years, like to the present, where you have Christian’s being abducted, imprision, ate or killed, where we have Christian’s blowing up the US Government Federal Building in Oklahoma City killing 172 people, primarily Children, where we have a “Christian” military, that is going about RAPING the very Women serving it, where we have “Christian” Soldier’s performing Genocide, Murdering Civilian’s in Iraq, Afghanistan and everyother place they have been. Just check Japan for starters. Oh, and please donot forget your wonderful Christian President, who ordered the out and out Murder of American Citizens at the stroke of his pen, the same pen authorize the aerial bombing and rocketing by Prop & Jet Unmaned Aircraft of Civilians in African, in Iraq, in Afghanistan and elses where im sure. What do, what did these Christian aircraft do, the killed Women, Children and old men (78% effective) and the hit hit the intended enemy (what ever & who ever that was or is) (12% of the time.
I remind you, that earlier, I told you that Saul (aka Paul), writer of half of your new testiment, was Jewish, which their is nothing wrong with that in and of the comment. But, Paul made any number of trips back to Jeresalem over the years and where do you suppose the first place, the very first place that Paul would go was. Straight to the Temple, and was no temple, straight to the place serving as a Temple.
People lived on this earth for approximently 7-20 Centuries without Religion. The along about 4 Centuries ago, they talked themselves in to a need for religion, later find it. I point that I am making here is that after finding Religion, did thing get better as a Result of Religion, or have things spun completely out of control.
Today, we live in a Bankrupt Country, printing money as if it is going out of style, and are allow the President and the Country to Murder other Peoples in this World……all for what, your Religion.
Get a Grip folks, the found of the Muslim-Islam or Islam-Muslim religion state, it’s a written fact, that if you as a Muslim cannot find someone to associate with, find someone from the “People of the Book”. Translation – someone Jewish or Christian.
I am sure, that no Pious Jew, Christian or for matter of fact, chooses to associate with the likes of Terrorist, Guerrillas, or Enemy Combatants.
I also will report to you, that to be a Muslim, to be Identified with the likes of Terrorist, Guerrillas, or Enemy Combatants, a poistion or character that in and of it’s actions is in conflist with Islam…would place my actions out side of the character of a Muslin. Meaning…no TRUE Muslim would accept my behavior or me.
Now you are going to be drawn to ask, why the “Muslim’s” support Terrorist? Very good question, wish that I would have thought of it. Because we, as with Christians and Jews, are hum,an beings with all kind and manner of relation ships. Some Built on Family, some on Work, some during Religious attendance, and here is a problematic area because, just as I discribe the Christian’s problem(s), we too, have the problem of true Muslims or Islam (Quran & Bio of Muhammad (PBUH) and, watchout here it comes, “Cultural” Muslims or Islam, which may be a deravation, a completely different practice.
The Next time, you choose to discuss Religion, please invite me, I have reading the Torat (Torah), the Bible and most Certainly the Quran for a number of years.
The problem with any reading, is the comprehension part of it. Just because you read it, doesn’t mean you are properly interpreting it, This is how so many sub-divisions of Christianity popped up. All sects are reading and learning from the same book, but the interpretation varies wildly.
I haven’t had the time to read all these comments but I can assume that they continue for the most part, tossing blame from one religion to another. This religion promotes this and these people have done that. I am an agnostic but mostly I believe that there are larger problems in the world today than whose religion is true and whose has done the most wrong. I listen to debates amounts my family about political parties here in Canada and it is no different. These people have done this but those have done that and every 4 years we try to vote for the best of the worst, hoping for change and progress. (I also just want to insert here that I feel very lucky to live in a democratic country and have the right to vote, even if I have trouble finding a party or candidate worthy of the honour). As I get older, closer to raising a family and planning more seriously for my own future, I am starting to recognize that it seems people are mostly afraid difference, of people, places or ideas they don’t understand. If we are all different, how do we know with whom and where we belong, but that is the truth in the end. We are all different, no better and no worse than one another and though it’s harder to listen, understand and trust, it is the only way to any sort of resolution about anything. Whether you are fighting for religious freedom, women’s rights, fighting totalitarian governments for basic freedoms or tea-partiers for gay marriage rights, we need to stop fighting and start listening. I’m a graphic designer who took one sociology class in university, I am not trying to preach as any kind of authority on global issues. All I know is what I read, watch and hear. There are amazing things that make the different people and cultures on this planet so interesting and diverse but perhaps if we focussed on everything that make us the same we would see that we all share the same fears for the future of OUR children and OUR planet. No one person should be forced to subscribe to someone else’s idea of who they should be, who they should love or how they should live. Easier said than done of course.
Fuck Muslim/Islam. All it causes is pain and suffering in the world. Every day I see a new news story, in which people are tortured and killed, in the most horrific ways, burned alive, etc etc etc…. and I always know without doubt that the story will include the words either islam or mulsim – GUARANTEED!!!!! If you muslims out there really have a heart, and a brain, then you should come together and abolish your own religion because idiots are taking the teachings of it the wrong way and turning it into an evil and disgusting, cowardly, childish and abusive weapon against the peaceful civilized beings that also inhabit this earth. Do yourselves a favor and grow up and realize that your own islam needs to be wiped out for the good of mankind.
someone has commented that religions are the only ones that are involved in violence. my reply would be. ‘you think so!?’
who’s invading other countries? who’s dropping bombs that can destroy the whole town not just alleged rebels or terrorists? who was Hitler? who was mosileeny? were they Christian, Jew or Muslims,????
learn please before commenting. religious ppl are very good law abiding except a very few and it is religion that prevents ppl committing suicide. if you have no moral ground you’ll sleep with your sister. religions are various but ppl need to have dialogues that’s the answer not banning or bashing them! so please stop foolish comments you’ll only make fool of yourselves.
Thank you
religions aren’t violent, people are.
Atheism, Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism etc. … regardless of the claims the religious beliefs and religious books as well as atheism are based on illogical ideas rather mostly emotional than logical but Islam hoeever is based on reason and proof.
don’t take it from me but read Qur’an translation in your language or alternatively Google “what non Muslim scholars say about Islam ” and see what high ranking individuals, prominent scientists sd well as feminists have said about it. It’s a challenge!
Lucifer, satan, son of the morning, father of lies, the deceiver is certainly a subscriber to this page. I am sure he enjoys reading the arguments and rhetoric herein. Contention is of the devil. It is his fruit. We are all Heavenly Father’s children who wouldn’t even be here for satan to torture with his tactics if we hadn’t all in the pre-existence decided to follow our Father’s only begotten son, Jesus Christ and his plan of happiness, which was based on free agency. Satan wanted us to have no choice, but to follow all the commandments and doctrines that Heavenly Father gives us. This was how the war in heaven started and how satan and his followers who were a third of the hosts in heaven were banished to the earth as merely spirits and never obtaining bodies. Satan and his followers hate us and will do anything to manipulate and deceive us into not following Heavenly Father’s plan of happiness for all of us who kept that 1st estate of deciding to follow Jesus’s plan of free agency. Love everyone, even your enemies is what Jesus taught. The apostles were all murdered after Jesus was crucified, which is why there was so much confusion and chaos (crusades) after so much peace and light had been revealed during Jesus’s life. Thus the dark ages began…we now have light of the truthfulness of the divinity of Christ and his teachings again on the earth. I do not wish to argue, nor do I wish to see my faith bashed as I have seen one person do to the only other person of my faith that has commented here, so I will not reveal where my knowledge of the truthfulness of Christ’s gospel stems from, but I will bear my testimony of the peace and happiness that being a member of Christ’s church and living by his teachings has brought me. I know my Savior lives. I know he was crucified for my sins and resurrected 3 days later, so that we may all conquer death. I know that he bled from every pore in the Garden of Gethsamane as he felt the pain of all the sins he was taking upon him. I know that if I repent and turn my sins over to him I may someday with his grace live with him and Heavenly Father in that Celestial Kingdom someday. Peace to you all and God bless, no matter what religion or lack there of you proscribe to.
Religion is the primary cause of hared and suffering in the world, and of all the religions, the muslims are the ones has are causing the most suffering in the world. Where ever they are, in any place in the world, there is misery and suffering at their hands, and there always will be. With this undeniable fact to hand, most people find it extremely difficult to understand why anyone with any intelligence would want to be a part of such a religion. If you want to have faith, if you want to follow “god”, then find another, peaceful religion… or is it that their followers are brain washed into this from childhood, and are now trapped and unable to escape because they are afraid of others in this religion? We all know the answer to that” It is Yes.
ON the scale of 9/11? Why don’t you google greatest massacres of all time and wars of all time. Most of the carnage has been done by non-Muslims. The Muslim rulers who invaded India were exactly the same as the hypocritical companions of the prophet who later became Caliphs. Except for the his son-in-law, Ali Ibn Abi Taleb a.s, the fourth Caliph. The Crusaders perhaps were of the same caliber, and so are people like Bush, the Zionist neo-cons and the Saudi backed Takfiri terrorists who kill Shias, Sunnis and Christians. All these so called religionists have and are just using religion for their own profit. So the root cause for evil is not religion but ungodliness.
So much pointing fingers on this post. We, as Americans and as a global society, must not be ignorant of other cultures. Every practicing Muslim is not a terrorist. How many Muslims have come to America for the freedom to practice their religion? We are all in this country to freely enjoy our liberties of speech, expression, and worship. Let us not parade these liberties. We are blessed. I do believe it is God keeping us from calamity, but calamity can befall any nation. Let us not take our freedoms for granted. We ought to seek understanding for that which we don’t know. Love should be above all other things. All we have is our souls, so guard it wisely. Don’t let hate, fear, and religion enter your heart. In forgiveness there is power. I am a Christian. Jesus Christ has made himself real to me. By faith I chose to believe that he is the Son of God and by His blood I am forgiven of my sins, and that he rose again from the dead and now is in Heaven. The Bible also preaches submission to God. Any one can taint words of a book because it is the reader’s heart that deciphers the meaning. But there is always one message the author seeks to make clear. If one reads the Bible from hate, they will justify judging and condemning others, however, the Bible clearly identifies such thinking as sin. We are all on the same level; neither is above nor beneath and we all have fallen short of the glory of God. We came into a sinful world and our redeemer came to save our souls from Hell. IF we seek God with our whole hearts we find him. It is true. Jesus changed my life and my heart and I live for Him now. Please accept Jesus’s sacrifice for your sins; nothing is unforgivable. I hope in the coming years we will all be more open minded to empathize with and understand others instead of judging them.
Reasoning in Islam
God’s Existence= “..were they created by nothing, or were they the creators [of themselves]? Or did they create the heavens and the earth? (Qur’an 52:35-36), “How can you Not believe in Allah, when you were dead [none existent] and He gave you life [caused you to exist]. Then He will cause you to die, then He will bring you to life, then to Him will be your return.” (2: 28)
“if they embark on a ship, they call on Allah, making their devotion sincerely (exclusively) to Him; but when He delivers them safely to land, behold, they give a share of their worship to others!” (Qur’an 29:65)
Qur’an 2:11: “And when it is said to them, Do not make mischief in the land, they say: We are the peace-makers”
“When harm occurs to you at sea, those [men & idols] you call upon vanish – except for Him [God] alone! But when He delivers you to dry land, you turn away.….” (17:67-68
Revelation= Preservation = [No: 1] “Indeed it is We [God] Who have sent down the Dhikr [Qur’an], and it is We who will preserve it [guard it from corruption]” [Same Qur’an in Original Arabic from more than 1400 years, millions of people have memorized it in different parts of the world even many being small children & of many Arabic not even being their language! so no loss to the text for over 1400 years even by the dot let alone word or a sentence.
Scientific phenomena/miracles/Facts: including embryology, The ‘Big Bang’ , etc… Some people allege that prophet Mohammad copied from their religious books regarding the scientific verses but they fail to realise that had this been the case, why then is there not a single scientific error in the Qur’an? Given that these other religious texts contain numerous scientific errors, how could Mohammad (pbuh) have known which parts were scientifically accurate and which were not? Thus these allegations are illogical! In fact God admonishes their false claims in the following Qur’anic verse 2:79 ” Woe to those who write the book with their own hands, and then say: This is form Allah, to traffic with it a miserable price! Woe to them for what their hands do write and woe to them for what they earn!”
Historical Facts: = Amongst many one being preservation of the body of pharaoh, which we refer to as mummy of Merneptah that Dr. Maurice Bucaille has unveiled in detail in his book called: “The Quran and Modern Science” [All these books are available on request from http://www.idci.co.uk , http://www.iERA.org.uk , http://www.thedeenshow.com & irf.net + peace tv sky channel 820
Prophethood = Proof of Prophethood: 4 Logical Arguments or Options [Was Mohammad, upon whom be peace] A liar? Delude? Both (Liar & Delude)? Or was he Speaking the truth?
Question No: 1] Was he [Prophet Mohammad upon whom be peace]
A Liar? Answer = Prophet Mohammad (peace be upon him) could Not be a liar because
[1] even his enemies at the time/The non-Muslims of his time used to call him al-Amin (the trustworthy) & as-Siddiq (meaning the truthful) as Mohammad [peace be upon him] would keep their trust, their secret even when they wanted to assassinate him due to their hatred for Islam
[2] He was not after money or fame as he was offered the wealth of the Arabs at the time and women & was offered a kingdom on the condition that he abandons his mission to promote Islam. He refused & responded by saying “by Allah, if you place the sun in my right hand & the moon in my left hand, I will never give up this message until I perish therein”.
Question No: 2] Was he [Mohammad upon whom be peace]
deluded? Answer= There was a solar Eclipse the day his son (named Ibrahim) died & people were saying look the day is being darkened due to respect for the son of the Prophet but. Instead of using this situation to promote himself or elevate his status with the people he instead said while pointing up to the sky “This is the sun and this is the moon, they’re from the signs of Allah, & they do not rise or set or eclipse for the death or birth of any man, so when you see this, pray to your Lord” & he taught us the prayer of the eclipse. So he could Not have been Deluded. Because a deluded person will use any opportunity to justify his/her cause i.e. “see I told you so!!”
Question No: 3]
Was he both liar & deluded? Answer = This a Logical contradiction. It is like square triangle, a square has 4 sides & triangle has 3. It is like confusing or rationalising Monotheism with Multiple gods yet calling it “One God”!
Question 4] Was he [Mohammad, upon whom be peace]
speaking the truth? Answer = This is Logically, Rationally & Reasonably the only plausible option as he [Mohammad upon whom be peace] WAS SPEAKING THE TRUTH. Even The Book [Qur’an that was given to him confirms this fact as) If Prophet Mohammad (God-Forbid) was the author of Qur’an, how come the Qur’an is promoting/elevating other prophets like Adam, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph, Moses & Jesus (peace be upon them) instead of himself? Why would Prophet Mohammad say that the mother of Jesus (Virgin Mary (peace be upon her)) was the chosen woman above all nations? If he was the author, surely he would have chosen his own mother, wife or any Arab woman. Why did he mention a Jewess? And why would he say that The Children of Israel [The Jewish Community] were chosen people at one stage instead of the Arabs or his native Quraysh Tribe? And even being unlettered/illiterate in schooling, he produced the most amazing fruitful society that many prominent & elite Eastern & Western writers have praised his achievements.
Facts: Glorious Qur’an is unchanged Book of God wherein “..there is no doubt” Qur’an 2:1 & Again Qur’an has no contradictions/Doubts, Crookedness, Discrepancies of any kind: “Do they not consider Qur’an with care, had it been from anyone besides God, there would have been many contradictions in it.” 4:82. Qur’an is the Book of facts: “Say; the Truth has come and falsehood perished. For falsehood is by its nature bound to perish” 17:81. The Qur’an has enough ‘Proof’ to satisfy a commoner as well as an elite Scientist… The Glorious Qur’an has been memorized entirely cover to cover, word by word in its original Arabic language by millions of people (Muslims) even many being small children around the World despite most of them not even being Arabs!!
Forgiveness of sin simples: “‘O My servants who have transgressed greatly against themselves through sins! Do not despair of the Mercy of Allah. Indeed Allah forgives all sins to those who repent. Indeed He is the Oft-Forgiving, the Most Merciful.” Soorah az-Zumar (39):54, “Allah does not forgive that anything is associated in worship with Him, but He forgives whatever is lesser than shirk to whomever He pleases.” Soorah an-Nisaa (4): 48, But if one repents from Shirk whilst alive [before death] then even that is forgiven]…but there is no such a thing as ‘Original Sin’ in Islam as everyone is liable for their own actions not that Adam & Eve eating a couple of fruits & Whole World being somehow responsible for is not reasonably plausible.
Engagement/Dialogue: Qur’an urges Muslims to preach but not force their religion on anybody: “Say: O people of the Book! Come to common terms as between us and you: That we worship none but Allah (God); that we associate no partners with Him; That we raise not among ourselves, lords and patrons other than Allah! If they turn back, say; ‘you bear witness that we are Muslims (meaning we bow to the Will of God)” Quran 3:64
“If there were, in the heavens and the earth, other gods besides Allah, there would have been confusion in both! But Glory be to Allah, the Lord of the Throne: (High is He) above what they attribute to Him!” 21:22
Islamic Theology & certain basic beliefs
Prepare for the next life: [“Every soul shall have a taste of death: And only on the Day of Judgment shall you be paid your full recompense. Only he who is saved from the Fire and admitted to the Garden will have attained the object (of Life): For the life of this world is but goods and chattels of deception.” [Quran 3:185],”This day I have perfected your religion for you, completed My favour upon You, and have chosen for you Islam as your religion.”(Qur’an. 5:3), “Say (O Muslims): we believe in Allah and that which is revealed to us and that which was revealed to Abraham and Ishmael, and Isaac and Jacob, and their children, and that which Moses and Jesus received and that the prophets received from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them and unto Him we have surrendered.” (2:136), “And they will say:”Had we but listened or used our intelligence, we would not (now) be among the Companions of the Blazing Fire!” (Quran 67:10), “If anyone desires a religion other than Islam (submission to God), never will it be accepted of him; and in the Hereafter He will be of the losers” Qur’an 3:85.
Basic Beliefs [Tawheed]: Tawheed in Islam Tawheed is of 3 types: [1] Belief in One God Who being out Creator, Sustainer is called Tawheed-Ar Rabbobya [which generally people of all religions accept but. The problem is with the following 2>>> [2] Tawheed- Oluhya means to Worship God Alone without intermediaries & without ascribing or attributing partners or human qualities to God [3] Tawheed- Asma Wa Siffat means God’s Blessed Names and Attributes Which are Unique to Him.
(Even Satan believes in One God, but is that enough? NO; we should worship Him on His terms)
5 Pillars: [1] Belief in One God [see Tawheed Above] & Prophet Mohammad being His servant and Final Messenger, [2] Praying 5 times a day [daily], [3] Giving Zakah [Charity/Alms-giving] [4] fasting in the Month of Ramadhan [5] Hajj/Pilgrimage to Makkah [if one can afford it with halal money]
6 Articles of faith: [1] Belief of Allah [see Tawheed above]] [2] in Angels (Angles are creation & servants of God who do not disobey God who also will die like the rest of the creation as only God Alone Never dies) [3] in His [God’s] Books [4] in His Messengers [5] in The Last Day [Day of Judgment] [6] Qadr or Predestiny [e.g. Whatever good or bad is faced by individuals are known to God & whoever enters Paradise is by His Mercy/Grace & whoever enters Hell-Fire is due to His Justice]
Islam is completely against Racism, Nationalism & Sectarianism: [Qur’an 49:13 “O mankind, indeed We [God] have created you from [a single pair of] male and female and made you into nations and tribes that you may know one another. Indeed, the most noble of you in the sight of Allah is the most righteous of you. Indeed, Allah is Knowing and Acquainted”], [And Prophet Mohammad[peace be upon him] has completely prohibited Racism & Nationalism in many sound ahadith.
[Qur’an 6:159 “those who divide their religion and break up into sects, you, [O Muhammad], have nothing to do with them [in the least…”] [[there are Fiqh (Jurisprudence of Scholars who don’t contradict Qur’an & Authentic teachings of Prophet Mohammed [peace be upon him] are not sects but scholars understanding the Ahadith & its applications according to how the companions of Prophet Mohammad [Peace be upon him] understood it. And no forced conversion is allowed: [“there is no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from Error…” Qur’an 2:256)],
Original Sin? The Qur’an says “NO”
Many places in the Qur’an Adam & Eve [Both, Not just Eve] have made a mistake [sinned], Qur’an refers to it as “slip” [Qur’an 2:36] a mere mistake and they both asked forgiveness and God forgave them Both besides it is illogical that God will punish the Whole World for Adam & Eve’s sin and besides all they did was ate a couple of fruit!
• Both Adam and Eve disobeyed God, and not only Eve. • Both Adam and Eve admitted their sin, repented, asked God for forgiveness. God accepted their repentance and forgave them (Quran Ch2 V.34-38)
• No one of Adam and Eve’s descendants will be punished by Adam and Eve’s sin. Everyone will be judged only on their own beliefs, deeds, and conduct.
• You are responsible for yourself in front of God the Creator on the Last Day [Day of Judgment]. No one, except God the Creator, can forgive you and accept you in His paradise per His mercy. There is No saviour except God
No excesses: In Islam, Muslims are not allowed to beat around the bush e.g. Even at the time of Prophet Mohammad, the non-Muslims would come to him with their idols & say: “Why don’t you worship our gods for a time & we will worship yours’ [Allah] for a time” [or play games like you scratch my back & I scratch yours’ or just make way around it like some halal for me but haraam for others or vice-versa] but Allah revealed the following verses of chapter 109: In the Name of Allah, the Most Beneficent, the Most Merciful. “Say: “O’ you who disbelieve! “I will not worship that which you worship, “Neither will you worship That Which I worship. “Nor will I worship that which you have been worshipping, “Neither will you worship That Which I worship. “To you your religion and to me mine.” This is enough that we will tolerate each other but I won’t make fun of my religion by celebrating paganism when Truth has been manifest to us. As Prophet Mohammad even prayed Salah even the day he died so no compromise in following the religion to the fill. Yes, in Islam there is No Extremism in any form even adding some things to the rituals or deducting things from it as well as harming one’s own self & harming others as that is completely prohibited.
Footnote: The word He or His used above for God is not gender-based but rather (Huwa: He) an Arabic expression of honour. As even the word mankind in English language does not mean only men but it’s a generic term…The word We (Nahno or Khalaqna) used for God is not a term of plurality but rather represents the royal style of respect when referring to oneself like when a king or queen addresses their people e.g.” we have decreed so & so…”
NB: God is Not a man neither God manifest Himself in His creation nor dwells in His creation as that would certainly mean He also requires to face the death which is illogical as the Creator is never to become a creation as if one makes a VCR does he need to become a VCR? But rather to operate the VCR, he merely writes an instruction manual thus the instruction manual for human beings is the Final, unchanged Book of God “The Quran” and to follow it practically is by following the example of the final prophet [Quran 3:31] to whom the Quran was given [Mohammad] which are separately compiled, authenticated by & are in Sahih Bukhari, Sahih Muslim [and few more…]
6 of the Last options in dealing with misconceptions or Questions
[1] Unlike other Religions & Philosophies that are named after its founders, peoples & places, Islam however is NOT Mohammadanism nor was Prophet Mohammad the founder of Islam as he who worships Prophet Mohammad leaves Islam. Prophet Mohammad is the Final Prophet & Last Messenger of God as Islam means ‘sincere submission to the will of Allah/God [Creator] & Muslim is one who has submitted to the will of God. Hence even prophet Mohammad [pbuh] himself urged Muslims not to praise him too much [Bukhari Kitab Bida-il Khalaq H:262,Tirmidhi 46:313:H:01, Tirmidhi 46:318:Hadith6] yet love him more than our own families [Bukhari Volume 001, Book 002, Hadith Number 014, Bukhari Volume 001, Book 002, Hadith Number 015, Bukhari Volume 008, Book 078, Hadith Number 628.]
[2] Do Muslims worship ‘Kabba’ or so-called black box in Arabia? The Answer is obviously “No” as that is only a direction which prevents Muslims arguing which direction to face when praying, North, West, East or South? So for direction which is “one” that is facing towards ‘Kabba’
[3] Why is there Evil in The World?
Qur’an 2:30-33: “Behold; when your Lord said to the Angels: “I am going to place a representative on Earth.” They said: “Will You place therein one who will spread Evil and shed blood? While we hymn Your praise and glorify You?” He said: “I know something what you do not know”. He taught Adam all the names, then presented them to the angels, saying, “Give Me the names of these, if you are right.” They said, “Be You glorified, we have no knowledge, except that which You have taught us. You are the Omniscient, Most Wise.” He said, “O Adam, tell them their names.” When he told them their names, He said, “Did I not tell you that I know the secrets of the heavens and the earth? I know what you declare, and what you conceal.”
Qur’an 2:11: “And when it is said to them, Do not make mischief in the land, they say: We are the peace-makers”
See how God created us? He gave us more knowledge than the angles, yet it is the angles who serve Him more than us, who worships Him more than us who never disobey Him. And notice that mankind was created to be placed on earth as viceroy not to remain in heaven but down to earth as test [not as punishment] and if successful then back to paradise including all his progenies] Still why is there evil? God created us to stop the evil instead of blaming God. When good happens to us we say it’s our own achievements but when we face a test or a trial we’re put through then it’s all God’s fault?
This Life is a mere Test [Hardships even for Believers]: “Do people think they will be left alone after saying ‘We believe’ without being put to the test? We had tested those who went before them, so that Allah would distinguish those who are truthful and those who are liars.” (Qur’an 29:3)
“Did you think that We had created you in play (without any purpose), and that you would not be brought back to Us?” (23:115)
Purpose of Life: “And I [God] did not create the jinn and mankind except to worship Me.” (Qur’an 51:56) God does Not need us but rather we need Him: “And whosoever strives, he strives only for himself. Verily, Allah is free of all wants from the ‘Alamin (mankind, jinns, and all that exists)” Quran 29:6
“We [God] shall show them Our signs in the Farthest of the horizon and within themselves until it is clear to them that this is the truth. Is it not enough that your Lord is witness over all things?” (41:53
(4) Forced Marriages & So-called Honour Killings: Forced marriages are completely prohibited in Islam [Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 69, Nisaa’i, 3217] And the examples are clear from Ahadith above that Prophet Mohammad [pbuh] prohibited forced marriages and There is NO such a thing as honour killing in Islam. There is no honour in killing! These medieval practices have unfortunately being attributed to Islam which are totally un-Islamic and hence an example for you [the reader] will be that; “if someone buys a brand new top of the range Mercedes car and he does not know how to drive and he bangs up the car, who will you blame; the driver or the car? But obviously the driver as he does not know how to drive similarly one who claims to be Muslim yet he or she does things which are alien to Islam then you should do your own investigation that Islam being such a rational religion that encourages using of intellect and yet someone has done something opposite that so let me see how true that is…….
(5) Vegetarian or meat eating [esp. Halal]: For detailed information on this topic please watch the heated debate between Dr Zakir Naik [Muslim Speaker] and Rashmibhai Zaveri [Vegetarian Society President India] called: “is non vegetarian food permitted or prohibited for a human being?” [Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUmcbg92u0w&feature=related ]but briefly; [1] A Muslim can be a very good Muslim even by being a pure vegetarian. But since the Creator has given us both the herbivorous and the carnivorous teeth to being able to digest both meat and vegetables, it will be illogical to miss out on food that we can eat and digest. And [2] it is scientifically proven that plants can also feel pain, they can even cry but if due to the fact that we human beings cannot hear their cry does not justify us cutting them in the expense of saving the cattle, and to feed the cattle and human beings only on grass [or vegetables] one has to have enough resources and transportation which does not seem possible in the least bit. [3] And the cattle don’t have the understanding of family planning; there will be over population of cattle, who will care for them, the RSPCA? [4] Some individuals allege that meat eating makes one barbaric, if it is so, at least we [Muslims] eat goats, cows, chickens etc [i.e. the non violent animals as we are peace loving people [5] Some individuals allege that eating vegetables is more healthy or healthier than meat eating which can easily be disproved by checking the “Guinness Book of World Records” and witness that almost all sports men and women [e.g. “The Healthy People”] are meat eaters! [6] Islamic method of slaughter [here in the U.K is the HMC or Halal Monitoring Committee approved] is the most humane and unharmful to the animal [for more details please watch the video/debate above]
[6] Polygamy: This misconception that Muslims are generally polygamous is untrue as Qur’an is The Only Religious Book that says “Marry Only One” [Please watch Misconceptions about Islam by Dr Zakir Naik for full detail Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kn8dzCx2Uqw%5D
Monk or practically following the Religion? Being like a monk is also not allowed in Islam is one has to work, get involved in daily activities such as shopping, exercise etc etc… Bukahri V: 7, Bk 62,H: 1:
PS: The Challenge: The Glorious Qur’an challenges all humankind (with easy but stern challenge) to try produce just a chapter somewhat similar like unto Qur’an (“And if you are in doubt as to that which We have revealed to Our servant (Prophet Mohammad), then produce one chapter somewhat like it (min mithlihi) and call on your witnesses besides God if you are truthful. But if you cannot do it and for a surety you can NOT do it, then be prepared for the Fire (of Hell) whose fuel is men and stones it is prepared for the unbelievers!!” Qur’an 2:23-24…
Justice: “O you who believe, be persistently standing firm for Allah , witnesses in justice, and do not let the hatred of a people prevent you from being just…” (5:8),
“Allah commands you to give back the trusts to their rightful owners, and when you judge between people, judge with fairness…”(4:58),
“O you who believe, be persistently standing firm in justice, witnesses for Allah , even if it be against yourselves or parents and relatives. Whether one is rich or poor, Allah is more worthy of both. So follow not [personal] inclination, lest you not be just. And if you distort [your testimony] or refuse [to give it], then indeed Allah is ever Acquainted, with what you do.”(4:135),
“Indeed, Allah orders justice and good conduct and giving to relatives and forbids immorality and bad conduct and oppression…”16:90.
All these good conduct, honesty, being kind to peoples, parents, next of kin, avoiding evil are all forms of worship as Islam is a way of life not just a religion and one of the most important worship is direct connection with God via Salah [5 daily prayers] which is not a burden but a privilege that provides lofty places with God & the feeling is truly to be experienced by oneself as its just over whelming, amazing & is truly setting one free from the shackles of hardship in daily life besides total time consumed on 5 daily Salah may cost 25 minutes which is very unfair that we cannot even give 25 minutes out of 24 hours to God! Equal Rights: Unlike many other Religions that specifically addresses men, Qur’an however includes women, e.g. Qur’an 33:35 says: “The submitting men, the submitting women, the believing men, the believing women, the obedient men, the obedient women, the truthful men, the truthful women, the steadfast men, the steadfast women, the reverent men, the reverent women, the charitable men, the charitable women, the fasting men, the fasting women, the chaste men, the chaste women, and the men who commemorate GOD frequently, and the commemorating women; GOD has prepared for them forgiveness and a great Reward”.
Qur’an 3:195 “Their Lord responded to them: “I never fail to reward any worker among you for any work you do, be you male or female – you are equal to one another”.
Qur’an 4:124 “As for those who lead a righteous life, male or female, while believing, they WILL enter Paradise; without the slightest injustice”.
Concept of God: “Say: He is Allah, The One. Allah, The Absolute, Eternal. He Begets Not, nor is Begotten. And there is Nothing like unto Him.” 112:4.
Please feel free to watch “Women rights in Islam” by Dr Zakir Naik as well as by Abdur Rahim Green on http://www.youtube.com as well as Lesley Hazleton Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Y2Or0LlO6g%5D and “Misconceptions about Islam” by Dr Zakir Naik [link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kn8dzCx2Uqw
PSS: we should avoid superstitions, religious innovations including silly things such as number 13 being unlucky, 666 being devil related or ideas of 786 being Islamic, or power in precious stones, stars relating to luck etc, talismans, grave worship & shrines, music, fornication/adultery & things leading to such as these are nothing but works of the devil diverting servants from the pure worship of their Creator {though if these sins have been committed then know that God is oft-Forgiving, Merciful according to Islam, thus we should ask His forgiveness prior to death}>> but, if one considers God becoming or being a man, an idol etc then you have disqualified that being of being God as The Creator of this vast Universe cannot be like His creation neither is He everywhere as had He being part of His creation, He No longer will live as His creaTION is bound to die hence The Ever-Living God will become mortal which is illogical and does NOT suit His Majesty. .. One can embrace Islam easily simply by uttering the following words (preferable before 2 witnesses): there is but One God Who Alone deserves to be worshipped & that Mohammad is His Slave & Final Messenger [in Arabic: Ash Hado AnLa iLaHa iLa Allah wah Daho La Shareeka Lahu Wa Ash Hado Anna Mohammadan Abdoho Wa RASOOLOHO]
Thank you for your time & consideration.
God will judge every single person on earth, and He will ask you if you were saved by the Blood of Jesus, or not. God WILL cast those that were NOT SAVED in Hell forever.
Hi Michelle,
And what about those who came before Jesus christ, are they all going to hell fire?. why would God wants to punish his beloved son (Jesus) in order to save humanity?. Hope you don’t take it as offence and please throw your light on above two questions.
Thanks.
Hi Mohamed,
I’m not Michelle, but maybe I can offer a (North American, Protestant) Christian perspective on some of your questions.
“And what about those who came before Jesus christ, are they all going to hell fire?”
Jesus mentions in one of his parables (Luke 16:19-31 if you want to look it up) a poor man being taken to heaven and reclining at Abraham’s side. This seems to imply that righteous people from before the time of Jesus can enter heaven. Christians agree that Jesus died once to redeem everyone for all time, but there’s some difference of opinion is on how exactly that worked. Some believe that after being crucified Jesus “descended into Hades” in order to open the gates of heaven to the righteous people who were waiting there. (Hades – in Hebrew “Sheol” – is believed to be the destination of all the dead until judgment day.) This is, I think, the mainstream Catholic view. Others say that since Jesus is the complete revelation of God who was revealed partly through the prophets, in a sense people back in the day already knew Jesus because the Spirit of God spoke to them. I’m no scholar, so I won’t try to tell you which interpretation is correct – this point is highly controversial even within the Christian community. Given humanity’s track record in understanding God so far, my guess would be that neither is completely right, but there it is.
To understand the Christian view of this issue better it’s important to keep in mind that we believe Jesus is God, that they are one and the same, so in a sense there is no one who “came before.” I think the reason we call the time after Jesus’s physical life on Earth the “New Testament” is because it represents a new way of relating to God, replacing the old law of Moses that none of us were able to follow correctly. It doesn’t mean the people under the old law were less righteous for trying to keep it (because they didn’t have any other way) but rather that no human being was or will ever be good enough to be acceptable to God. This leads right into your second question…
“Why would God want to punish his beloved son (Jesus) in order to save humanity?”
I was taught that Jesus is God’s earthly incarnation “acting in the role of a son” in order to show mankind how it ought to be done. (Certainly NOT the sexual offspring of God and Mary – that view is heretical!) In other words, He took on human form and followed the law perfectly, then offered Himself as a sacrifice in place of sinful humanity. It’s not so much that God “wanted” to punish Jesus as that His justice demands an accounting for disobedience/sin. In the old days the Israelites offered animal sacrifices as a temporary measure, both to make people aware of the deadly consequences of sin, and to foreshadow the sacrifice of Christ. (We can’t overlook the very real economic penance of such a sacrifice in an agricultural economy, but I’m not sure that was the main goal.)
But this universe is temporary. To save us from the wrath of God forever, only a perfect sacrifice would suffice. All humans are imperfect. Animals, even if they don’t sin, are only created beings too. And so God offered the only perfect, infinite, immortal being in existence. Himself.
He didn’t have to. God would still be good if He let us all burn. But here’s the core of Christan belief: because he loves us, God, as Jesus, submitted willingly to the most horrible death imaginable. In John chapter 10 he says, “I lay down my life—only to take it up again. No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again.” That’s one reason the resurrection is so important to us. It shows that God is loving enough to face death for us and powerful enough to conquer it forever.
More info here: http://www.gotquestions.org/human-sacrifice.html (That’s not my site, and I don’t agree with all their views, but I found that particular article informative.)
Apologies for the essay, but I hope this will clarify our perspective for you a little.
And what about those who came before Jesus christ, are they all going to hell fire?. why would God wants to punish his beloved son (Jesus) in order to save humanity?. Hope you don’t take it as offence and please throw your light on above two questions.
Thanks.
all religions are mans attempt to be reconciled with GOD…
all religious men and women want to be loved and forgiven and accepted by their GOD
there are 2 ways to do this…
1 become the best person you can be..in thought, action, deed, purpose and heart, soul , spirit , and mind
2 let GOD forgive you
the first way is mans attempt to climb to GODs standard…
the second way is to let GOD climb down and pick you up…
every religion has rules and standards and requirements to be approved by the COURT of GOD..a judgement of your works thoughts and deeds..even the koran says no mans actions are good enough for GOD
so you can spend your life WORKING and hoping you get to heaven
or you can accept the FREE gift of salvation and be free of crazy rules
your choice
most from every religion, choose the hard works route of perfection
I am a 23 year old who has struggled with faith my whole life. I have been taking steps toward becoming a better Christian to live a more fulfilled life. I just have a few points I want to say:
-There are so many religions in this world and who is to say that one is right and all others are wrong? I would argue that most people follow their current religion due to their environment. Depending on what country they’re from, what they’re parents believed etc. I didn’t grow up with religion, but because I am from America, and the most common religion that I hear about is Christianity, that is the religion I have chosen to explore. To each is their own, and who are we to judge others? I don’t believe there is one “right” person in this world. The fact is that no one knows and that is the mystery of life. But having faith and believing in a higher power will help you live a good and fulfilled life. Call me a skeptic or realist if you will.
-I think it is important to believe in a higher power whether that be God or whoever. I am not one to take the bible literally, because to me a person wrote this book and how does that make it fact? I believe that the bible has great teachings and lessons on how to be a good person and do right. I am still able to go to church and take my own meaning from the scriptures in the bible.
I enjoyed reading peoples posts, and would like to explore other religions because I find them all very fascinating.
theres no difference
if you are a muslim
you are islamic
if you believe in islam
you are muslimic
this is such double speak, can you all not see that Muslims ARE islamists- they are at war with you IE anyone not a muslim or islamist! good luck they will kill all of you infidels as soon as they can! or you can defend yourselves your choice – I am going to defend myself bon chance liberal idiot and do gooder
dear naz ali, every one knows God is one and all others are nice/great personalities who sacrificed their lives for the betterment of others whether prophet mohammad, paigamber(paigaam- e- ambar means message of God), jesus, budda(bodh is accurate/actual word–actually he got bodh(understood) that by just starving and giving pain to body is not enough to get deep knowledge about God), or some other great personalities/saints. there is word Aalaah in Hindustan means pious voice related to/from sky. in every religion pious sounds comes from sky/God to preach through great saints like jesus, Mohammed, etc. they act on behalf of God and are not God themselves but messengers of God. Every one stress on humanity. By the way, has Moslem (in Iraq) anything to do with word muslim?
Beard is mainly kept by saints (and not by everyone)–A saint should have beard and long hair(not to cut hair) or should be clean shaved including head; it is just not to care for personality building and has no concern with religion same like body of saints are not burnt to show respect but now every muslim and christian has related it with religion while purpose was then to feed the underground creatures. in desert areas of asia and africa where even camels die because of non availability of water the body of dead animals and human beings are thrown in open and claims to do so to feed the birds. Actually, the people of these countries live hard life and thus are savaged and do not follow/practice the real purpose/understand the true meaning of preaches and claims to be hardcore followers. They just want to spread their local/regional cultural and traditional practices (cultural attack)and not actual teachings; it has nothing to do with service to humanity.
Dear kailash, I don’t think you understand the concept of God or worship or purpose of life.
In, Islam; it’s not like general which generally everybody believes in One God, e.g. Christians say God is One [even though they believe in Trinity], Hindu say God is One [even though they use idols as gods or intermediaries] etc etc, but what’s is the Difference Between Islam and them?
[1] In Islam, It’s not just belief in One God and then live as you please and just be good to people for the sake of it because it’s NOT the people who gave you life, eye sight, body parts that are far greater than the most sophisticated computer on the Planet! it’s God who gave you so what’s the purpose of life?
[1] Belief in One God, who is one who sustains and gives life and death [generally everyone belies in One God but the problem for them is the other (following) two/2]
[2] Worship Him alone without intermediaries or ascribing partners or rivals to Him or intercessors of any kind! Because He created you without intermediaries so why now He needs intermediaries? {{{Moses, Jesus and Mohammad [peace be upon them all] ALL being Messengers of God but non of them is Divine otherwise you disqualify God of being God. }}}
[3] His [God’s] Blessed Names and Attributes which are Unique & exclusive to Him
So if someone gives you millions of pounds or dollars, will you give your 2 eyes? = of course NOT because what are you gonna do with the money if you’re Blind? And so if God gave you them eyes then look what God says not Urdu poetry of paighamber etc, and see what really is the reality in the Islamic perspective in the light of Qur’an and authentic teachings of prophet Mohammad[peace be upon him] and see how can it benefit me and see if it makes sense to me .
Now, the purpose of life is to worship God without intermediates, though God does not need us but it is our best interest to serve Him and avoid worshiping men and idols.
For further information, please comment below… Thank you
PS: please also read the below article:
Amongst many; few statements selected from some of the most prominent personalities of the World about Islam:
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Adam Smith; The 18th Century founder of modern economics, whose picture is printed on the current UK £20 note, was exceedingly inspired by the Islamic method of governing. He proclaimed that:”…the empire of the Caliphs seems to have been the first state under which the world enjoyed that degree of tranquility which the cultivation of the sciences requires. It was under the protection of those generous and magnificent princes, that the ancient philosophy and astronomy of the Greeks were restored and established in the East; that tranquility, which their mild, just and religious government diffused over their vast empire, revived the curiosity of mankind, to inquire into the connecting principles of nature.” * * Adam Smith, ‘History of Astronomy’, The Essays of Adam Smith (London, 1869), p. 353
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Malcolm X; [Regarding Hajj/Muslim Pilgrimage to Makkah] “…During the past eleven days here in the Muslim world, I have eaten from the same plate, drunk from the same glass, and slept in the same bed (or on the same rug)–while praying to the same God–with fellow Muslims, whose eyes were the bluest of blue, whose hair was the blondest of blond, and whose skin was the whitest of white. And in the words and in the actions in the deeds of the ‘white’ Muslims, I felt the same sincerity that I felt among the black African Muslims of Nigeria, Sudan, and Ghana….” —— M.K. Gandhi YOUNG INDIA, 1924; “…I became more than ever convinced that it was not the sword that won a place for Islam in those days in the scheme of life. It was the rigid simplicity, the utter self-effacement of the prophet, the scrupulous regard for his pledges, his intense devotion to his friends and followers, his intrepidity, his fearlessness, his absolute trust in God and his own mission. These, and not the sword carried everything before them and surmounted every trouble.” YOUNG INDIA, 1924 ——
Among many Jewish Historians;, Uri Avnery, has praised Islamic state for its protecting the non Muslim minority saying: “Muslim Spain was Paradise for the Jews…”. Even Zion Zohar writes in Sephardic & Mizrahi Jewry, New York, 2005, P. 8-9. “Thus, when Muslims crossed the straits of Gibraltar from North Africa in 711 CE and invaded the Iberian Peninsula, Jews welcomed them as liberators from Christian Persecution.” …….. (As Qur’an says: “Permission (to defend) is given to those upon whom war is made because they are oppressed, and most surely Allah is well able to assist them. Those who have been expelled from their homes without a just cause except that they say: Our Lord is Allah. And had there not been Allah’s repelling some people by others, certainly churches and synagogues and mosques in which Allah’s name is much remembered; would have been destroyed…” Quran 22:39-41)
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Arthur Stanley Tritton “The Arabs, to who God gave the dominion over the world, behave to us as you know. They are not hostile to Christianity, but praise our religion, honour priests and saints, and help the Churches and Monasteries.” Caliph and their non-Muslim subjects: A critical study of the covenant of Umar. A. S. Tritton. Routledge Library Editions: Islam. 2008, p. 138-139 —–
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Harvard University Quranic verse posted by the faculty of law, which described it as “one of the greatest expressions for justice in history”
“O you who believe, be persistently standing firm in justice, witnesses for Allah, even if it be against yourselves or parents and relatives. Whether one is rich or poor, Allah is more worthy of both.” (Qur’an 4:135)
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Re; Science in Qur’an: Professor E. Marshall Johnson Along with Professor Johnson many scientists [including Co-author of The Developing Human (5th Edition, with Keith L. Moore), Dr. T.V.N. (Vid) Persaud, Professor Emeritus] have praised the scientific miracles or facts found in the Qur’an. Here’s what Professor Johnson & below Dr Persaud had to say: “…in summary, the Qur’an describes not only the development of external form, but emphasises also the internal stages, the stages inside the embryo, of its creation and development, emphasising major events recognised by contemporary science.” “As a scientist, I can only deal with things which I can specifically see. I can understand embryology and developmental biology. I can understand the words that are translated to me from the Qur’an. As I gave the example before, if I were to transpose myself into that era, knowing what I do today and describing things, I could not describe the things that were described…”
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Dr. Persaud “It seems to me that Muhammad was a very ordinary man, he couldn’t read, didn’t know how to write, in fact he was an illiterate… We’re talking about 1400 years ago, you have some illiterate person making profound statements that are amazingly accurate, of a scientific nature… I personally can’t see how this could be mere chance, there are too many accuracies and like Dr. Moore [Professor Keith Moore], I have no difficulty in my mind reconciling that this is a divine inspiration or revelation which lead him to these statements.”
Amongst many; few statements selected from some of the most prominent personalities of the World about Islam:
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Bertrand Russel “Our use of phrase ‘The Dark ages’ to cover the period from 699 to 1,000 marks our undue concentration on Western Europe.. “From India to Spain, the brilliant civilization of Islam flourished…” ‘History of Western Philosophy,’ London, 1948, p. 419
—— Lesley Hazleton: award-winning British-American writer of politics, religion, and history “…And where the Bible is addressed exclusively to men using the 2nd or 3rd person masculine, the Qur’an includes women, talking for instance of believing men, AND believing women, honourable men AND honourable women…” [in her YouTube video, “Leslie Hazelton reads Qur’an”
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Dr. Philip Mansel: British historian and author of books about revolutionary and post-revolutionary France and the rise and fall of the Ottoman Empire: “Here in the land of the Turks we have nothing to complain of. We possess great fortunes; much gold and silver are in our hands. We are not oppressed with heavy taxes and our commerce is free and unhindered. Rich are the fruits of the earth. Everything is cheap and every one of us lives in peace and freedom…” Philip Mansel.1995. Constantinople : City of the World’s desire, 1453-1924. Penguin Books, p. 15
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Lamartine-Histoire de la Turquie, Paris 1854, Vol II, pp. 276-77: “If greatness of purpose, smallness of means, and astounding results are the three criteria of human genius, who could dare to compare any great man in modern history with Muhammad? The most famous men created arms, laws and empires only. They founded, if anything at all, no more than material powers which often crumbled away before their eyes. This man moved not only armies, legislations, empires, peoples and dynasties, but millions of men in one-third of the then inhabited world; …”Philosopher, orator, apostle, legislator, warrior, conqueror of ideas, restorer of rational dogmas, of a cult without images; the founder of twenty terrestrial empires and of one spiritual empire, that is Muhammad. As regards all standards by which human greatness may be measured, we may well ask, is there any man greater than he?”
Amongst many; few statements selected from some of the most prominent personalities of the World about Islam:
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Jared Diamond Professor of Physiology at the UCLA School of Medicine; recipient of the Pulitzer Prize for General Non-Fiction in 1998. “Medieval Islam was technologically advanced and open to innovation. It achieved far higher literacy rates than in contemporary Europe; it assimilated the legacy of classical Greek civilization to such a degree that many classical books are now known to us only through Arabic copies. It invented windmills, trigonometry, lateen sails and made major advances in metallurgy, mechanical and chemical engineering and irrigation methods. In the middle-ages the flow of technology was overwhelmingly from Islam to Europe rather from Europe to Islam. Only after the 1500’s did the net direction of flow begin to reverse.”[Guns, Germs, and Steel – The Fates of Human Societies, 1997, p. 253]
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James A. Michener February 3, 1907 – October 16, 1997) was an American author of more than 40 titles, the majority of which were sweeping family sagas, covering the lives of many generations in particular geographic locales and incorporating historical facts into the stories. ‘Islam: The Misunderstood Religion’ in Reader’s Digest (American Edition), May 1955, pp. 68-70:
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“Muhammad, the inspired man who founded Islam, was born about A.D. 570 into an Arabian tribe that worshipped idols. Orphaned at birth, he was always particularly solicitous of the poor and needy, the widow and the orphan, the slave and the downtrodden. At twenty he was already a successful businessman, and soon became director of camel caravans for a wealthy widow. When he reached twenty-five, his employer, recognizing his merit, proposed marriage. Even though she was fifteen years older, he married her, and as long as she lived, remained a devoted husband.
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“Like almost every major prophet before him, Muhammad fought shy of serving as the transmitter of God’s word, sensing his own inadequacy. But the angel commanded ‘Read’. So far as we know, Muhammad was unable to read or write, but he began to dictate those inspired words which would soon revolutionize a large segment of the earth: “There is one God.” “In all things Muhammad was profoundly practical. When his beloved son Ibrahim died, an eclipse occurred, and rumors of God’s personal condolence quickly arose. Whereupon Muhammad is said to have announced, ‘An eclipse is a phenomenon of nature. It is foolish to attribute such things to the death or birth of a human-being.’
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“At Muhammad’s own death an attempt was made to deify him, but the man who was to become his administrative successor killed the hysteria with one of the noblest speeches in religious history: ‘If there are any among you who worshipped Muhammad, he is dead. But if it is God you worshipped, He lives forever.'”
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Leo Tolstoy (1828-1910) Russian author, essayist & philosopher & author of the epic novel War and Peace (1865-69)
Muhammad has always been standing higher than Christianity. He does not consider God as a human being and never makes himself equal to God. Muslims worship nothing but God and Muhammad is His Messenger. There is no any mystery and secret in it.
Nice post. I learn something totally new and challenging on websites I stumbleupon every day.
It will always be helpful to read through articles from other writers and use something from other websites.
I have a big problem with any God who apparently put us on Earth with the only purpose being to worship him. If one Jew or Christian or Muslim dies in misery because of his or her belief in God proves that this God is at best cruel.
Blessed are the pure in heart for they shall see god
The Satanic Verses right enough.
Isn’t it interesting that Mecca is 666 miles (nautical) from the Temple Mount in Jerusalem.
If you are indeed Salman Rushdie, you will know whether or not this is for real:
Apparently, 666 is also Bismallah in arabic, which means in the name of allah. The number of his name as in Revelation 13?
Dear Salman Rusdie and Koos,
Your silly beliefs of 666 has no meaning whatsoever. The Bible is not the word of God and that is a fact as one cannot prove it.
Islam is a Rational, Logical, Universal Faith that is Based on Reason and Proof, So Mr Salman please stop Pakistani, Irani or any World’s beliefs and read the whole Qur’an with translation of your language and read the Seerah of Prophet Mohammad [pbuh] and you will know this Faith is The Truth.
Also read on Google “What Prominent Non Muslims say about Islam” [and Mohammad]
Islam is the religion of Adam, Noah, Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Moses , Jesus and Mohammad [peace be upon them ALL] ALL were Muslims all worshiped Allah [One God Alone]
Wrong, Umer. Yeshua never worshipped the devil. allah demands the death of all who refuse to submit or who leave islam, satan demands the death of all who leave their coven. See a link there?
Yeshua/ Jesus Christ berated His followers when they wanted to call fire from heaven to destroy a town that refused Him passage. Mohammad demanded that all who refuse passage to him or his lies, be destroyed.
Yeshua commanded to bless our enemies and pray for them. Mohammad demanded that all enemies of islam must be murdered.
Yeshua commanded His followers to leave any town or city that refused to accept the gospel, shake off the dust from their feet as a witness against the place on Judgement day, and go on to the next town. Notice that He nowhere told them to come back and murder all.
Mohammad demanded that all who refuse to accept his lies, be murdered. Whole towns and cities, if needs be.
Islam is illogical, demanding that the heavens are held on seven pillars and the sun goes to sleep in a muddy pool each night, before asking satan/allah’s permission to rise again in the morning. Islam is irrational, refusing to accept any word other than what the caliph/mufti/imam tells the follower to believe.
Islam is not a universal faith: faith is based on believing what one cannot see, and getting the evidence of it in time in return. Islam is a universal enslavement, where all are commanded to believe in one specific way (why else are the Sunni and Shia murdering each other?) and one’s only assurance of entering Jannah is to die while murdering innocents – especially Jews and Christians.
Umer, you know that allah/satan commanded you to lie to the infidel inorder to further the cause of islam. YHWH, the God of Christianity and Judaism, commanded not to lie at all (Ninth Commandment). You are aware that allah/ satan commanded to commit adultery by claiming that any marriage not muslim, is not acceptable in satan/ allah’s eyes and therefore the woman may freely ne taken by the muslim. YHWH commanded very clearly not to commit adultery. And while islam command that the woman must be murdered for adultery and the man goes free, YHWH commanded that both must die. islam has double standards – YHWH stated very clearly to Israel, that a double-weigh scale (double standards) is an abomination to Him.
And the greatest point of all: Yeshua never worshipped satan/ allah. He used YHWH’s Word against allah when it tried to tempt Yeshua to worship it and when it tried to get Yeshua to commit suicide by jumping off the roof of the temple.
May there be peace upon Adam, Noah, Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, and Moses. Yeshua/ Jesus Christ is with His Father, my God YHWH, and soon returning to deal to Islam as they have dealt to the people of earth.
As for Mohammad? He is burning in the holding cells below, waiting to be cast into the eternal burning Lake of Fire on Judgement Day, so he shall be ever with his god satan/ allah.
Thanks for the insightful article. I found myself delving into the comments, and thought this was equally enlightening on the nature of the human race. I am happy. I do not fear death, or life. I do not need more than what I have. I make no claims or assertions for anyone else. I hope everyone finds what they need.
Is saying Islamic Americans correct or is it Muslim Americans?
You would use Muslim…but that would be like saying Jewish American. It is not an ethnic group. Muslim is a person that practices Islam. Islam is the religion itself.
I am getting more information from the comments then the actual page.
I am getting more information from the comments then the actual page.
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Christians don’t kill other people because of their belief,and they don’t fly airplanes into buildings either,why don’t muslim’s teach the truth about our God and our bible?
It would a lot easier if you just said that the difference between Islam and Muslim is the same as the difference between Christianity and Christian, Buddhism and Buddhist, Hinduism and Hindu, Atheism and Atheist etc.
It’s very simple.
Absorb the contents of the Urantia Book into your conscience, and you will KNOW.
Mikey left no button to reply, so I have to reply this way:
“This is for Koos. Distance from an object can distort how much you think an object had moved. The color change of the star is because the color is based on the angle it is seen in our atmosphere, so it can be seen as flashing between a few different colors. And Sirius is not just one star it is two. One white dwarf and super bright star right next to it.”
I am well well aware that Sirius is a twin. And i am well aware that it does not flash red and green and white – if you see such a star, adjust your ‘scope, you’re probably looking at traffic light.
I am well aware that the distance from an object influences the perceived movement compared to the true movement – i have my maritime navigator’s license, that is a part of what we are told to keep in mind before we beach a boat at night, instead of bringing it alongside the quay. That is also why during navigation, one needs to constantly keep tabs on where one is, because depending on where on the earth one is, it is easy to miss a target by miles if one does not keep adjusting for latitude and longitude.
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“What us wrong with Galileo? Do you believe the Sun revolves around the Earth? What wrong with Plato? I would view what he created as a “religion.” I see no problem in that.”
So why is Galileo’s theory, based on Plato’s idolatry of the sun as the greatest of gods, considered fact? And i do mean, he merely went back to Plato’s theory because otherwise he had nothing to hit the pope with.
Back to a question I love to ask: why do we have only one set of star signs for an entire year? HOW fast do those stars, millions, billions of light years away, have to move in order to keep their position, give or take a few degrees, for the entire year? If the sun, moon and planets orbit around the earth, and the earth spins on its own axis, one would get the same effect from the universe. Otherwise please tell me what happened to the Winter/ Summer set of signs.
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“And finally, have you been living under a rock in the past fifty years?”
No, i have been living on trillions of rocks, collectively called “earth.” And i have been taught to question what i am told, not blindly accept it because some guy with a telescope said something to appease the enemies of the church a few centuries ago. Myself, i am not a fan of the pope at all: but i do believe that one must think past what one is told, search deeper than the textbooks. The textbooks tell you what the current .gov wants you to know.
. . . well, you’ve got to start somewhere, right?