Difference Between Islam and Muslim
Islam vs Muslim
Nearly one quarter of the world’s population follows the religion that was revealed to the Prophet Mohammed and subsequently transcribed into the Quran. Despite its number of faithful followers that have now settled across the globe, many Westerners don’t have a clear idea of what this religion entails. Subsequently, even incredibly fundamental questions, such as the difference between Islam and Muslim, arise as these same Westerners are beginning to explore their increasingly globalized world. Beyond linguistic distinctions, there are actually very few differences between Islam and Muslim.
Definition of Islam and Muslim
- Islam : the meaning comes from the Arabic verbal noun (like a gerund) s-l-m. When appropriate vowel markers are added the word Islam appears. The etymology of s-l-m is to submit, accept, or surrender. From this comes Islam’s conventional definition of surrender to God.
- Muslim : also has its roots in the s-l-m verb. It is a participle of the verb and refers to a person who engages in the act of submission, acceptance, or surrender. Therefore a Muslim is a person who submits to the will of God, or a follower of Islam.
Uses of Islam and Muslim
- Islam is generally used in conversation to denote the religion or community of believes as a whole. For instance: ‘The Islamic community in town will be celebrating Eid next week.’ It is also used when talking about the religion as a noun unto itself. For instance: ‘Islam is based on the sayings of the Prophet Mohammed that have been written down in the Quran.’
- Muslim is generally used in conversation to qualify or distinguish a person. For instance, ‘Remember the Muslim man who works at the bank?’ It can also be used as a simple description of one’s religious beliefs. For instance: ‘He is Christian but she is Muslim.’ Because Muslims are a minority community in many countries and most of the West, describing someone as Muslim may also reflect on their lifestyle and choice of dress in addition to their religious beliefs.
Misuses of Islam and Muslim
- Islam : grammatically speaking, Islam should only refer to the religion or acts done in the name of that religion, never a person who practices that religion. Islamic community and Islamic art are correct, Islamic man is not.
- Muslim should be used to describe all people of the Islamic faith but not the faith itself. You may say that you are interested in the religion of Muslims, but never in the Muslim religion.
Summary:
1.Islam and Muslim are both words used to describe the religion revealed to the Prophet Mohammed.
2.Islam and Muslim both have the same origin in the Arabic verb s-l-m.
3.Islam is the act of submitting to the will of God whereas a Muslim is person who participates in the act of submission.
4.To be correctly used, Islam or Islamic should describe the religion and its subsequent cultural concepts whereas Muslim should only describe the followers of the religion of Islam.
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for example a sentence would be:
Islam is a religion of terror.
OR
All Muslims are terrorists
you are a terrorist all musllimsare good people and humanbeing
I believe that Muslims are not true followers of Mohammed because he (Mohammed) never wished for terror but you vindicate other people who are not muslims as terrorist. Terror attacks where mostly initiated by Muslims ( who proudly claims they are human beings). Even animals long for peace how much more human beings. You neither belong to any of the group (not human and not an animal !!!).
In fact we MUSLIMS also suffer more than any one else because of terror caused to us here in the Middle East.This is very sad to see media focusing only on terrorist mbut not on peace loving normal people who makes 99.999% of us.I shall never stereotype and judge Christians by acts done by IRA in Ireland or by Huto in Congo or by actions of Hindus againest Churches in India,what is happened in Serbia againest MUSLIMS.
I agree with you in some part. Yes I beleive any religion or therir religious wods can not teach any bad lession against humaninty. The people whoo follow that make it as they like to do with name of religious. Basically in muslims most of people are not educated properly. Due to uneducation their thoughts do not get matured to find right things, resulting not to protest against some person who divert their life to do some terrorism. For example during the independence when India divided into India and Pakistan due to riot both the hindus and muslim equally affected. But in India some muslim making this and issue doing terrorism but no hindu is doing any kind of this activity neiter in India or Pakistan.
I really appreciate this statement because most of these people are closed minded and stupid. I am a christian but i would never judge ALL muslims due to the actions of the few.
i totally agree with you but these people are not muslims nor human beings.
To sangeetha,
My sister, i dont agree with you at all. pls go back to history you will find n number of terrorist acts conducted by individuals/organization with representation to a religion other than MUSLIMS. I do agree that some acts in the name of terrorism done by some sects but you cant take it granted as the religion itself preaches that act for the only reason he is bearing a muslim name, Who are those grt hindu religious scholars who were caught in several recent bombings in and aroun india. this also go wit IRE in ireland are they muslims. pls watch the video of Dr. zakir naik from youtube, really resourceful on the topic: IS TERRORISM A MUSLIM MONOPLY??? . so we cant blame religion for the act of such a hand countable numbering peoples hopeless acts. Islam is the only true religion of the world and if you want your soul to rest in peace aftr ur death. I really recommend to study thoroughly about all the religion in this world and let me see how you grade the religion islam. Islam is the religion of peace. May allah bless you hidayath…..
ter·ror·ist
   /ˈtɛrərɪst/ Show Spelled[ter-er-ist] Show IPA
–noun
1.
a person, usually a member of a group, who uses or advocates terrorism.
2.
a person who terrorizes or frightens others.
3.
(formerly) a member of a political group in russia aiming at the demoralization of the government by terror.
4.
an agent or partisan of the revolutionary tribunal during the Reign of Terror in France.
Oh my! It says “A person”… Let me repeat that a terrorist is A PERSON who terrorizes or frightens others. It says absolutely nothing about being Muslim. In fact, the religion itself promotes love and charity. You can’t punish the entire faith for the power seeking ones who are simply out to make a profit and justify themselves by completely blowing up and twisting the ideas of a very kind hearted religion?
The Difference between the Bible and the Quran
Based on a transcript of a lecture by Dr. Gary Miller
The Bible is a collection of writings by many different authors. The Qur’an is a dictation. The speaker in the Qur’an – in the first person – is God talking directly to man. In the Bible you have many men writing about God and you have in some places the word of God speaking to men and still in other places you have some men simply writing about history. The Bible consists of 66 small books. About 18 of them begin by saying: This is the revelation God gave to so and so… The rest make no claim as to their origin. You have for example the beginning of the book of Jonah which begins by saying: The word of the Lord came to Jonah the son of Elmitaeh saying… quote and then it continues for two or three pages.
If you compare that to one of the four accounts of the life of Jesus, Luke begins by saying: “many people have written about this man, it seems fitting for me to do so too”. That is all… no claim of saying “ these words were given to me by God here they are for you it is a revelation”, there is no mention of this.
The Bible does not contain self-reference, that is, the word ‘Bible’ is not in the Bible. Nowhere does the Bible talk about itself. Some scriptures are sometimes pointed to in the Bible, say: Here where it talks about itself, but we have to look closely. 2nd Timothy 3:16 is the favourite which reads: “All scripture is inspired of God” and there are those who would say, here is where the Bible it talks about itself, it says it is inspired of God, all of it. But if you read the whole sentence, you read that this was a letter wrote by Paul to Timothy and the entire sentence says to Timothy: “Since you were a young man you have studied the holy scriptures, all scriptures inspired by God” and so on… When Timothy was a young man the New Testament did not exist, the only thing that stems he was talking about are scriptures – which are only a portion of the Bible – from before that time. It could not have meant the whole Bible.
There is at the end of the Bible a verse which says: “Let anyone who takes away from this book or adds to this book be cursed”. This to is sometimes pointed to me saying: Here is where it sums itself as a whole. But look again and you will see that when it says: Let no one change this book, it is talking about that last book, number 66, the Book of Revelation. It has too, because any reference will tell you that the Book of Revelation was written before certain other parts of the Bible were written. It happens today to be stacked at the end, but there are other parts that came after, so it can not be referring to the entire book.
It is an extreme position held only by some Christian groups that the Bible – in its entirety – cover to cover is the revealed word of God in every word, but they do a clever thing when they mention this, or make this claim. They will say that the Bible in its entirety is the word of God; inerrant (no mistakes) in the original writings. So if you go to the Bible and point out some mistakes that are in it you are going to be told: Those mistakes were not there in the original manuscript, they have crept in so that we see them there today. They are going on problem in that position. There is a verse in the Bible Isaiah 40:8 which in fact is so well known that some Bibles printed it on the inside front cover as an introduction and it says : “ The grass weathers, the flower fades, but the word of our God stands forever”. Here is a claim in the Bible that the word of God will stand forever, it will not be corrupted, it won’t be lost. So if today you find a mistake in the Bible you have two choices. Either that promise was false that when God said my word wont fade away, he was mistaken, or the portion which has the mistake in it was not a part of the word of God in the first place, because the promise was that it would be safeguarded, it would not be corrupted.
I have suggested many times that there are mistakes in the Bible and the accusation comes back very quickly: Show me one. Well there are hundreds. If you want to be specific I can mention few. You have for example at 2nd Samuel 10:18 a description of a war fought by David saying that he killed 7000 men and that he also killed 40000 men on horsebacks. In 1st Chronicles 19 it mentions the same episode saying that he killed 70000 men and the 40000 men were not on horsebacks, they were on foot. The point be what is the difference between the pedestrian and not is very fundamental.
Matthew 27:5 says that Judas Iscariot when he died he hung himself. Acts 1 says that no he jumped off a cliff head first. If you study Logic very soon you will come in your course to what they call an “undecidable propositions” or “meaningless sentences” or statements that can not be decided because there is no contextual false. One of the classic examples sited is something called the Effeminites paradox. This man was Cretan and he said “Cretans always lie”, now was that statement true or false? If he was a Cretan and he says that they always lie is he lying? If he is not lying then he is telling the truth then the Cretans don’t always lie ! You see it can not be true and it can not be false, the statement turns back on itself. It is like saying “What I am telling you right now is a lie” would you believe that or not? You see the statement has no true content. It can not be true and it can not be false. If it is true it is always false. If it is false it is also true.
Well in the Bible at Titus 1:12 the writer is Paul and he is talking about the Cretans. He says that one of their own men – a prophet – said “Cretans always lie” and he says that what this man says is true. It is a small mistake, but the point is that it is a human mistake, you don’t find that if you carefully examine the true content of that statement. It can not be a true statement.
Now I come back to the Qur’an, and as I mentioned the speaker in the Qur’an is – in the first person – is God. The book claims throughout that it is the word of God. It names itself 70 times as the Qur’an. It talks about its own contents. It has self-reference. The Qur’an states in the first Sura after Fatiha that “This is the book, there is no doubt in it, it is a guidance for those who are conscious of God” and so on and so on… It begins that way and continues that way stressing that. And there is one very amazing statement in the Qur’an when you come to the fourth Sura 82nd Ayah which says to those who say Qur’an is something else than the word of God. It challenges them saying: “Have they not considered the Qur’an, if it came from someone other than God they will find in it many mistakes”. Some of you are students, would you dare to hand in a paper after you completed a research work or something at the bottom you put down there “You wont find mistakes in this”. Would you dare to challenge your professor that way?. Well the Qur’an does that. It is telling: If you really think you know where this came from then starts looking for mistakes because you wont find any. Another interesting thing the Qur’an does is that it quotes all its critics. There has never – in hundreds of years – ever been some suggestion as to where that book came from but that the Qur’an does not already mention that objection and reply to it. Many times you will find the Ayah saying something like: Do they say such and such and so, say to them such and such and so. In every case there is a reply. More than that the Qur’an claims that the evidence of its origin is in itself, and that if you look at this book you will be convinced.
So the difference in Christianity and Islam comes down to a difference of authority and appeal to authority. The Christian wants to appeal to the Bible and the Muslim wants to appeal to the Qur’an. You can not stop by saying: This is true because me book say it is, and somebody else would say something else is true because my book says differently, you can not stop at that point, and the Qur’an does not. The Christians may point to some words that it is recorded Jesus said and say this proves my point. But the Muslim does not simply open his book and say: No, no the Qur’an says this, because the Qur’an does not simply deny something the Bible says and say something else instead. The Qur’an takes the form of a rebuttal, it is a guidance as the opening says (Huda lil mutakeen). So that for every suggestion that the Christian may say: My Bible say such and such, the Qur’an will not simply say: No that is not true, it will say: Do they say such and such then ask them such and such. You have for example the Ayah that compares Jesus and Adam. There are those who may say that Jesus must have been God (Son of God) because he had no father. He had a woman who was his mother, but there was no human father. It was God that gave him life, so he must have been God’s son. The Qur’an reminds the Christian in one short sentence to remember Adam – who was his father ? – and in fact, who was his mother ? He did not have a father either and in fact he did not have a mother, but what does that make him? So that the likeness of Adam is the likeness of Jesus, they were nothing and then they became something; that they worship God.
So that the Qur’an does not demand belief – the Qur’an invites belief, and here is the fundamental difference. It is not simply delivered as: Here is what you are to believe, but throughout the Qur’an the statements are always: Have you O man thought of such and such, have you considered so and so. It is always an invitation for you to look at the evidence; now what do you believe ?
The citation of the Bible very often takes the form of what is called in Argumentation: Special Pleading. Special Pleading is when implications are not consistent. When you take something and you say: Well that must mean this, but you don’t use the same argument to apply it to something else. To give an example, I have seen it in publications many times, stating that Jesus must have been God because he worked miracles. In other hand we know very well that there is no miracle ever worked by Jesus that is not also recorded in the Old Testament as worked by one of the prophets. You had amongst others, Elijah, who is reported to have cured the leper, raise the dead boy to life and to have multiplied bread for the people to eat – three of the most favourite miracles cited by Jesus. If the miracles worked by Jesus proved he was God, why don’t they prove Elijah was God ? This is Special Pleading, if you see what I mean. The implications are not consistent. If this implies that then in that case it must also imply the same thing. We have those who would say Jesus was God because he was taken up in the heaven. But the Bible also says the a certain Einah did not die he was taken up into the heaven by God. Whether it is true or not, who knows, but the point is if Jesus being taken up proves he is God, why does not it prove Einah was God? The same thing happened to him.
I wrote to a man one time, who wrote a book about Christianity and I had some of the objections I mentioned to you now. And his reply to me was that I am making matters difficult to myself, that there are portions in the Bible that are crystal clear and that there are portions that are difficult, and that my problem was that I am looking at the difficult part instead of the clear parts. The problem is that this is an exercise in self deception – why are some parts clear and some parts difficult? It is because somebody decided what this clearly means, now that makes this very difficult. To give you an example, John Chapter 14 a certain man said to Jesus: Show us God, and Jesus said: If you have seen me you have seen God. Now without reading on the Christian will say: See Jesus claimed to be God, he said if you have seen me you have seen God. If that is crystal clear then you have a difficult portion when you go back just a few pages to Chapter 5 when another man came to Jesus and said show us God and he said you have never seen God you have never heard his voice. Now what did he mean there if on the other occasion he meant that he was God? Obviously you have made matters difficult by deciding what the first one meant. If you read on in Chapter 14 you will see what he went on to say. He was saying the closest you are going to seeing God are the works you see me doing.
It is a fact that the words “son of God” are not found on the lips of Jesus anywhere in the first three Gospel accounts, he was always calling himself the Son of Man. And it is a curious form of reasoning that I have seen so often that it is established from Bible that he claimed to be God because – look how the Jews reacted. They will say for example he said such and such and the Jews said he is blaspheming, he claimed to be God and they tried to stone him. So they argue that he must have been claiming to be God because look ! – the Jews tried to kill him. They said that’s what he was claiming. But the interesting thing is that all the evidence is then built on the fact that a person is saying: I believed that Jesus was the son of God because the Jews who killed him said that’s what he used to say ! His enemies used to say that, so he must have said it, this is what it amounts to. In other hand we have the words of Jesus saying he would keep the law, the law of Moses and we have the statement in the Bible, why did the Jews kill him ? Because he broke the law of Moses. Obviously the Jews misunderstood him, if he promised he would keep the law, but they killed him because he broke the law, they must have misunderstood him, or lied about him.
When I talk about the Bible and quote various verses here and there I am often accused of putting things out of context, to say you have lifted something out of what it was talking about and given it a meaning. I don’t want to respond to the accusation as such, but it doesn’t seem to occur to many people that perhaps those who wrote portions of the Bible in the first place were guilty of the same thing. Maybe they – some of those writers – believed a certain thing and in order to prove it quoted from their scriptures – the Old Testament, the Hebrew writings – quoted out of context to prove their point. There are examples of that kind of thing. In Matthew 2 it said that a king wanted to kill the young child Jesus so he with his family went to Egypt, and they stayed there until that king died, and then they came back. When the writer of Matthew, whoever he was, because the name Matthew wont be found in the book of Matthew; when he described this event saying that he came back out of Egypt, he said: “ This was to fulfil a prophecy which is written” and then he quotes Hosea Chapter 11 “Out of Egypt I called my Son”. So he said because Jesus went to Egypt and then came back out of Egypt and we have this passage in the Hebrew scriptures “out of Egypt I called my son” Jesus must have been the son of God. If you look and see what he was quoting, Hosea 11:1 he quotes the second half of a complete sentence, the complete sentence reads: “When Israel was young I loved him and out of Egypt I called my son”. Israel the nation was considered as the son of God. Moses was told to go to Pharaoh and say to him: If you touch that nation of people, you touch my son; warning him, warning Pharaoh: don’t touch that nation, calling the nation “the son of God”. So that this is the only thing talked about in Hosea 11:1. “Out of Egypt I called my son” can only refer to the nation of Israel. I mentioned this point some months ago here in another talk, to which a young lady with us objected that Israel is a symbolic name for Jesus. You will have a hard time finding that anywhere in the Bible because it isn’t there. You can take an index of the Bible and lookup the word “Israel” everywhere the word occurs and you will find no where in any place that you can connect the word Israel with Jesus. But never mind – suppose it is true, read on, the second verse says “and after that he kept on worshipping Bal”, because this is what the Israelites were guilty of, very often they kept falling back into Idol worshipping. So if that “Israel” really meant Jesus and it means that Jesus is the son of God that came out of Egypt they must also mean that Jesus from time to time used to bow down to that idol Bal. You have to be consistent, and follow through on what it says. So the point is whoever wrote Matthew and Chapter 2 was trying to prove a point by quoting something out of context, and he undid himself, because if you follow through on it, it can not be so.
Now I can come back to the claim the Qur’an makes that it has internal evidence of its origin. There are many many ways that you can look at this. As one example, if I single out somebody here and say: You know, I know your father – he is going to doubt that, he has never seen me with his father. He would say, how does he look like, is he tall short does he wear glasses? and so on, and if I give him the right answers pretty soon he will get convinced, “Oh yes, you did meet him”. If you apply the same kind of thinking when you look at the Qur’an, here is a book that says it came from the one who was there when the universe began. So you should be asking that one: So tell me something that proves it. Tell me something that shows me you must have been there when the universe was beginning. You will find in two different Ayahs the statement that all the creation began from a single point, and from this point it is expanding. In 1978 they gave the Noble prize to two people who proved that thats the case. It is the big bang origin of the universe. It was determined by the large radio receivers that they have for the telephone companies which were sensitive enough to pick up the transmissions from satellites and it kept finding background noise that they could not account for. Until the only explanation came to be, it is the left over energy from that original explosion which fits in exactly as would be predicted by the mathematical calculation of what would be this thing if the universe began from a single point and exploded outwards. So they confirmed that, but in 1978. Centuries before that here is the Qur’an saying the heavens and the earth in the beginning they were one piece and split and says in another Ayah : “of the heavens we are expanding it”.
Let me tell you about a personal investigation, it occurred to me that there are a number of things you can find in the Qur’an that give evidence to its origin – internal evidence. If the Qur’an is dictated from a perfect individual; it originates with God, then there should not be any wasted space, it should be very meaningful. There should be nothing that we don’t need that you can cut off, and it should not be missing anything. And so that everything in there should really be there for a specific purpose. And I got to thinking about the Ayah which I mentioned before, it says, the likeness of Jesus is the likeness of Adam. It an equation, it uses the Arabic word (mithel), it says Jesus, Adam, equal. You go to the index of the Qur’an, you look up the name ISA it is in the Qur’an 25 times, you lookup the name Adam it is there 25 times. They are equal, through scattered references but 25 of each. Follow that through and you will find that in the Qur’an there are 8 places were an Ayah says something is like something else, using this (Mithel), you will find in every case and take both sides of it whatever that word is look it up in the index and it will be lets say 110 times and lookup the other word and it will be said to be equal to the same 110. That is quite a project of co-ordination if you try to write a book that way yourself. So that everywhere you happened to mention that such and such is like such and such that then you check your index, filing system, or your IBM punch cards or whatever, to make sure that in this whole book you mentioned them both the same number of times. But that’s what you will find in the Qur’an.
What I am talking about is built on a thing that is called in Logic: Use and Mention of a Word. When you use a word, you are using its meaning. When you mention a word, you are talking about the symbol without the meaning. For example, if I say Toronto is a big city – I used the word Toronto as I meant this place Toronto is a big city. But if I say to you Toronto has 7 letters, I am not talking about this place Toronto, I am talking about this word – Toronto. So, the revelation is above reasoning, but it is not above reason. That is to say we are more up not to find in the Qur’an something that is unreasonable, but we may find something that we would have never figured out for ourselves.
The author of this sentence said if this book came from someone besides God then you will find in it many Ikhtalafan (inconsistencies). The word Ikhtilaf is found many times in the Qur’an. But the word Ikhtalafan is only found once in the Qur’an. So there are not many Ikhtilafan in the Qur’an, there is only one – where the sentence is mentioned. So you see how things are put together perfectly. It has been suggested to mankind: Find a mistake. Man could not get hold of a mistake, and he is very clever, because this sentence could also mean: Find many Iktilafan and so he quickly goes to the index to see if he can find many of them and there is only one… Sorry clever person !
muslim’s are followers of islam who believe in the Quran,not only a religion but an ideolgy similiar to Hitler,who wanted to kill all jews muslim;s want to kill all no-believers of the Quran.
Yes, it’s a VERY peaceful religion!
As an example:
What other religion’s most devoted members videotape themselves cutting people’s throats while screaming praises to their god?
What other faith has tens of thousands of terrorists across the globe united by an explicit commitment to advance the cause of their religion by pursuing horrific mass murder and mutilation?
What other religion has clerics lauded as ‘moderates’, ‘bridge-builders’, and advocates of ‘peace and tolerance’ who, at best cannot even bring themselves to condemn suicide bombers or denounce Islamist terror organizations, or at worst actually support terrorism, wife-beating, female genital mutilation and justify the killing of apostates and homosexuals?
What other religion kills innocent people over cartoons and teddy bears, and murders humanitarian workers of other faiths who are merely trying to help them?
What other religion actually celebrated the 9/11 attacks, described the carnage as “one of the miracles of the Quran” and proclaimed it to be “God’s work against oppressors”?
What other religion childishly brags about its growth while at the same time openly denies other religions equal opportunity to evangelize and even endorses killing those who leave?
What other religion has prominent PR organizations and charities so closely tied to terrorism – organizations like CAIR, which whine about dress codes and rubber ducks in the West while ignoring the Jihad genocide of thousands in Darfur?
What other religion has verses in its holy book that remind men of their divine permission to beat their wives and rape their slaves?
The list could go on (and does – each day on TheReligionof-Peace.com). Islam so routinely produces horrible atrocities in the name of Allah that no one is all that surprised when…
Adults are tied to a tree or planted in the ground and bludgeoned to death by fundamentalists for engaging in consensual sex…
A New York woman trying to file for divorce is beheaded by her husband, who also happens to be the founder of a Muslim-American TV channel dedicated to combating “misconceptions” and “stereotypes” about Islam…
Religious leaders are charged by authorities with plotting spectacular acts of mass murder in the name of their god…
Clerics advocate raping virgins prior to executing them for verbal crimes such as political dissent…
Pollsters admit that about 1 out of 3 Muslims worldwide (450 million) view the terrorism of 9/11 as justified…
A Christian is murdered in front of his own family for leaving Islam, and his children then kidnapped and ‘conscripted’ by his killers…
80% of all federal terror prosecutions involve a religion that is practiced by only 1% of all Americans…
How shocking all of this would be if it didn’t involve the Islamic religion. As it is, most of it barely registers in the media. The very fact that the bar of expectation is set so low for “the Religion of Peace” underscores just how different it really is from others.
In fact, Islam is more than a religion. It is a rigid political and cultural system with a mandate to conquer and govern the lives of others via necessary force “until religion is only for Allah.” Violence is sanctioned by the Quran since, as the Ayatollah Khomeini bluntly put it, “people cannot be made obedient except with the sword.”
Thus, the enemy of this orthodoxy is not just intellectual dissent and free speech, but human freedom. The divine charter of Islam is to impose itself and thus prevent the individual from discovering a different meaning for their own lives.
Islam breeds arrogance and self-absorption, which accounts for the collective petulance and perpetual grievance characterizing Muslim populations in general – along with the astonishing unwillingness to extend the equal moral consideration to those outside the religion.
This disregard for others is rooted in the supremacist ideology of the Quran and Islamic law, which unashamedly draws the sharpest distinction between those within the group of believers and those without – towards whom arbitrary denigration is cast and hatred, harsh treatment and eternal punishment is prescribed.
As a consequence, not a day goes by that someone, somewhere in the world, is horribly murdered by devout Muslims in the name of this religion – over ten thousand persons each year. More innocent lives were taken in two hours by devoted Muslims on 9/11 than by the Ku Klux Klan in its entire 140-year history.
Where Islam dominates, there is systematic discrimination and oppression of those of other faiths. Where Muslims are a minority, there is peevish self-interest, disloyalty and eventual rebellion and terror when demand for special privilege is not met – all part of the eternal jihad to bring about the rule of Islam as Muhammad ordered of true believers.
It isn’t the victims who need lessons in tolerance and understanding – it is the Islamic world.
Those willing to open their minds will find that, regardless of the excuse-du-jour, the remarkable level of narcissism, repression and violence is deeply ingrained in the teachings, double standards and early history of the Islamic religion. While there is not a single verse in the Quran that commands love for those outside Islam, there are over 493 that either promote violence or speak of Allah’s hatred for unbelievers – in a book that is largely about how to think of and deal harshly with those outside the “true” faith.
Why rely on rosy platitudes and carefully-edited fragments of Quran verses from apologists when Islam speaks so well for itself? Beyond the whitewashing are obvious reasons why so many devotees do horrible things in the name of Allah, while most of the rest never seem to get terribly upset by it – busy as they are throwing tantrums and demanding for themselves what they deny others.
How much favor are we really doing Muslims by not challenging them to the sort of self-critique necessary for moral progress? How much favor are we doing ourselves by desperately trying to accommodate that which has no intention of accommodating us, or by continuing to sacrifice blood and budgets for those who hate us in return? Is it really in our best interests to assist the expansion within our own borders of a religion that is consistently incapable of building countries in which even Muslims themselves want to live?
Tolerance is a good thing, but not when we allow it to be used cynically against us by those who have no use for it once they obtain power. We need to back away from the altar of political correctness and abandon our preconceptions. We need to rediscover critical thinking.
The truth is that Islam is not a religion of peace and it is not like other religion. Sometimes the truth isn’t comfortable. Sometimes the truth offends. But it is far better that we offend others than lose our own freedom.
So stop saying it’s NOT a religion of peace… or they’ll cut your heads off, you infidels!
What are you a member of Peta? It is very clear that they have a certain animosity toward America. I understand that all Muslims are not BAD people but lets not forget the horrific display they had on our soil.
Im a 13 year old christian but i agree with most if not all muslim veiws and i am seriously considering converting. What these white trash closed minded un edjucated retards dont seem 2 realize is that the muslim religion is really a socialist reliogion that requirs muslims to pay zakat Or charity and stresses peace. The quaran says u believe in what u belive and i believe in what i belive.MORE THAN ONCE. Therefore true followers of the islamic religion would never use acts of terrorism to force there views/beliefs on others.
That is ridicules. So many other religions have done awful terrible things, arguably worse than the terrorism we see today. What about the Spanish Inquisition? That was led by Christians in attempt rid Spain of anybody who was not Christian. In the end almost all of the Muslims were killed. That was pretty, umm, AWFUL.
The media loves to portray things in a way that creates fear and suspicion. It makes the reader want to read more. But it is inaccurate and often cruel. I am not Muslim, but I know many, MANY Muslims, and they are not about to kill anyone. In fact, they are just as opposed to the terrorists as anybody else.
You should really think before you say these hateful things.
Perhaps you forgot, or perhaps you didn’t know, but up until the 1200s much of Spain was controlled by Muslims, as they invaded by force, and weren’t exactly the nicest overlords. You’d be naive to expect everyone to just go back to how things were years and years before that after the Reconquista gained Spain its independence back.
And such is the reason why the First Amendment of the Constitution of the United States of America reads “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.” Christians of the time wanted to avoid the atrocities of the past, yet even today there are Muslims who eagerly will pursue violence against infidels.
all muslims are true and americans are terrorist
Dear Roha, I am not agree with you. Muslims have been divided into many Sects, likes Sunni Muslims, Shia Muslims, Brailve Muslims, Deobandi Muslims, Ahale-e-Hadith Muslim, they are opponents to each other, they imposed faith one to other, they says Kafir (unbelievers) to Muslims . Sunni’s says that Shia’s are Kafir (unbelievers), Shia Says that Sunni are Kafir (unbelievers), Ahale-e-Hadith says that Brailve’s are Kafir (unbelievers), etc. Muslims are still Killing to Muslims and says after that they may be go to paradise. Why you says that all Muslim are true, what mean Roha?
DUDE GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT MOHAMMUD PREACH OF PEACE WHEN HE WAS IN MECCA BUT WHEN HE WENT NORTH TO MEDINA HE SAID TO KILL JEWS AND CHRISTIANS AND STARTED WARS. MOHAMMUD WAS A WAR TYRANT READ THE QURAN AND THE LIFE OF MUHAMMUD.
ISLAM IS A RELIGION OF PEACE WHEN IT COMES TO OTHER MUSLIMS BUT NOT TO THE INFIDELS
READ SURESH 9:5 OF THE QURAN
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Hey i heared your discussion i am also a muslim. Let me tell you those who kill other for nothing and call themselves as terrorists or jihadi are neither human nor muslims as islam doesn’t allow to kill people as long as they compel you are torture you for being a muslim.Infact islam is a very peaceful religion . you know what the word “ISLAM: means?let me tell you it is an arabic word whose meaning is “peace”.You can read any arabic dictionary for that.And please don’t call other innocent muslims as terrorists as we are the one facing this menace of terrorism most and much more than USA,british or any other country in the world.
The Sad fact about all of this is that Muslims are some of the most Charitable people around. It should be remembered that just because a group of radicals exists does not mean that the whole group is like them. This could be said of all faith Mormons and the FLDS and Christians and the KKK or other groups who preach hatred. The fact is that Islam is one of the most beautiful faith on the Earth and they are a great people who believe in helping others and doing good. I love Krister Stendahls (Bishop of Stockholm) 3 rules to inter-faith discussion 1. Compare best with best–take your best traditions and compare them with the other persons best traditions. 2. Ask the members not their critics–Only ask Muslims and people who don’t hate muslims what they actually believe. 3. Leave room for Holy Envy. THis is the best part because it allows all of us to practice what we preach. I am a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints and I have holy envy for Muslims and their conviction to their faith. They seem so dedicated to do even the smallest things to please Allah. I know Mohammad was an inspired man of God and the World has been blessed by him and we continue to be blessed by the Muslims.
“Muslims are not terrorists”…. mohammed said “Look what I have done through TERROR”.
Mohammed murdered a tribe of 80 Jews beheading them in front of their wives, then the wives were taken a “booty” into slavery, and the children. Mohammed “put fire” on a mans chest until he was nerarly dead to find out the whereabouts of treasure.
Mohammed and his men were bandits, murderers, terrosists, liars, thieves, paedophiles and general bastards.
The shot you arselifters come out with is pathetic…we ALL know about your stupid “Faith” its fucking bollocks.
Sorry, not all Muslims are good people, just as not all Chirstians,Budhists,Jews,Hindus and all atheists(!) are good people.
People are not good or bad because of who is their god or who they worship.
But it is something that an average Muslim will find hard to digest.
As a Christian American, I for one hope that I am not judged by the misdeeds of the ‘bad apple’ Christians like some people are quick to judge all of Islam for the misdeeds of a teeny-tiny fraction of extremists in their collective faith. God does not want his children fighting like this!
I absolutely agree! 🙂
a tiny fraction? are u delusional, islam is at war with the world, in africa egypt,america ,russia,england and on and on, you say your a christian so you see a new testament was neccessary.
well they didnt have one, they still live like in stone ages in their preachings and their obligation is to kill christians if they seriously follow the book of their god. They cannot ever accept our culture and the freedom we have as it goes against shiria law. Women are killed and raped for wearing clothes that govt does not accpet, people are stoned to death for speaking badly of allah, kids are taught in school in many iSLAMIST countries from childhood on up that they should kill westerners, their cartoons have suicide bombers defeating america, women are put to death for having an affair etc, now you think with all these psycho stone age laws, they move to america and all of a sudden can fit in? Their are as many Islamist terrorist in the world as their are people in the whole united states with a goal of taking Islam to every corner of the earth by force.
dont be fooled that this is not a gloabl problem, dont think its just a few extremist, look on youtube at muslims in england, london, america, africa,egypt etc etc, this is a huge problem. Telling the truth is not judging people, I have Muslim friends as well, but they are really not following what mohammed says, dont belive the POLITICAL CORRECTNESS of today that their is not a world wide problem with ONE religion ,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfovTPQxSg0
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The obvious solution is to apply reason and compassion, and to move past the ancient need for supernatural (religious) explainations of the natural universe. We are all one species, one race, one people; religion and politics are both devisive and designed to create ways to divide us with an air of superiority (“my group is more morally superior to your group so I am right and you are wrong”).
Those of us who hold a natural worldview are getting tired of watching supernatural believers’ constant fighting over foolishness. We can imagine a world where religious infighting is a curious and dark footnote in ancient history…where it belongs.
then your friends should denounce the muslim faith….
I can understand the need to look beyond social media for our answers… but I also think that the woman and children who are fortunate enough to escape should be shown some respect. They haven’t been given the same opportunity we have and they have a lot to grow from our countries freedom. Narrow-mindedness caused this war… don’t promote it. We never stop learning about religion, so who are you to say anything?
What an inappropriate comment for an educational site. Anyone who thinks that all Muslims are terrorists has never met a Muslim person. I think we have enough redneck bigots out there. You should try going to university, traveling or reading a book now and then.
First of all, not all muslims are terrorists, but so far, all terrorists have been muslims. Ahmadiyya muslims preach a peaceful kind of Islam with a peaceful Jihad so why are the rest of the “peaceful” muslims persecuting them?
Kath said:
“First of all, not all muslims are terrorists, but so far, all terrorists have been muslims.”
Was Timothy McVey a Muslim? Were the Baader-Meinhof gang or the Red Brigade Muslims? The fanatics of Al Qaeda have as much to do with Islam as they do with Christianity or Judaism. Just because they _claim_ to be followers of Islam doesn’t make it so. Neo-Nazi skinheads claim to be Christians and Zionists claim Judaism.
The sad thing is that these three religions worship the same deity and none of them condone killing or hate.
i agree with you joe, not all people that say that they are of something follow waht they say. its one of the major reasons for the problems around the world.
Actually, there’s a number of verses in the Koran which go so far as to even encourage that devout Muslims attack and kill non-Muslims, and that it is the responsibility of all Muslims to spread Sharia law, by any means necessary, so long as it’s forced onto everyone.
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“truth
September 8, 2010 • 4:53 pm .
for example a sentence would be:
Islam is a religion of terror.
OR
All Muslims are terrorists”
Well…. that seems like a harsh example. I am sure if one was to distinguish Christians and Christianity an example like this would have caused an uproar;
Christianity is a false belief.
OR
All Christians are mislead.
‘truth’ I advise you select your examples with care next time and as your name implies stick with the truth. Islam is a religion of peace which infact comes from the word ‘Salam’ – ‘Peace’.
SubhanAllah, Allahuakbar
MASHALLAH NICE WORDS VERY NICE
Masha’Allah indeed, they are the infact the words and praise of our lord – Allah SWT.
Takbeer…. ALLAHU AKBAR !
Yes dear bro. I agree with you that all Muslims should be terrorists but POSITIVELY as it’s said in the Holy Quran which we muslims call it:amr- bel marof wa nahi- anel munkar…
which means encourage to good actions and prevent or abstain from sins… how? in any way to stop crime and sins and bring peace…….
for example when a man is teasing a girl, or stealling or murdering…. when a muslim is watching this he must do anything to stop that, this is the symbol of peace and brotherhood as all Muslims are brothers, so if you believe that Muslims are terrorist and Islam is a religion of terror then why ISLAM is the fast growing religion of 21st century?, why people especially in western countries are converting to Islam daily?, if Islam is not considering the human rights and women rights then why most of the people who are converting to ISLAM in western countries are women? and many more whys…..
look bro. these misunderstandings of majority of people are because of media, whatever the hear they just believe in them, but the reality is something else, one point is that listen to everyone but don’t believe in everything you hear, this may be your point of success…
Dear bro. if you’ve got any problem in Islam just you can contac me with these Email address, I would be very thankful of you…..asad66.sharifi@gmail.com
Asad did you hear yourself? you said you must do anything and everything to stop that person from sinninng.. You are making yourself a god and a just one at that… Do you think you dont sin? Do you think Almighty God would want you thinking that you have the self control and the correct judgement to sit there and stop someone with any means necessary? So you could grab a gun and shoot that person in the head because you felt it was just? You claim this is just? Hear yourself… We are no one to be thinking we can justify an act of sin by committing another sin.. You are fooling yourself and your religion is worthless to believe in it.. Im a believer of Jesus Christ and a faithfull believer at that. The reason allah aka devil and its koran is shooting through the roof is because the Messiah Christ is coming to condemn all those opposed. You will be held accountable for every idle word you speak and every action you do. You are leading many to hell.. one day youll see the light but i hope it wont be to late for you. i leave you with this… 1 John 4
Discerning False Prophets
1 Dear friends, do not believe everyone who claims to speak by the Spirit. You must test them to see if the spirit they have comes from God. For there are many false prophets in the world. 2 This is how we know if they have the Spirit of God: If a person claiming to be a prophet[a] acknowledges that Jesus Christ came in a real body, that person has the Spirit of God. 3 But if someone claims to be a prophet and does not acknowledge the truth about Jesus, that person is not from God. Such a person has the spirit of the Antichrist, which you heard is coming into the world and indeed is already here.
4 But you belong to God, my dear children. You have already won a victory over those people, because the Spirit who lives in you is greater than the spirit who lives in the world. 5 Those people belong to this world, so they speak from the world’s viewpoint, and the world listens to them. 6 But we belong to God, and those who know God listen to us. If they do not belong to God, they do not listen to us. That is how we know if someone has the Spirit of truth or the spirit of deception.
….. If you will humble yourself open your heart and ask forgiveness for your sins to Jesus Christ then He will forgive any who will to.
Prevent anyone from sinning, by any means necessary? Any sins meaning violent crime against another, or any sins meaning women showing any more skin that you’re comfortable with, or people eating and drinking things you’re not comfortable with. Because I’m with you on the first, the justice system is in place to prosecute those who commit violent acts against others, but violently attacking people for enjoying themselves in a manner that your religion, which they may or may not follow, know, or care about, considers a sin is truly disgusting.
my dear brothers and sisters,
It is very clear that no any religion or any true ideology can supprt terrorism .we can see one thing very clear that if we studied about islam no one can support terrorism.It is the path of devils . If we travel through the history of Prophet his tolerance and his mercy is his teachings .he has forgiven to every body who has done harm on him. After becoming the ruler of Arabia he has got all the powers but he told to the unbelivers that ” HE HAS FORGIVEN TO ALL OF THEM”. In his word we can see no person is allowed to to change his/her religion by forcing him or her.So we should keep in our mind the Islam doesn’t agree terrorism.firstly we should study about islam .
Don’t concider every muslim is a terrorist.how can we say that?The person who killed father of nation our ‘MAHATMA GANDHI’ is not a muslim.What had happened in Gujarath?a lot of muslims got killed from there.We can see number of swamis were arrested because of violence against INDIAand muslims.Can we say all Hindus are terrorist?.
If we look America what they are doing is that they are killing innocent children and people.They are attaching muslims how much ever they can.Same way in Israel also.They are fighting against Palasthene with out any reason.can we say Christians and Jews are terrorist.
So we do remember one thing that terrorist has no religion . To attain some benifit they are killing people. They are not in a rightious path.So don’t blame Islam for what terrorist are doing.
HEY THTS NOT FAIR THIS RELIGION IS MISUNDERSTAND B,CUZ OF “OSAMA BIN LADEN ” HE IS THE TERRORIST WE CANT BLAME WHOLE RELIGION , THIS GUY “OBL” THOUGHT KILLING SINCERE HUMANS MEANS JIHAD BUT NO , ATTENTION TO ALL SEE JIHAD MEANS TO FIGHT FOR U R RELIGION AS MENTIONED IN QURAN FIGHT FOR U R RELIGION IN PEACEFULL WAY NOT LIKE JUST ” BHOOOOOOOM BHOOOOOOOM BHOOOOOOOOOOM ALL AROUND ”
SPECIALLY TO OSAMA
IF U DON’T KNOW THE MEANING READ QURAN 100 TIMES OR STOP THIS !!!!
SRY IF I HURTD SOMEBODY’S FEELINGS SRY IF I HURTED ANYONE SRY IF I AM WRONG SOME WHERE ,PLZ CORRECT ME GIVE THE MEANING OF JIHAD FULLY 🙂
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The Bible is a great holy book. The Qur’an is the dictation of an illiterate man according to the History of Islam) .
If you compare between the life of Jesus and Islam Leader there are very different with each other. Jesus is very best leader and Superior in all over the world. Unfortunately Muslims are not accepted the truth. They ignore all history and imposed blame on the Christianity.
Am Ex Muslim. Main reasons for leaving Islam:-
1. No evidence at all going for it.
2. Absurdities, contrivances and contradictions in the Qur’an
3. Life of the “prophet” Mohammed.
4. Brutality of hudud punishments
5. I can’t believe in flying donkeys 🙂
MUHAMMAD & ISLAM: Stories not told before.
RELAY TRUE STORY
Putting way Maria in a separate house did not solve Muhammad’s problem, for she began to blackmail him on the paternity of her child. He tried to subdue her, but failed. Consequently, he brought her to his harem where Hafsah found her in Muhammad’s company in her own room. That was the event that led him to threaten all of his wives with mass divorce (Sura 66). We shall talk about it shortly.
In vain attempts to defend Muhammad’s lascivious deeds, some modern historians of Islam disagree with the accounts of the earlier writers, such as Waqidi and Ibn Ishaq et al. They give us the following account:
Maria and Shiren were the daughters of Simon, one of the most respected Coptic leaders and these two girls were sent to Muhammad by the Archbishop of Alexandria with the request to treat them with all the honor due to them. They were, therefore, not slaves as stated by Waqidi et el (Dr. Rafiq Zakaria, op. cit. p. 53).
Modern historians, however, do not explain why the Archbishop had sent those girls to Muhammad, and what was he supposed to do with them. Without answering these basic questions, the scholars insist that Muhammad had married Maria and also had Shiren married to his friend, Hasan Ibn Thabit.
DISSENSIONS IN THE HAREM
Within a few years of his arrival in Medina, Muhammad became rich for the second time in his life, the first occasion being after his marriage with Khudeija. He now possessed abundant resources, which he acquired through plunder and seizure. He also owned several oasis properties confiscated from the Jews (R. V. C. Bodley, op. cit. p. 229-30). He could now lavish his largesse once again upon whomsoever he pleased. He also set up a Fund to bribe those people who had inclinations towards his faith, but refrained from becoming its adherents (9:60).
Despite the affluence he acquired, the state of his sex health made him greatly sad. Failure to achieve erection made him the object of his wive’s scorn. Their meaningful glances at each other made him look like an unwanted man; their demand for sex made him feel like a eunuch; their giggles at his helplessness made his ears burn; their inattention to his presence made him feel like abandoned and their clandestine efforts at procuring lovers made his blood boil (33:53). Their attitude and conduct made him feel helpless once again in his life; the first one being when his mother left him in Mecca with the strangers, the second one being at Abdul Mutallib and Abu Talib’s homes where no woman had come forward to help or console him in his distress.
As if all insults already heaved on him were not enough, all of his wives joined together in demanding hefty increases to their allowance. He could not do it, for this would have made him bankrupt soon. His refusal to oblige caused all of them to rebel against him.
Finding no easy and practical solution to his domestic problems, Muhammad resorted to his usual revelations. Instead of admitting that he was impotent, he asked, through one revelation, all his wives to give up their clamoring for sex; telling them, at the same time, that his mere presence in their midst should be more satisfying than engaging him with them in real sex (33:51). Through another revelation, he chastised them for demanding increase in their allowances, telling them: If you desire the life of this world and its glitter, then come! I will provide for your enjoyment by setting you free all together in a handsome manner (33:28).
Thus making his intentions clear, he took to spending his nights in Aisha’s room. In choosing Aisha for his nightly companionship, he had two purposes: First, it would help him avoid all the sex-starved women, and, second, he would use her in the same manner in which he had been engaging her, from the time of her infancy, to gratify his own perverted sexual needs.
To Muhammad’s dismay, his move not only failed to solve his problem, it unwittingly made him a victim of Aisha’s caprices. Feeling proud and elevated by his regular nightly companionship, she despised even the slightest variation in his timetable.
Despite herself not having been at all exposed to the pleasures and ecstasy that the penile penetration of vagina gives the females, Aisha is believed to have developed a weird possessiveness towards her man. One day he was late in coming to Aisha’s room. Seizing the opportunity to take him to task, she wanted to know where he had been before coming to her room? Muhammad replied, “I have been with Umm Salamah.” “Hast thou not had thy fill of Umm Salamah?” she asked, and he smiled without answering. She added, “O Messenger of God, tell me thyself. If thou wert between the two slopes of a valley, one of which had not been grazed whereas the other had been grazed, on which wouldst thou pasture thy flocks?” “On that which had not been grazed,” said Muhammad. “Even so,” Aisha said, “and I am not as any other of thy wives. Every woman of them had a husband before thee, except myself.”
Aisha’s continuous nagging and the persistent haranguing of his other wives had its toll on his mental health; it turned him into a sadist. He practiced sadism on all of his wives by depriving them not only the pleasures of sexual intercourse; he also denied them the happiness of motherhood. His ego still remaining unhealed, he chided women for wearing trinkets in their childhood; he derided their allegedly foolish nature (16:92); he declared them incapable of winning debates against men; he equated one man’s intelligence with that of two women (2:282); he decreed man’s hegemony over woman; he put the right of marriage and divorce in the man’s hands (2:236, 229-230); he permitted Muslim men to beat their wives (4:34) even on slightest pretext and last, but not the least, he turned the existence of women to an inanimate thing, with which he encouraged his followers to have sex “in any manner, when and how they willed.”(2:222,223).
Contrary to what we have mentioned about the dysfunctional aspect of his sex life, some Muslim writers tell us that Muhammad satisfied all his wives, concubines and the slave-girls in a single night, for ‘he had the virility of twenty men.'(Martin Lings, op. cit. p. 271). The learned writers, however, do not tell us why any of his fully satisfied women, who joined his harem in Medina, never conceived, even after living with him for as long as ten years?
It had been an Arab custom, from time immemorial, to procure slaves, either by abduction or by purchase. Their male Masters engaged both the male and female slaves in sexual acts whenever they fancied. Females Mistresses, too, engaged the male slaves to satisfy their sexual needs (Philip K. Hitti, op. cit. p. 235). Relying on the pagan Arabs’ promiscuous behavior, Muhammad allowed his own followers to satisfy their sexual inclinations in the same manner.
To make his doctrine on sex more attractive to his followers, Muhammad assured them of having in Paradise a multiple of doe-eyed virgin houris with whom they would have sex ad infinitum. For those men who would not be interested in females, he made a different provision for them. They would be attended in Paradise, he told them, by young boys, graced with eternal youth, who to the beholders’ eyes, will seem like sprinkled pearls. When they would gaze upon the scene (a reference, perhaps, to human anatomy), said he, they would behold a kingdom blissful and glorious (human anatomy, again?). The boys shall be arrayed in garments of fine green silk and rich brocade, and adorned with bracelets of silver. Muhammad himself would give them pure and holy wine, mixed with camphor, to drink 76:19-21). In their state of drunkenness, those boys would be providing complete sexual pleasures to their pious masters, a tantalizing concept that induced many homosexual pagan men to accept Islam without having any regard to the consequences they were likely to face, before their death, in this world.
From the Quran, we have learned much about the Paradise and the amenities it holds for its residents. It width is alone that of the whole of the heavens and the earth (3:133). It has everything to provide a blissful life to all of its occupants. It has more fruits than all the fruits our whole earth has; it has neither rain nor heat of the sun. It does not experience storms nor does it have the snow of the winter (76:13). By virtue of the controlled climate that the Paradise has, neither its present occupants need now nor its future inhabitants would need any homes to live within. All of its present occupants, prophets Idris and Isa (Jesus Christ to the Christians), being two among many others, have all along been living in the Paradise’s open sky. For comfort, they wear silk robes (76:12). They spend their time reclining on soft couches, shadowed by tree branches, from which always hang clusters of fruit (76:14).
Paradise’s inhabitants partake their meals from silver dishes; they have large silver goblets for drinking not only the purest water but also the delectable wine (47:15); its measure being dependent on the drinker’s wish (76:16). No matter the quantity of wine one consumes, he never gets drunk. Instead, he feels a soothing sensation that makes him yearn for sex. If the blessed soul wishes for a female, a doe-eyed virgin houri presents herself for copulation. On the other hand, if another soul wishes for anal sex, he will find a boy, graced with eternal youth and appearing like sprinkled pearls, ready to satisfy carnal lust.
Depending on the length of their respective erections, the Paradise’s inhabitants may remain locked with their partners for an indefinite period of time.
And this goes on in an open space, where God appears every now and then to witness his beloved Muslim men’s performance. Aroused by unending erotic scenes, celibate Isa must also be enjoying uninterrupted sex either with the houris or with the boys to compensate for what he had missed during his short stay on earth.
Copulations over, both the houri and the boy turn virgins once again, ready to serve those men who may wish to have them without a moment’s notice.
Since pious Muslim men – – and their number is huge- – avoid excessive and entertaining sex in their ephemeral lives, the sight of most of their brethren engaging themselves, before their eyes, in sex in a large group will not appear to them like an orgy. Instead, it would appear to them as being another pious act in Paradise; its methodology, composition of partners and duration having been determined by God himself.
Muhammad’s concept on homosexual bliss his followers are supposed to have in their next life prompted Abdel Hamid Kisk, a blind preacher of Egypt, to tell his audience that “Muslims who entered paradise would enjoy eternal erections and the company of young boys draped in earrings and necklaces.” Some of the Ulemas, the religious scholars at al-Azhar University, the Egyptian government’s seat of Islamic learning, disagreed. “Yes,” they said, men in paradise would have erections, but merely protracted, not perpetual (Judith Miller, God Has Ninety-Nine Names, p. 26).
Those scholars, however, did not dispute the possibility of pederasty in Paradise.
Convinced fully that God could not have said or prescribed all the licentious acts for Muslims to enjoy in Paradise, we are of the opinion that all those statements came from Muhammad himself. He used God as a shield all the times to make his nonsensical and perverted statements efficacious. Where he felt necessary, he intertwined God’s existence with that of his own. Those statements, which have God and Muhammad jointly proclaiming certain orders or decrees (33:36 et al), should suffice to prove our claim. In the backdrop of our stated position, we have, in some places, substituted the Quranic words “Lord” or God by the word “Muhammad” in order to restore relevancy to the matters or issues under our discussion.
Muhammad’s mere interaction with other females evoked his wives’ wrath, even after he had become sexually dysfunctional. The following incidence illustrates the intensity of their distrust in their husband.
One day, Muhammad was in Hafsah’s room with Maria Qibtia, the slave-girl, given to him as a present by the ruler of Alexandria. Returning unexpectedly, she found them together (see Muhammad Marmaduke Pickthall, The Glorious Koran, p. 405, R. V. C. Bodley, op. cit. p. 266 & N. J. Dawood, op. cit. p. 398). Dismayed, she asked him what he was doing in her room with a slave-girl. He replied: “Be quite! I swear in the name of God that I shall never see her again. But whatever you know about me and her, you must not tell anyone else.”(Dr. Humayun Azad, Nari {Woman}, p. 77. He has a slightly different account on their togetherness).
Her anger inflamed, perhaps, by the disclosure of Maria’s pregnancy as well as by his casual dismissal of the affair, Hafsah narrated her conversation with Muhammad to Aisha. Both of them confronted him, demanding an explanation of his conduct as well as of what he had told Hafsah about his having a child from the slave girl. Unashamedly, he tried, in vain, to calm the infuriated and shrieking women with repeated promises not to be with her again. The women would not believe him and kept on clamoring like a band of maniacs. Finally, Muhammad cracked up.
“Hell is inhabited by women!” he cried and added: “You women are more contemptuous of God than me. I shall not visit you for a month!” and then he stormed out of Hafsah’s cabin.
Though Muhammad had promised not to be with Maria again to please his wives, but soon he realized that by not having a relationship with her, he was going to lose his claim on her child. To grant obviation to himself from his promise to Hafsah, he declared:
“Prophet, why do you prohibit that {Maria} which God has made lawful to you in seeking to please your wives? God is forgiving and merciful. God has given you absolution from such oaths. God is your Master. He is the Omniscient One, the Wise one.
When the Prophet confided a secret {i.e. Maria’s child} to one of his wives {Hafsah}; and she disclosed it {to Aisha} and God informed him {Muhammad} of this, he made known one part of it and said nothing about the other. And when he acquainted her {Hafsah} with it she said: “who told you this?” He {Muhammad} replied: “The Wise One, the All Knowing, told me.”
If you two {Hafsah and Aisha} turn to God in repentance (for your hearts have sinned?) you shall be pardoned; but if you conspire against him {Muhammad}, know that God is his protector, and Gabriel, and the righteous among the faithful. The angels too are his helpers.
It may well be that, if he divorce you, his Lord will give him in your place better wives than yourselves, submissive to God and full of faith, devout, penitent, and given to fasting; both formerly wedded and virgins.”(66:1-5).
We note that the references to what God had supposedly told Muhammad about his domestic problem; what he hid from one of his wives and her response to God’s disclosure are obscure (N. J. Dawood, op. cit. p. 398).
The language of the declaration makes it clear that the incident of Maria had not remained confined to Muhammad and to his two wives only. Rather, it seems to have spread to his entire harem, making it impossible for him to contain their revolt. It also makes it known to us that Muhammad’s wives were in the habit of disobeying him. Furthermore, they were not used to observing the basic rituals of Islam, such as praying and giving alms. He admonished them in the past for their shortcomings, but it seems, they did not pay him heed, and continued to live and do things in manners that suited their fancies and characters.
Before the showdown that took place between Muhammad and his wives on the questions of Maria and her child, he had tried various means to bring them under his control. He cajoled them; he implored them to act like a prophet’s wives (33:32); he demanded of them to stay home quietly and not to make a dazzling display of themselves (33:33) in order to avoid drawing to themselves the attention of lurking lovers; he instructed them to establish regular prayers, to practice charity, to obey him and to recite what he taught them about his Signs and his Wisdom (33:34). When all the above failed, he even threatened them with a double punishment that would await them in their next life, should they continued to disobey him with their guilty conducts (33:30).
Nothing seems to have changed his wives’ conducts. He used the threat of divorce as the last resort, knowing that it would be effective at least in two ways:
Aisha was the daughter of Abu Bakr, while Hafsah was Omar’s daughter. Both those men aspired to achieve power, wealth and fame after their son-in-law’s death. Consequently, they always supported him even on those matters, which other considered false and untenable. Muhammad knew their state of mind. He also knew that in his dispute with his wives, they would not support their daughters. Instead, they would support him in order to maintain the congeniality of their relationship. He was right, and his fathers-in-law came to his aid.
Upon hearing Muhammad’s threat of divorce, both Abu Bakr and Umar approached their daughters. They chastised them for disobeying their husbands. They also made it clear to them that should their husband really carry out his threat, they would not have any support from them, nor would they get shelter in their homes after being divorced.
Muhammad’s trick worked this time. Both his wives weighed in the consequences of a divorce. With their own eyes, they saw the despicable lives that the divorcees lived. They also visualized the difficulties that they would have to endure after being divorced by their highly vindictive husband.
Bereft of parental support and the consequential prospects of a difficult and uncertain life after divorce, Muhammad’s helpless wives had no option but to cave in to his demands. Following their surrender to their husband, they lived in the manner he wanted them to live; they breathed the air he wanted them to breathe and they lived on what he gave them to support their lives (33:51). They also lived their lives, until his death in 632 A.D., without enjoying the pleasures of sex and motherhood. Much before he was able to saddle his rebellious wives, he made various laws that favored only his whims and lust. In doing so, he paid no consideration to those who were likely to be his victims. Through one such law or decree, he ordained for himself:
“Prophet, We have made lawful to you the wives whom you have granted dowries and the slave girls whom God has given you as booty; the daughters of your paternal and maternal uncles and of your paternal and maternal aunts who fled with you; and any believing woman who gives herself to the Prophet and whom the Prophet wishes to take in marriage. This privilege is yours alone, being granted to no other believer. We well know the duties We have imposed on the faithful concerning their wives and slave girls. We grant you this privilege so that there should be no difficulty for you. God is forgiving and merciful”(33:50).
The pagans, we believe, married their cousins, but they abhorred the idea of having sex with them without binding themselves together in marital knots. Muhammad flaunted this requirement of decency and had sex with his cousins without marrying them. Frowned upon and criticized by the pagans for his illegitimate and unethical behavior, he retaliated by decreeing what appears to be a license for him to undertake open acts of fornication. Nature eventually reacted to his excesses; it turned his tool of excessive vigor and prowess into a useless lump of flesh.
CHILDREN
Opinions vary on the number of Muhammad’s legitimate children. The commonly held belief is that he had seven children with Khudeija, his first wife. They were Qasim, Tayyab, Taher, Zainab, Rokeya, Umm Kulthum and Fatima. All his daughters lived long, but none of his sons survived beyond their infancy. Why they died so young, or what had caused them death, remains shrouded in secrecy. Historians should focus some of their attention on this intriguing matter so that the students of Islamic History could put to rest their suspicion, which surrounds the death, in infancy, of all of Muhammad’s male descendents.
We believe that had one of his legitimate sons survived him, he would not only have inherited most of Muhammad’s wealth, his followers would also have turned him into a highly venerated spiritual leader. Were those factors responsible for their death are something that we cannot pass our judgment on, however, we hope that the future investigative historians would dig out the truth and lay it bare for everyone to draw their own conclusions.
Muhammad’s eldest daughter, Zainab, was married to Abu Aass. Rokeya and Umm Kulthum, his second and third daughters, were married respectively to Othba and Otabaya, two sons of his uncle, Abu Lahab. When Muhammad began preaching Islam, Abu Lahab and his wife, Umm Jamil, became his inveterate enemies. In order to punish him, they forced their sons to repudiate their wives, causing the aggrieved Muhammad to express his anger in a malediction against Abu Lahab and his wife in the words recorded in the Quran (Sura 111, titled Abu Lahab, the Father of Flame).
After their divorce, Muhammad gave Rokeya in marriage to Othman Ibn Affan, his companion and confidante. She died in Madina after her return from Abyssinia, following the battle of Badr. Othman subsequently married Umm Kulthum, his sister-in-law.
Following the battle of Badr, Abu Bakr and Omar, Muhammad’s elderly fathers-in-law, sought Fatima, his youngest daughter, who was about twenty years of age, in marriage. He refused their solicitations, and arranged her marriage to his cousin Ali who was one of the first persons to embrace Islam after Muhammad had begun its preaching. In spite of Ali being a poor man, Muhammad decided to marry off his daughter with a lavishness that was hitherto unknown to the people of Madina. With this ambition in mind, he slaughtered a ram; supplementing it with grain donated by the local people, he prepared a feast for the entire population of the city. People, who attended the occasion, confessed later that they had never before seen its equal anywhere in their entire land.
The responsibility for preparing the nuptial bed in the house of the bridegroom fell to the stepmother, Aisha who then was barely eleven years old. She had some soft sand collected from the river, and scattering it on the earthen floor, she covered it with sheepskin. Placing on top of it a pillow of leather stuffed with palm-fibre, she completed the grand nuptial bed to the admiration of all who happened to see such a rare display for the first time in their life.
MUHAMMAD’S DEATH
After Muhammad returned to Madina, upon completing his last pilgrimage to Mecca in 632 A.D., he issued orders for assembling of an army to go on an expedition to Syria. When a powerful army had been collected, he appointed Osama, a twenty-year son of Zaid, as its commander. Muhammad bade it farewell on a mission that was destined by circumstances to remain unaccomplished during his lifetime.
On the eve of the day on which he had dispatched Osama to Syria, Muhammad suffered a violent headache. He attributed the pain to the lingering effects of the poison given to him by a Jew of Khaybar. The agony was accompanied by vertigo, as well as delirium, which seemed to have been a part of all of his paroxysms.
When he felt slightly better, he retired to Aisha’s apartment to tell her about his illness. It so happened that Aisha herself was suffering from a headache that day. On entering her room, he heard her moaning, “Oh, my head!”
“Nay, Aisha,” said Muhammad, “it is my head!” Having said so, he looked at her searchingly, seeking some sign of mortal sickness in her face; finding none, he said to the girl, “I wished that you died whilst yet I was alive, that I might ask forgiveness for thee and bury thee” (Martin Lings, op. cit. p. 338) Aisha retorted, “Yes, I know what you wish. You wish that I should die so that you could bring in a new wife in my place” (Gulam Mustafa, op. cit. p. 259). Amused by Aisha’s teasing, Muhammad settled down in her room.
Muhammad’s headache intensified, and on the second day he developed fever and a serious pain in his stomach. After finding some relief, he was aided in going to the mosque, which was adjacent to his residence. Here he seated himself on the pulpit, he addressed the congregation on certain issues. In his final remarks, he asked, “Is there anyone from whom I have taken something and not paid it back?” Let him come forward and be identified,” At this, a man from the throng reminded him of an unpaid debt of three dinars of silver he owed him. Muhammad instantly paid back the loan, with interest (Washington Irving, op. cit. pp.190-191).
If the story of payment of interest on his debt, as told, were to be accepted as being true, in that event, we must point out that Muhammad had done so in violation of his own doctrine (2:275), which forbade usury. Within its purview also falls the debtor who pays interest on a loan. Of course, Muhammad was a special person and he did not have to live by his own rules or doctrines. Dictators never make rules for themselves; they make them for their subjects only.
After a few days of intolerable suffering from great pain and dementia, Muhammad breathed his last on Monday, June 8, 632 A.D (Philip K. Hitti, op. cit. p. 119).
According to one Muslim account, Muhammad was inflicted by the black magic of a Jew and his daughter. Under its impact, he remained almost insane until about the time of his death. His sufferings intensified with the onset of severe headache. Under intolerable conditions, he ran from place to place, in search of relief, but he found none.
Eventually, he found relief in his own revelations. It consisted of eleven verses, invocations or statements. Through them, he sought refuge in the Lord alone (not Lord and him) from the mischief of his creation; from the mischief of the night’s darkness; from the mischief of the conjuring witches; from the mischief of the envier; from the mischief of slinking prompter who whispers in the hearts of men as well as from jinn (Suras 113 & 114). Eleven invocations removed eleven spells of black magic. Removal of the evil’s effect from his body made him recover from his illness for a brief period of time. He fell sick again and died.
Whatever was the cause of his death, his departure ended a long period of tyranny. His death freed his wives from his bondage; it gave a sigh of relief to the pagans who he forced to abandon their ancestral faith and it also removed the shadow of his omnipresent sword from the heads of the Jews. On the flipside, he left behind a set of religious doctrines, which have been impacting the lives of a vast number of his followers even after his death some 1400 years ago. While some of his teachings have proven instrumental in crippling the lives of many of his own followers, others have been helping them to create schism and hatred in those humans who follow different philosophies of life. Allah-o-Akbar, essentially a Muslim war cry, still turns many Muslims engaged in battles, interfaith riots and sectarian conflicts into ferocious animals; alleged support given in the past by angels to the warring Muslims against the infidels drive small and weaker Islamic States to challenge the combined might of the world’s all industrialized nations; murder of the Jews by Muhammad and his hateful teaching against them (5:54) still generate fiery desire in most of the Muslims the elimination of all Jews from the face of planet earth and his call to kill the pagans whenever and wherever they are found (59:5) is a constant source of inspiration for many of his followers to engage themselves in the murder of all the Hindus of the world. His belligerent teachings, as Bernard Lewis has pointed out in his book, “The Crisis of Islam,” are considered by many Muslims to be a duty for them to “destroy the entire world before their apocalyptic design of restoring the Islamic caliphate can be realized.”
Terrorists come in all forms – whether Catholic in Northern Ireland, Christian in the USA (Timothy McVeigh, the Cubana bombers for example), Tamil in Sri Lanka, Muslim in Palestine…. the list is long.
Hello brother don’t say anything without knowledge of any field… My kind advise is to study quran and then say…. if ur mind say like this means k…..
Your religion is ur’s and our religion(muslium) is our’s……..
quran(109:6):
I’m a Muslim and i think it is a stereotypical for them to say Muslim and Islam are terrorists! And Muslim and Islam are the same thing. I was born a Muslim so i know better. Not being “rude” or anything but i’m just tired and putting up with this non sense! You guy have your own freedom to worship and wear what you want? right? So why can’t we ?! I don’t see why your making a big deal just because we don’t worship Jesus as God. We believe one God, Allah . And if you still can’t deal with that then that’s your total lost.
*Facedesk*
And, here we have once more a typical mainstream controlled redneck AMERICAN, folks…
I asked a question why is the Holy book of the -the Quaran….yes is happening , ppl are reading this ..and actually believe . 30 or more virgins are waiting for them…if you blow yourself up , into a million pieces …AND PARADISE AWAITS U !!! …I think earth is paradise …and GOD ..does not take well to ..SUICIDE AND MURDER …HE BURNS THEM ..last time i read a Bible ..You men who follow this ….brainwash ..you can 40 virgins here ..can u not ..no you cant ..because the Karon..is against .more then one wife ..AND GOD WHEN NEVER ..ALLOW THE MOTHER OF HIS CHILD ..TO BE TREATED ..the way women are treated in the MuSLIM faith..I dont even want to call it that !!!!…..THis book has destroyed lives ..inocent boys …exploding all over this beautiful paridise ..that was given to us ..and a Dictater took over and changed all the meaning ..to this HOLY BOOK ..YES A BOOK !!!!!….Do u really think GOD IS treating women , with such disrespect ..that he would let you rape 40 virgins…WOMEN !!! his children , his sons and daughters …..hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
nazar- you are mutilating the English language as Muslims did the twin towers. “Muslimsare” all good people and “humanbeing”? Perhaps to Islam they are.
hate is hate.
oi mate it wasnt da muslims….it wa da jews n i’ll prove it 2 ya soon
Good idea, fight hate with hate. Grow up.
YES
THERE IS NO DIPLOMATIC APPEASEMENT FOR ISLAMIC JIHAD, IT ONLY UNDERSTANDS ONE THING, THE BULLET, I FOR ONE, AM MORE THAN HAPPY TO OBLIGE.
Then you are not different from them at all. If Islam means ‘surrender to God’ you are surrendering to their ‘GOD’. That made me realize that their God wanted terror and war for his followers.
please its extremly insulting when you say “”their god” we all share the same God .. and the fact that you can isolate those followers of islam judging as a whole by the actions of individuals who are unfortuantly insane… welll it shows the narrow mindedness that is shared by most westeners.. i am an american born and raised in the usa… even more so than most as i share The natice american culture who are the true americans of our country. But besides that point, learn to be open minded and not judge a good 1/4 of the human population by others actions…. its sad really and teaches our younger generation how to hate and not spread love and peace.
We do not all share the “same God.” If you read the writings of the the Bible and the Qur’an they are VERY different and often contradict each other which is why there are two religions and two different books.
Open mindedness seems more and more a euphemism for stupidity and inability to express discernment. Making an informed judgment call is not narrow minded it is evidence of a healthy and well exercised mind for someone who has developed a solid world outlook.
Also for the record if most “westerner” are “narrow minded” could you please explain to everyone why the west has developed into the apex of civilization as we know it while the middle east (and most Islamic nations) have remained stagnate societies? Say what you will but the state of our people speak volumes for the progression of our beliefs.
Well said, Joe Bloc.
HEY DUDE THESE BOOKS are sended by same god u know one god only control whole world not 50 40 so on ! no one nows which is real one so we should not blame particular religion if thts r god , god will punish sooooooooooooo alllllllllll the peeps commenting mind u r tongue on every religion kindly behave like a god made creature HUMAN not like etc……..
kindly do this god might give a heaven FOREVER !!!!!
There’s crazy people in every religion and culture. It’s actually the American gov. and mass media that’s making them the enemy. We need an excuse to go over to the middle east for a number of things on gov.s agenda including opium( 80% worlds opium is from afghanistan). 9-11 was set up from gov. ONE JET BRINGING DOWN A SKYSCRAPER TO RUBBLE?!?!?! Come on people think and research for yourselves instead of soaking in all the BS from the mass media. Control through chaos.
Jeff,
I respect you man. All these people they need to go do a little bit more research. They should try to learn about these whole lotta bunch of things that has been bringing corruption into this world of ours and has blinded us from the truth about the past; Illuminati, Free-masons, Behemoth, New World Order, Satanism, Mind-Control, Skull and Bones, Rockefeller Royal Family, The Knights Templar and etc. They need to open up their eyes and wake up! WAKE UP! WAKE UP!
Sincerely,
Nas
@Jeff
How do you bellieve the towers were distroyed? Do you think they were falling apart so the government put the plans there and killed all those people so they didnt have to pay for them to be fixed? Now they have all this donated money they can use eh?
Anything is possible. Jeff, it is horrifying to feel your view, however, like I said, anything is possible. I don’t fear for myself, I fear for my grand and great grand children, God help them!
a bit harsh, aren’t we, people?
9/11 was a terrible thing and with so many cases of suicidal and bombing and whatnot, people are quick to assume Islam is a religion of terror and all Muslims are suicidal nutjobs.
But hey! Those bombers and terrorists could have been anyone.
Christian, Jew, Buddhist, Atheist, Agnostic and so many more.
American, European, Chinese, Korean, Russian, Australian and sooo many more.
I’m sure there’s more to the reason behind all these meaningless destruction of peace than just religion and race.
So true! I love yoU!!
your not very smart. al qaeda actually took responsibility for the attacks……don’t talk about stuff that you know nothing about. same goes for everyone. there are crazy people in every religion, and every country. you can’t blame the whole country or religion for these crazy people’s acts.
just keep burning the Quran
HEY MIND U R LANGUAGE
U CANT BLAME ONLY PARTICULAR RELIGION FOR IT K U CANT SAY OH MY GOSH!!!!!!!!! WAT KINDA PPL LIKE U !!!!!!!!!
i am promising u ll feel about it on one day…….
i am sure………
after it happens,u feel the power of allah……….
maybe 9/11 was initiated by muslims and terrorist started to fill the golde world-wide, but, why is it when george bush entered iraq no one stated that he was a terrorist… the western world controls media and we portray what we do that is wrong as right, yet when someone does anythig wrong from another culture we point fingers and use words as terroist.
Dont believe the media or people ,
before you make sure .
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If you are muslim , that mean you know the real meaning of happiness .
Ask an experienced , don’t ask a doctor.
– See
– Listen
– Test
to believe ..
Jen, it’s only horrifying when one accuses the American gov of doing horrific things but it’s not horrifying when Muslims are blamed and lump together when terrorist do horrific things. Please remember the “Tuskegee experiment” which lasted from 1932 to 1972 and how the U.S. infected Guatemalans With Syphilis.
It’s funny how certain people want you to let go of the past when it concerns a certain race that committed horrific things but will not let go when it’s of other races.
How is it that the Jews can have a time of remembrance but slavery needs to be forgotten and swept under the rug? Oh yeah, that’s because anything that makes America look honorable can be remembered and honored.
God is all the love, beauty, kindness, compassion and respect for others in this world. Everything good in this world is God.
The devil is all the hate, jealousy, anger, vengeance and wrong doings against one another that stems from the lack of self discipline that’s in this world. All the sorrow bad and evil is of the Devil in this world.
This… is the basis of the teachings of all religions of this world. Know this and get the big picture. Know this and choose the path you wish to follow. Like the man before me said in this blog, “God does not want us to fight over religion.†God does not want us to fight over anything. The biggest fight we have on our hand is human nature. To be a civilized culture is to win that fight.
Please note that the introduction paragraph of this page is insulting to some readers. Thank you for the information but please learn not to use vague sweeping terms as “many Westerners”.
It could be said that “many Westerners” are being force fed this information via media daily, making the terms used in your introduction inherently false.
Perhaps a more accurate phrase would be, “People around the world are taking a closer examination of the Islamic Faith”.
Though the delivery method of how people are being exposed to this information is… sad. (terrorism)
Dear Sir/Mme,
In this article, under the section of “Misuses of Islam and Muslim” which is denoting the usage of the words,says, “You may say that you are interested in the religion of Muslims, but never in the Muslim religion.” However, you do say, “I am interested in the religion of Christians” and you can say, “I am interested in the Christian religion”, as well. I think this is were the misconception of the usage arises. Maybe comparative examples would discern the perceptions on usage like, Christianity vs. Islam and Christian vs. Moslem.
Regards,
You all have it wrong! Muslim, Christianity, Judaism are faith = personal relationship. Islam, Catholicism, Baptist, Messianic are Ideology that people attach to their faith. That is where the beast meets the faith. If people would just stick to their faith and not the Ideology. Only in a perfect world! Until Muslims denounce radical Islam they will be rejected by society for no one knows if they follow radical Islam because Radical Islam teaches to lie to and kill to infidels. Any verse that is quoted out of context misses the whole point of the message of the Qur’an. Nowhere in the Qur’an can be found support for indiscriminate slaughter, the killing of non-combatants, or murder of innocent persons in ‘payback’ for another people’s alleged crimes. Many people do the same with the Bible. Radical Islam is a fact and until we rid the world of this Ideology the free world is not safe. Stand up and say no to Radical Islam! It would help a great deal if the Muslim community would do this!
In All religion, country, community or institution any where you can find a few bad people. So please understand the whole are not like a few.
IN THE HOLY QURAAN, THE ALMIGHTY ALLAH HAS ADDRESSED SOME OF THE PEOPLE AS, PEOPLE OF THE BOOK, BANI ISRAEL, AND ………YAHUD WHO SAY THAT UZAIR IS SON OF GOD.
BUT IN THE PRESENT TIME, THE PEOPLE WHO CALL THEMSELVES AS YAHUDI, THEY HAVE NO SUCH BELIEF NOR DO THE SCRIPTURES SPEAK ABOUT YAHUD WHO SAID THAT UZAIR IS SON OF GOD.
SO WHO WERE THE YAHUD, WHAT WAS THE NAME OF THE RELIGION WHICH WAS PROPAGATED BY THE PROPHESTS FROM ABRAHAM TO JESUS, AND WHAT WERE THE BELIEVERS OF THE RELIGION CALLED.
EXAMPLE : ISLAM IS THE RELIGION AND MUSLIMS ARE ITS FOLLOWERS.
IN THE HOLY QURAAN, THE ALMIGHTY ALLAH HAS ADDRESSED SOME OF THE PEOPLE AS, PEOPLE OF THE BOOK, BANI ISRAEL, AND ………YAHUD WHO SAY THAT UZAIR IS SON OF GOD.
BUT IN THE PRESENT TIME, THE PEOPLE WHO CALL THEMSELVES AS YAHUDI, THEY HAVE NO SUCH BELIEF NOR DO THE SCRIPTURES SPEAK ABOUT YAHUD WHO SAID THAT UZAIR IS SON OF GOD.
SO WHO WERE THE YAHUD, WHAT WAS THE NAME OF THE RELIGION WHICH WAS PROPAGATED BY THE PROPHESTS FROM ABRAHAM TO JESUS, AND WHAT WERE THE BELIEVERS OF THE RELIGION CALLED.
EXAMPLE : ISLAM IS THE RELIGION AND MUSLIMS ARE ITS FOLLOWERS
Islam is a Religion Which Can Give Eternal Salvation
“For he saith, I have heard thee in a time accepted, and in the day of salvation have I succoured thee: behold, now is the accepted time; behold, now is the day of salvation.â€
– II Corinthians 6:2
* Islam – A Way to Heaven?
* How Everyone – Muslim or Otherwise – Can Receive Eternal Life
Perhaps the most important question of all, then, is this: Does Islam offer a true hope of heaven to its followers? Can following the teachings of Mohammed save a person’s soul? Are the over one billion Muslims in the world following “another way” to God, or are they treading a false path leading only to hell?
Islam – A Way to Heaven?
Islam cannot save a person. How could it? The reasonable question to ask is: Would God be impressed with the works or rituals that man performs? If one is inclined to answer this question in the affirmative, then why would they think this? Why would we think that the pitiful offerings that we can give to God would be enough to earn us a spot in heaven? The short and simple answer to this is that our works cannot get us into heaven. However, this is what Islam essentially teaches. Like every other religion on earth aside from biblical Christianity, Islam teaches that certain works and rituals are needed before a person can gain entry into Paradise (or whatever the desired end result of the particular religion may be). Islam is essentially a works-based religion that views man’s deeds and religious rituals as competent to earn merit and favor from God. This is seen in the Qur’an,
“Therefore stand firm (in the straight Path) as thou art commanded,- thou and those who with thee turn (unto Allah); and transgress not (from the Path): for He seeth well all that ye do. And incline not to those who do wrong, or the Fire will seize you; and ye have no protectors other than Allah, nor shall ye be helped. And establish regular prayers at the two ends of the day and at the approaches of the night: For those things, that are good remove those that are evil: Be that the word of remembrance to those who remember (their Lord): And be steadfast in patience; for verily Allah will not suffer the reward of the righteous to perish.” (Surah 11:112-115)
Hence, if a person does good works, these will remove their evil works, and earn them the “reward of the righteous”. Basically, the Islamic doctrine of salvation says that to be accepted of Allah, a person needs to at least try to fulfill the five pillars of the Islamic faith, which are said to be able to give a Muslim righteousness before Allah.
* 1. Declaring and believing the Shahada or Creed: A person must declare “Ashhadu An La Ilaha Illa Allah Wa Ashhadu Anna Muhammadan Rasulu Allah”, which is to say, “I believe there is no god but Allah, and I believe in Mohammed the messenger of Allah.” This is perhaps the bedrock belief in Islam. Without reciting this, a person is not considered to be a Muslim, and is still a kufr (an unbeliever). Likewise, when a person says it intentionally, they are considered to be a Muslim, and reciting this phrase is the essential step in a conversion to Islam by someone who is not a born Muslim. This creed will often be repeated by Muslims constantly, and dying Muslims will recite it in hopes of attaining entry into Allah‘s Gardens.
* 2. Observing daily prayers (Salat) and attending the Friday public services. Prayer is a very important ritual to devout Muslims, who will face toward Mecca and prostrate themselves and recite prayers to Allah fives times in a day: upon rising in the morning (fajr), noon (zuhr), mid-afternoon (‘asr), sunset (maghrib), and before retiring for the night (‘ishha’). The prayers, as found in the ahadith, are done very mechanically, and it is prescribed for them to be performed a certain way. Devout Muslims will attend Friday worship services in a mosque that consist of prayer and a sermon from the Qur‘an by a Muslim religious leader such as the imam of the mosque, or a visiting scholar of the Qur‘an (alim).
* 3. Fasting during Ramadan (Sawm). Ramadan is considered a holy month to Muslims, and for the entire month, the practice is to abstain from all pleasures during the period between sunrise and sunset. During the day, devout Muslims will not eat, drink, smoke, or engage in sexual activities. The concept underlying the Ramadan fast is for Muslims to develop self-control, devote themselves to Allah, and learn to identify with the less fortunate.
* 4. The giving of alms (Zakat). Muslims are generally required to give one-fortieth (2.5%) of their wealth to the needy and less fortunate, though this amount can be increased depending on the amount of a person’s assets, and the means by which they acquire them. This originally was voluntary, but has evolved over time into a religious obligation. Sometimes, the zakat as an obligation is distinguished from purely voluntary giving, known as sadaqah.
* 5. The pilgrimage to Mecca (Hajj). At least once in their lifetime, devout Muslims are required to make the pilgrimage to Mecca, if it within their financial and physical capabilities. This ritual is considered very necessary for gaining of salvation in Islam, and ignoring it is considered a very serious sin, a form of rebellion against Allah. At Mecca, Muslims will engage in a prescribed set of rituals and ceremonies centered about the Ka’bah, a large shrine in Mecca which was probably introduced into Islam as its sacred shrine sometime in the late 7th or early 8th centuries, and which was initially a site of pagan worship for the area surrounding Mecca in pre-Islamic times. The rituals involved with the performance of the hajj include circling the Ka’bah, prostration toward the central sanctuary, visiting the sacred well of Zam-Zam, and throwing stones at the devil, in a valley site near the Ka’bah.
To this list of five pillars, some Muslims, especially those of the Kharijite sect, add jihad as a sixth pillar. It has been shown above that there is definite quranic and hadithic support for the notion that Mohammed taught salvation through martyrdom in holy war. Further, the general trend in Muslim jurisprudence throughout the Islamic period has been that jihad is a necessary and violent act carried out against infidels to bring them under the domination of Islam. The place of jihad can be seen in the importance that many Muslims attach to shaheed, martyrdom that occurs while fighting for Islam or because of one’s Islamic faith. The added benefit of multitudes of perpetually regenerating virgins in Paradise has, obviously, also served to increase the vigor with which many young Muslim men have devoted themselves to this aspect of Islam.
Additional to the stated “pillars” of Islam, it is also incumbent upon a Muslim to believe certain basic doctrines. Most central of these to Islam, perhaps, is the doctrine of tawhid, or the oneness of Allah. This doctrine states that there are no other gods besides Allah, and denies the association of other deities with him, a practice called shirk. This doctrine forms part of the basis for the shahada. It is also incumbent upon Muslims to try to lead lives in which they genuinely seek forgiveness (istighfar) from Allah, and which are limited by the bounds set by Allah (taqwa). Indeed, Islam has a complex hierarchy of categories into which each action that a Muslim does will fall, according to the various interpretations held by different schools of fiqh, or Islamic law:
* Fardh – Actions that are required of Muslims, the performance of which counts as a good deed, and the lack thereof is considered a sin.
* Mandub – Actions that are recommended, but not required. Doing them is considered to be a good deed, but not doing these is not considered a sin.
* Mubah – Actions that are left up to individual discretion. They are not, in and of themselves, considered to be good or bad, though the motives and intentions of the one doing them may move their status up or down.
* Makruh – Actions that are not recommended for Muslims, but not absolutely forbidden. Doing them is not necessarily considered to be a sin, but not doing them is counted as a good deed.
* Haram – Actions that are prohibited in Islam. Doing these is a sin, while not doing them is considered a good work.
The traditions tell us a lot about what a Muslim has to do to earn Paradise. Most basically, if one dies while worshipping Allah alone apart from any others, even if they are guilty of adultery, they are guaranteed Paradise1. Similarly, doing good to their own kin, paying the zakat, associating none with Allah, and worshipping Allah will earn Paradise2. Praying, believing in Allah, and fasting at Ramadan help as well3. The traditions also show that honesty is certainly the best policy, since truthfulness leads to righteousness, which leads to Paradise4. Knowing all 99 names of Allah will also earn a Muslim salvation5. Guaranteeing the chastity of both one’s tongue and one’s private parts will earn Paradise6. Having three children who die before they reach puberty will rescue a person’s soul from hellfire, provided that they have “resigned themselves to the will of God”7, though another tradition is more lenient and guarantees Paradise after only two lost children8. And of course, dying in jihad guarantees the holy warrior an eternity of bliss in Allah’s gardens9. Before Muslim believers enter Paradise, the traditions record a necessary (though strange) sort of purgatory, whereby believers will,
“….retaliate upon each other for the injustices done among them in the world, and when they get purified of all their sins, they will be admitted into Paradise.”10
As we can see, the system is complicated, but yet can be boiled down to one simple point – good works (at least as defined by the Islamic system) gets you to Paradise, while doing evil does not. But even then, the traditions present a contradiction. For while many traditions, as seen above, suggest that good works do get a soul to Paradise, at the same time, tradition also denies this, saying that none can enter Paradise due to his good deeds11. All these good works, and yet the outcome still, per the very same set of traditions, remains hanging in the balance. Truly, Muslims must be willing to ask themselves the question, “Wherefore do ye spend money for that which is not bread? and your labour for that which satisfieth not?” (Isaiah 55:2a)
How Everyone – Muslim or Otherwise – Can Receive Eternal Life
A devout Muslim certainly will be kept very busy in his or her religious life! Can this help to save them, though?
“Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost.” (Titus 3:5)
“For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.” (Ephesians 2:8-9)
“For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness. Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt. But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.” (Romans 4:3-5)
It is not the works that man does that can save him, but rather it is of the grace and mercy of God who sent His Son Jesus Christ to die and shed His blood for us, and who rose again from the dead, gaining the victory of that most feared of man’s enemies – death. Only by faith in Him can you be saved, and this after He calls us and gives us the conviction to recognize that we are sinners in need of salvation. Repentance, that change of attitude and heart towards our sin that must lead to a willingness to allow God to change our behavior and lives, must be had before we are in a position to come to God for salvation.
“Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord.” (Acts 3:19)
If we refuse to accept that we are sinners who cannot provide our own way to God, then we cannot be saved nor enter into the kingdom of God. There is nothing; no ritual, no ceremony, no pilgrimage, which human beings can perform and earn a spot in heaven.
“But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.” (Isaiah 64:6)
The Bible tells us that our efforts at producing our own righteousness are unworthy and flawed. Because of our sin, we are unclean things in the sight of God, and our works and rituals are worthless and filthy. This applies to all of us, too.
“As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one….For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God.” (Romans 3:10,23)
This includes that supreme example of goodness and piety for every Muslim all over the world – the prophet of Islam. Mohammed, as we saw, was a sinner. The Qur’an says as much. “Lo! We have given thee (O Muhammad) a signal victory, That Allah may forgive thee of thy sin that which is past and that which is to come, and may perfect His favour unto thee, and may guide thee on a right path.” (Surah 48:1-2, Pickthal translation) Further, in Surah 40:55, “Then have patience (O Muhammad). Lo! the promise of Allah is true. And ask forgiveness of thy sin, and hymn the praise of thy Lord at fall of night and in the early hours.” (Pickthal translation) The Qur’an recognizes that Mohammed himself was a sinner in need of forgiveness.
So, if all people are sinners, and works, rituals, and the like cannot save them, what can? As stated above, the only way to salvation is by placing your faith in Jesus Christ as your Savior, repenting of your sins and trusting Him to wash your sins away through His own blood that was shed to forgive sin.
“Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.” (John 14:6)
Salvation is only through the Lord Jesus Christ. No works can replace this,
“Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber….I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved…” (John 10:1,9)
Jesus, the sinless Son of God presented both in the Bible and the Qur’an, who would not lie, said that He was the way to enter into heaven. If you are trying to get in by keeping the rules and regulations of Islam (or any other, for that matter), you are trying to climb up some another way, and will not be able to successfully enter in.
“But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.” (Romans 5:8)
This is the love of God. We, who are sinners by nature and by practice, and who justly deserve the wrath of God by burning in hell for eternity, are freely given the opportunity to escape that fate, without work on our part, and without it costing us a thing. Again, I quote,
“For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: It is the gift of God. Not of works, lest any man should boast.” (Ephesians 2:8-9)
Salvation is by grace, through faith, His gift to us. We don’t need to work, we only need to believe and trust in Him for our salvation. Doing good works and living a moral life cannot save. In fact, human beings are not even ABLE to live a truly moral life unless they have the Spirit of God residing in them, whom we receive when we trust on Christ for salvation. Think about it – no matter how moral you may appear to other people, you know deep down inside that there is some sin which you have in your life which will condemn you to hell. Why try to strive to earn a salvation which cannot be earned? Jesus said,
“Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.” (Matthew 11:28)
Lay the heavy burden of your sins and guilt at His feet, and take Him as your Savior, and be saved!
End Notes
(1) – Sahih al-Bukhari, Vol. 2, Bk. 23, No. 329
(2) – Sahih Muslim, Bk. 1, No. 11
(3) – Sahih al-Bukhari, Vol. 4, Bk. 52, No. 48
(4) – Sahih al-Bukhari, Vol. 8, Bk. 73, No. 116
(5) – Sahih al-Bukhari, Vol. 3, Bk. 50, No. 894
(6) – Sahih al-Bukhari, Vol. 8, BK. 82, No. 799
(7) – Sahih al-Bukhari, Vol. 2, Bk. 23, No. 340
(8) – Sahih Muslim, Bk. 32, No. 6367
(9) – Sahih al-Bukhari, Vol. 4, Bk. 52, No. 46 etc.
(10) – Sahih al-Bukhari, Vol. 3, Bk. 43, No. 620, see also Vol. 8, Bk. 76, No. 542
(11) – Sahih al-Bukhari, Vol. 7, Bk. 70, No. 577
Twisting verses from others’ books and quoting them out of context is unfortunate and dishonest. Please go back and learn objectively about Islam, or better still seek a learned person to guide you through the various interpretations and meanings of Quran and Sayings of the Prophet, for translation alone can be misleading.
Great job in presenting the argument a little hard to follow your transitions and I would have used an easier to read translation on some of the verses but awesome post!
Thank you for sharing what true salvation is. Only the blood of Jesus Christ can cleanse our sins and only belief in Him can bring us into a relationship with God. Christianity is not a religion, it’s a relationship with Jesus and knowing and believing that He died for ours sins and rose again by the Holy Spirit. Praise the LORD!
The Bible is a great holy book. The Qur’an is the dictation of an illiterate man according to the History of Islam) .
If you compare between the life of Jesus and Islam Leader there are very different with each other. Jesus is very best leader and Superior in all over the world. Unfortunately Muslims are not accepted the truth. They ignore all history and imposed blame on the Christianity.
I absolutely agree!
MUHAMMAD’S OWN’S WORDS
was written to expose what Islam’s founder had to say about himself, his ambition, religion, and god. Before you use or criticize these quotes, please read this overview from the author. For those who are serious about the study of Islam, be sure to read the source material appendix, entitled Islam’s Dark Past.
Terrorism
Bukhari:V4B52N220 “Allah’s Apostle said, ‘I have been made victorious with terror.'”
Qur’an:8:12 “I shall terrorize the infidels. So wound their bodies and incapacitate them because they oppose Allah and His Apostle.”
Qur’an:8:57 “If you gain mastery over them in battle, inflict such a defeat as would terrorize them, so that they would learn a lesson and be warned.”
Ishaq:326 “If you come upon them, deal so forcibly as to terrify those who would follow, that they may be warned. Make a severe example of them by terrorizing Allah’s enemies.”
Qur’an:8:67 “It is not fitting for any prophet to have prisoners until he has made a great slaughter in the land.”
Ishaq:588 “When the Apostle descends on your land none of your people will be left when he leaves.”
Tabari IX:42 “We have been dealt a situation from which there is no escape. You have seen what Muhammad has done. Arabs have submitted to him and we do not have the strength to fight. You know that no herd is safe from him. And no one even dares go outside for fear of being terrorized.”
Ishaq:326 “Allah said, ‘No Prophet before Muhammad took booty from his enemy nor prisoners for ransom.’ Muhammad said, ‘I was made victorious with terror. The earth was made a place for me to clean. I was given the most powerful words. Booty was made lawful for me. I was given the power to intercede. These five privileges were awarded to no prophet before me.'”
Ishaq:327 “Allah said, ‘A prophet must slaughter before collecting captives. A slaughtered enemy is driven from the land. Muhammad, you craved the desires of this world, its goods and the ransom captives would bring. But Allah desires killing them to manifest the religion.'”
Qur’an:7:3 “Little do you remember My warning. How many towns have We destroyed as a raid by night? Our punishment took them suddenly while they slept for their afternoon rest. Our terror came to them; Our punishment overtook them.”
Ishaq:510 “When the Apostle looked down on Khaybar he told his Companions, ‘O Allah, Lord of the Devils and what into terror they throw, and Lord of the winds and what they winnow, we ask Thee for the booty of this town and its people. Forward in the name of Allah.’ He used to say this of every town he raided.”
Bukhari:V5B59N512 “The Prophet offered the Fajr Prayer [Prayer of Fear] near Khaybar when it was still dark. He said, ‘Allahu-Akbar!’ [Allah is Greatest] Khaybar is destroyed, for whenever we approach a hostile nation to fight, then evil will be the morning for those who have been warned.’ Then the inhabitants came out running on their roads. The Prophet had their men killed; their children and woman were taken as captives.”
Bukhari:V9B87N127 “The Prophet said, ‘I have been given the keys of eloquent speech and given victory with terror.'”
Ishaq:517 “Khaybar was stormed by the Apostle’s squadron, fully armed, powerful and strong. It brought certain humiliation with Muslim men in its midst. We attacked and they met their doom. Muhammad conquered the Jews in fighting that day as they opened their eyes to our dust.”
Tabari VIII:116
Ishaq:511 “So Muhammad began seizing their herds and their property bit by bit. He conquered home by home. The Messenger took some people captive, including Safiyah and her two cousins. The Prophet chose Safiyah for himself.”
Bukhari:V5B59N512 “The Prophet had their men killed, their children and woman taken captive.”
Tabari VIII:129 “After the Messenger had finished with the Khaybar Jews, Allah cast terror into the hearts of the Jews in Fadak when they received news of what Allah had brought upon Khaybar. Fadak became the exclusive property of Allah’s Messenger.”
Tabari VIII:133 “The raiding party went to Tha’labah. One of Muhammad’s slaves, said, ‘Prophet, I know where Tha’labah can be taken by surprise.’ So Muhammad sent him with 130 men. They raided the town and drove off camels and sheep, bringing them back to Medina.”
Tabari VIII:138 “Muhammad carried arms, helmets, and spears. He led a hundred horses, appointing Bahir to be in charge of the weapons and Maslamah to be in charge of the horses. When the Quraysh received word of this, it frightened them.”
Qur’an:33:26 “Allah made the Jews leave their homes by terrorizing them so that you killed some and made many captive. And He made you inherit their lands, their homes, and their wealth. He gave you a country you had not traversed before.”
Qur’an:59:2 “It was Allah who drove the [Jewish] People of the Book from their homes and into exile. They refused to believe and imagined that their strongholds would protect them against Allah. But Allah came at them from where they did not suspect, and filled their hearts with terror. Their homes were destroyed. So learn a lesson, O men who have eyes. This is My warning…they shall taste the torment of Fire.”
Qur’an:33:60 “Truly, if the Hypocrites stir up sedition, if the agitators in the City do not desist, We shall urge you to go against them and set you over them. Then they will not be able to stay as your neighbors for any length of time. They shall have a curse on them. Whenever they are found, they shall be seized and slain without mercy – a fierce slaughter – murdered, a horrible murdering.”
Tabari VIII:143 “In this year a twenty-four man raiding party led by Shuja went to the Banu Amir. He launched a raid on them and took camels and sheep. The shares of booty came to fifteen camels for each man. Also a raid led by Amr went to Dhat. He set out with fifteen men. He encountered a large force whom he summoned to Islam. They refused to respond so he killed all of them.”
Bukhari:V4B52N256 “The Prophet passed by and was asked whether it was permissible to attack infidels at night with the probability of exposing their women and children to danger. The Prophet replied, ‘Their women and children are from them.'”
Tabari IX:20 “The captives of Hunayn, along with their possessions, were brought to the Messenger. He ordered that their captives, animals, and their possessions be taken to Ji’ranah and held there in custody.”
Ishaq:576 “Allah and His servant overwhelmed every coward. Allah honored us and made our religion victorious. We were glorified and destroyed them all. Allah humiliated them in the worship of Satan. By what our Apostle recites from the Book and by our swift horses, I liked the punishment the infidels received. Killing them was sweeter than drink. We galloped among them panting for the spoil. With our loud-voiced army, the Apostle’s squadron advanced into the fray.”
Ishaq:580 “Our strong warriors obey his orders to the letter. By us Allah’s religion is undeniably strong. You would think when our horses gallop with bits in their mouths that the sounds of demons are among them. The day we trod down the unbelievers there was no deviation or turning from the Apostle’s order. During the battle the people heard our exhortations to fight and the smashing of skulls by swords that sent heads flying. We severed necks with a warrior’s blow. Often we have left the slain cut to pieces and a widow crying alas over her mutilated husband. ‘Tis Allah, not man we seek to please.”
Tabari IX:122 “Muhammad sent Uyaynah to raid The Banu Anbar. They killed some people and took others captive. Asma was one of the women taken prisoner.”
Tabari IX:123 “Muhammad sent an expedition to Ghalib and to the land of the Banu Murrah. The raid on Amr and Abi was sent to the valley of Idam. Another by Aslami was sent to Ghabah. And Abd al-Rahman was ordered by the Messenger to lead an army to the seashore.”
Tabari IX:69 “He who believes in Allah and His Messenger has protected his life and possessions from us. As for those who disbelieve, we will fight them forever in the Cause of Allah. Killing them is a small matter to us.”
Bukhari:V5B59N516 “When Allah’s Apostle fought or raided people we raised our voices saying, ‘Allahu-Akbar! Allahu-Akbar! None has the right to be worshipped but Allah.'”
Tabari VII:10 “In Ramadhan, seven months after the Hijrah, Muhammad entrusted a white war banner to Hamzah with the command of thirty Emigrants. Their aim was to intercept a Quraysh caravan.”
Ishaq:281 “The Raid on Waddan was the first Maghazi [invasion]. The Expedition of Harith was second. They encountered a large number of Quraysh in the Hijaz. Abu Bakr composed a poem about the raid: ‘When we called them to the truth they turned their backs and howled like bitches. Allah’s punishment on them will not tarry. I swear by the Lord of Camels [Allah?] that I am no perjurer. A valiant band will descend upon the Quraysh which will leave women husbandless. It will leave men dead, with vultures wheeling round. It will not spare the infidels.'”
Ishaq:285 “Then the Apostle went raiding in the month of Rabi u’l-Awwal making for the Quraysh. Then he raided the Quraysh by way of Dinar.”
Tabari VII:11 “In this year the Messenger entrusted to Sa’d a white war banner for the expedition to Kharrar. Sa’d said, ‘I set out on foot at the head of twenty men. We used to lie hidden by day and march at night, until we reached Kharrar on the fifth morning. The caravan had arrived in town a day before. There were sixty men with it.”
Tabari VII:11 “The Messenger of Allah went out on a raid as far as Waddan, searching for Quraysh.”
Tabari VII:15 “Expeditions Led by Allah’s Messenger: In this year, according to all Sira writers, the Messenger personally led the Ghazwa of Alwa. [A Ghazwa is an Islamic Invasion in Allah’s Cause consisting of an army unit led by the Prophet himself.] He left Sa’d in command of Medina. On this raid his banner was carried by Hamzah. He stayed out for fifteen days and then returned to Medina. The Messenger went on a Ghazwa at the head of two hundred of his companions in October, 623 and reached Buwat. His intention was to intercept a Quraysh caravan with a hundred men and twenty-five hundred camels.”
Ishaq:286 “Meanwhile the Apostle sent Sa’d on the raid of Abu Waqqas. The Prophet only stayed a few nights in Medina before raiding Ushayra and then Kurz.”
Bukhari:V5B57N51 “The Apostle said, ‘Tomorrow I will give the flag to a man whose leadership Allah will use to grant a Muslim victory.”
Bukhari:V5B59N569 “I fought in seven Ghazwat battles along with the Prophet and fought in nine Maghazi raids in armies dispatched by the Prophet.”
Bukhari:V5B57N74 “I heard Sa’d saying, ‘I was the first Arab to shoot an arrow in Allah’s Cause.'”
Bukhari:V5B59N401 “Allah’s Wrath became severe on anyone the Prophet killed in Allah’s Cause.”
Bukhari:V5B59N456 “Muhammad led the Fear Prayer [Allahu Akbar!] with one batch of his army while the other (batch) faced the enemy.”
Bukhari:V5B59N440 “Allah’s Apostle used to say, ‘None has the right to be worshipped except Allah Alone because He honored His Warriors and made His Messenger victorious. He defeated the clans; so there is nothing left.'”
Ishaq:287 “The Muslim raiders consulted one another concerning them. One of the Muslims said, ‘By Allah, if we leave these people alone, they will get into the sacred territory and will be safely out of our reach. If we kill them we will have killed in the sacred month.'”
Tabari VII:19 “They hesitated and were afraid to advance, but then they plucked up courage and agreed to kill as many as they could and to seize what they had with them. Waqid shot an arrow at Amr and killed him. Uthman and al-Hakam surrendered. Then Waqid and his companions took the caravan and the captives back to Allah’s Apostle in Medina. This was the first booty taken by the Companions of Muhammad.”
Ishaq:289 “Our lances drank of Amr’s blood and lit the flame of war.”
Tabari VII:20
Ishaq:287 “Abd Allah told his Companions, ‘A fifth of the booty we have taken belongs to the Apostle.’ This was before Allah made surrendering a fifth of the booty taken a requirement.”
Tabari VII:20
Ishaq:288 “The Quraysh said, ‘Muhammad and his Companions have violated the sacred month, shed blood, seized property, and taken men captive.’ The polytheists spread lying slander concerning him, saying, ‘Muhammad claims that he is following obedience to Allah, yet he is the first to violate the holy month and to kill our people.'”
Ishaq:288 “When the Qur’an:passage concerning this matter was revealed, and Allah relieved Muslims from their fear and anxiety, Muhammad took possession of the caravan and prisoners. The Quraysh sent him a ransom and the Prophet released the prisoners on payment. When the Qur’an:authorization came down to Muhammad, Abd Allah and his Companions were relieved and they became anxious for an additional reward. They said, ‘Will this raid be counted as part of the reward promised to Muslim combatants?’ So Allah sent down this Qur’an: ‘Those who believe and have fought in Allah’s Cause may receive Allah’s mercy.’ Allah made the booty permissible. He divided the loot, awarding four-fifths to the men He had allowed to take it. He gave one-fifth to His Apostle.”
Ishaq:288 “Allah divided the booty stolen from the first caravan after he made spoils permissible. He gave four-fifths to those He had allowed to take it and one-fifth to His Apostle.”
Tabari VII:29
Ishaq:289 “The Apostle heard that Abu Sufyan [a Meccan merchant] was coming from Syria with a large caravan containing their money and their merchandise. He was accompanied by only thirty men.”
Ishaq:289 “Muhammad summoned the Muslims and said, ‘This is the Quraysh caravan containing their property. Go out and attack it. Perhaps Allah will give it to us as prey.”
Tabari VII:29 “Abu Sufyan and the horsemen of the Quraysh were returning from Syria following the coastal road. When Allah’s Apostle heard about them he called his companions together and told them of the wealth they had with them and the fewness of their numbers. The Muslims set out with no other object than Sufyan and the men with him. They did not think that this raid would be anything other than easy booty.”
Bukhari:V5B59N702 “Allah did not admonish anyone who had not participated in the Ghazwa [raid] of Badr, for in fact, Allah’s Apostle had only gone out in search of the Quraysh caravan so that he could rob it. But Allah arranged for the Muslims and their enemy to meet by surprise. I was at the Aqaba pledge with Allah’s Apostle when we gave our lives in submission, but the Badr battle is more popular amongst the people. I was never stronger or wealthier than I was when I followed the Prophet on a Ghazwa.'”
Tabari VII:29 “They did not suppose that there would be a great battle. Concerning this Allah revealed a Qur’an: Qur’an:8:7 ‘Behold! Allah promised you that one of the two parties would be yours. You wished for the unarmed one, but Allah willed to justify His truth according to His words and to cut off the roots of the unbelievers [wipe them out to the last].'”
Tabari VII:29 “When Abu Sufyan heard that Muhammad’s Companions were on their way to intercept his caravan, he sent a message to the Quraysh. ‘Muhammad is going to attack our caravan, so protect your merchandise.’ When the Quraysh heard this, the people of Mecca hastened to defend their property and protect their men as they were told Muhammad was lying in wait for them.”
Ishaq:290 “Some Meccans got up to circumambulate the Ka’aba…. Sitting around the mosque, they wondered why they had allowed this evil rascal to attack their men.”
Ishaq:292 “Setting out in Ramadhan, Muhammad was preceded by two black flags. His companions had seventy camels.”
Tabari VII:38 “I have been informed by authorities that Muhammad set out on 3 Ramadhan at the head of 310 of his companions. The war banner of the Messenger was carried by Ali. The banner of the Ansar was carried by Sa’d.”
Ishaq:293
Tabari VII:30 “The prophet marched forward and spent the night near Badr with his Companions. While the Prophet was standing in prayer [asking Allah to help him steal] some Quraysh water-carriers came to the well. Among these was a black slave. Muhammad’s men seized him and brought him to the Messenger’s bivouac. They ordered him to salute Allah’s Apostle. Then they questioned him about Abu Sufyan. When the slave began to tell them about the protecting force, it was unwelcome news, for the only object of their raid was the caravan.”
Tabari VII:30 “Meanwhile the Prophet was praying, bowing and prostrating himself, and also seeing and hearing the treatment of the slave. They beat him severely and continued to interrogate him but they found that he had no knowledge of what they were looking for.”
Ishaq:294 “The Apostle was afraid the Ansar would not feel obliged to help him fight without the enemy being the aggressor and attacking in Medina. Sa’d said, ‘We hear and obey. We are experienced in war, trustworthy in combat. Allah will let us show you something that will bring you joy. The Apostle was delighted at Sa’d’s words which greatly encouraged him. Muhammad shouted, ‘It is as if I see the enemy lying prostrate.'”
Tabari VII:32 “When the Quraysh advanced, Muhammad threw dust in the direction of their faces, and Allah put them to flight…. The Meccan [merchant] force and the Prophet’s [pirates] met and Allah gave victory to His Messenger, shamed the unbelievers, and satisfied the Muslims’ thirst for revenge.”
Ishaq:297 “When the Apostle saw them he cried, ‘Allah, they called me a liar. Destroy them this morning.'”
Bukhari:V5B59N330
Ishaq:300 “Here is Gabriel holding the rein of a horse and leading the charge. He is equipped with his weapons and ready for the battle. There is dust upon his front teeth.”
Bukhari:V5B59N327 “Gabriel came to the Prophet and said, ‘How do you view the warriors of Badr?’ The Prophet said, ‘I see the fighters as the best Muslims.’ On that, Gabriel said, ‘And so are the Angels who are participating in the Badr battle.'”
Tabari VII:55 “Mihaja, the mawla [slave] of Umar [the future Caliph] was struck by an arrow and killed. He was the first Muslim to die.”
Tabari VII:55 “Allah’s Messenger went out to his men and incited them to fight. He promised, ‘Every man may keep all the booty he takes.’ Then Muhammad said, ‘By Allah, if any man fights today and is killed fighting aggressively, going forward and not retreating, Allah will cause him to enter Paradise.’ Umayr, who was holding some dates in his hand and eating them, said, ‘Fine, fine. This is excellent! Nothing stands between me and my entering Paradise except to be killed by these people!’ He threw down the dates, seized his sword, and fought until he was slain.”
Tabari VII:56 “‘Messenger of Allah, what makes the Lord laugh with joy at his servant?’ He replied, ‘When he plunges his hand into the midst of an enemy without armor.’ So Auf took off the coat of mail he was wearing and threw it away. Then he took his sword and fought the enemy until he was killed.”
Ishaq:301 “Muhammad picked up a handful of pebbles and faced the Quraysh. He shouted, ‘May their faces be deformed!’ He threw the pebbles at them and ordered his companions to attack. The foe was routed. Allah killed Quraysh chiefs and caused many of their nobles to be taken captive. While the Muslims were taking prisoners, the Messenger was in his hut.”
Bukhari:V5B59N290 “The Prophet said, ‘The believers who failed to join the Ghazwa of Badr and those who took part in it are not equal in reward.”
Bukhari:V5B59N333 “Az-Zubair said, ‘I attacked him with my spear and pierced his eye. I put my foot over his body to pull the weapon out, but even then I had to use great force. Later on Allah’s Apostle asked me for that spear and I gave it to him.'”
Ishaq:301 “As the Muslims were laying their hands on as many prisoners as they could catch, the Prophet, saw disapproval in the face of Sa’d. He said, ‘Why are you upset by the taking of captives?’ Sa’d replied, ‘This was the first defeat inflicted by Allah on the infidels. Slaughtering the prisoners would have been more pleasing to me than sparing them.'”
Tabari VII:59 “On the day of Badr I passed Umayyah as he was standing with his son Ali, holding his hand. I had with me some coats of mail which I had taken as plunder. Umayyah said, ‘Abd al-Ilah, would you like to take me as a prisoner? I will be more valuable to you as a captive to be ransomed than the coats of mail that you are carrying.’ I said, ‘Yes. Come here then.’ I flung away the armor and bound Umayyah and his son Ali, taking them with me. Muslims encircled us. Then they restrained us physically. One of the Muslims drew his sword and struck Ali in the leg, severing it so that he fell down. Umayyah gave a scream the like of which I have never heard. I said, ‘Save yourself, for there is no escape for your son. By Allah, I cannot save him from these men.’ Then the Muslims hacked Ali to pieces. Abd al-Rahman used to say, ‘May Allah have mercy on Bial [a slave turned Muslim marauder]! I lost my coats of mail, and he deprived me of my captives.'”
Bukhari:V5B59N297 “The Prophet faced the Ka’aba and invoked evil on the Quraysh people.”
Bukhari: V5B59N397 “Allah’s Apostle raised his head after bowing the first Rak’a of the morning prayer. He said, ‘O Allah! Curse so-and-so and so-and-so.’ After he had invoked evil upon them, Allah revealed: ‘Your Lord will send thousands of angels riding upon chargers sweeping down as a form of good tidings to reassure you that victory comes from Him. He will cut off parts of the unbelievers, overthrow them, and turn them back in frustration. For Allah is forgiving and kind.'”
Ishaq:303 “A cousin and I mounted a hill from which we could overlook Badr and see who would be defeated, so that we could join in the plundering afterwards. I was pursuing one of the Meccan polytheists in order to smite him, when his head suddenly fell off before my sword touched him. Then I knew that someone other than I had killed him.”
Tabari VII:61 “When the Prophet had finished with his enemy, he gave orders that Abu Jahl should be found among the dead. He said, ‘O Allah, do not let him escape!’ The first man who encountered Abu Jahl yelled out and I made him my mark. When he was within my reach, I attacked him and struck him a blow which severed his foot and half his leg. By Allah, when it flew off I could only compare it to a date-stone which flies out of a crusher when it is struck. Then his son hit me on the shoulder and cut off my arm. It dangled at my side from a piece of skin. The fighting prevented me from reaching him after that. I fought the whole day, dragging my arm behind me. When it began to hurt me, I put my foot on it and stood until I pulled it off.'”
Ishaq:304 “Abd Allah bin Mas’ud said, ‘I found Abu Jahl in the throws of death. I put my foot on his neck because he had grabbed me once at Mecca and had hurt me. Then I said, Has Allah disgraced you and put you to shame, O enemy of Allah?’ ‘In what way has he disgraced me?’ he asked. ‘Am I anything more important than a man whom you have killed?'”
Bukhari:V5B59N298 “Abu Jahl said, ‘You should not be proud that you have killed me.'”
Ishaq:304
Tabari VII:62 “I cut off Abu Jahl’s head and brought it to the Messenger. ‘O Allah’s Prophet, this is the head of the enemy of Allah.’ Muhammad said, ‘Praise be to Allah.'”
Ishaq:305 “Ukkasha fought until he broke his sword. He came to the Apostle who gave him a wooden cudgel telling him to fight with that. He brandished it and it became a brilliant weapon. Allah gave him victory while he wielded it. He took that weapon with him to every raid he fought with Allah’s Apostle until he was killed in the rebellion. These were his dying words: ‘What do you think about when you kill people? Are these not men just because they are not Muslims?'”
Ishaq:315 “It was so criminal, men could hardly imagine it. Muhammad was ennobled because of the bloody fighting. I swear we shall never lack soldiers, nor army leaders. Driving before us infidels until we subdue them with a halter above their noses and a branding iron. We will drive them to the ends of the earth. We will pursue them on horse and on foot. We will never deviate from fighting in our cause. We will bring upon the infidels the fate of the Ad and Jurhum. Any people that disobey Muhammad will pay for it. If you do not surrender to Islam, then you will live to regret it. You will be shamed in Hell, forced to wear a garment of molten pitch forever!”
Ishaq:310 “A Meccan said, ‘As soon as we were confronted by the raiding party, we turned our backs and they started killing and capturing us at their pleasure. Some of our men turned tail humiliated. Allah smote some of us with pustules from which we died.'”
Ishaq:311 “When the Quraysh began to bewail their dead, consumed in sorrow, one said, ‘Do not do this for Muhammad and his companions will rejoice over our misfortune.'”
Ishaq:340 “Surely Badr was one of the world’s great wonders. The roads to death are plain to see. Disobedience causes a people to perish. They became death’s pawns. We had sought their caravan, nothing else. But they came to us and there was no way out. So we thrust our shafts and swung our swords severing their heads. Our swords glittered as they killed. The banner of error was held by Satan. He betrayed the evil ones, those prone to treachery. He led them to death crying, ‘Fear Allah. He is invincible!’ On that day a thousand spirits were mustered on excited white stallions. Allah’s army fought with us. Under our banner, Gabriel attacked and killed them.”
Ishaq:341 “Allah favored His Apostle and humiliated the unbelievers. They were put to shame in captivity and death. The Apostle’s victory was glorious. Its message is plain for all to see. The Lord brought repeated calamities upon the pagans, bringing them under the Apostle’s power. Allah’s angry army smote them with their trusty swords. Many a lusty youngster left the enemy lying prone. Their women wept with burning throats for the dead were lying everywhere. But now they are all in Hell.”
Ishaq:342 “I wonder at foolish men like these who sing frivolously and vainly of the slain at Badr. This was nothing more than an impious and odious crime. Men fought against their brothers, fathers, and sons. Any with discernment and understanding recognize the wrong that was done here.”
Ishaq:344 “I wonder at Allah’s deed. None can defeat Him. Evil ever leads to death. We unsheathed our swords and testified to the unity of Allah, and we proved that His Apostle brought truth. We smote them and they scattered. The impious met death. They became fuel for Hell. All who aren’t Muslims must go there. It will consume them while the Stoker [Allah] increases the heat. They had called Allah’s Apostle a liar. They claimed, ‘You are nothing but a sorcerer.’ So Allah destroyed them.”
Ishaq:348 “They retreated in all directions. They rejected the Qur’an:and called Muhammad a liar. But Allah cursed them to make his religion and Apostle victorious. They lay still in death. Their throats were severed. Their foreheads embraced the dust. Their nostrils were defiled with filth. Many a noble, generous man we slew this day. We left them as meat for the hyenas. And later, they shall burn in the fires of Hell.”
Ishaq:349 “The battle will tell the world about us. Distant men will heed our warning. The infidels may cut off my leg, yet I am a Muslim. I will exchange my life for one with virgins fashioned like the most beautiful statues.”
Ishaq:357 “Their leaders were left prostrate. Their heads were sliced off like melons. Many an adversary have I left on the ground to rise in pain, broken and plucked. When the battle was joined I dealt them a vicious blow. Their arteries cried aloud, their blood flowed.”
Ishaq:308 “Muhammad halted on a sandhill and divided the booty Allah had given him. They congratulated him on the victory Allah had granted. But one of the warriors replied, ‘What are you congratulating us about? We only met some bald old women like the sacrificial camels who are hobbled, and we slaughtered them!’ The Apostle smiled because he knew that description fit .”
Tabari VII:81 “The next day I went to the Prophet. He was sitting with Abu Bakr, and they were weeping. I said, ‘O Messenger of Allah, tell me, what has made you weep? If I find cause to weep, I will weep with you, and if not, I will pretend to weep because you are weeping.’ The Prophet said, ‘It is because of the taking of ransoms. It was laid before me that I should punish them instead.’ Allah revealed: ‘It is not for any Prophet to have captives until he has made slaughter in the land.’ After that Allah made booty lawful for them.”
Tabari VII:98 “The Messenger ordered Zayd [the prophet’s former slave turned adoptive son] out on a raid in which he captured a Quraysh caravan led by Abu Sufyan at a watering place in Najd…. A number of their merchants set out with a large amount of silver since this was the main part of their merchandise. They hired a man to guide them along this route. Zayd captured the caravan and its goods but was unable to capture the men. He brought the caravan to the Prophet.”[If this isn’t piracy and terror the words need to be redefined.]”
Tabari VII:98 “The reason for this expedition was the Quraysh said, ‘Muhammad has damaged our trade, and sits astride our road. If we stay in Mecca we will consume our capital.’ …The news of the caravan reached the Prophet, as did the information that it contained much wealth and silver vessels. Zayd therefore intercepted it and made himself master of their caravan. The fifth (khums) was twenty thousand dirhams; Allah’s Apostle took it and divided the other four fifths among the members of the raiding party. Furat was taken captive. They said to him. ‘If you accept Islam the Messenger will not kill you.'”
Qur’an:3:150 “Soon We shall strike terror into the hearts of the Infidels, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority: their abode will be in the Fire!”
Ishaq:395 “Muslims, if you listen to the unbelievers you will retreat from the enemy and become losers. Ask Allah for victory and do not retreat, withdrawing from His religion. ‘We will terrorize those who disbelieve. In that way I will help you against them.'”
Qur’an:33:9 “O ye who believe! Remember the Grace of Allah, on you, when there came down an army. But We sent against them a hurricane and forces that ye saw not. Behold! They came on you from above you and from below you, and behold, the eyes became dim and the hearts gaped up to the throats, stupefied with terror, and ye imagined various vain thoughts about Allah!”
Ishaq:461 “Muhammad besieged them for twenty-five nights. When the siege became too severe for them, Allah terrorized them. Then they were told to submit.”
did you know that islam is currently the second greatest religion practiced after christianity. And did you that islam is currently the fastest growing religion???
– ther are reasons why the above stats are true.
just to let you know, all of the proof above can easily be a translation error since all of above was originally written in arabic.
TRANSLATION ERROR MY FOOT, THAT MEANS ISLAM IS BUILD IN ERROR READ IT FOR YOURSELF.COMPARE IT WITH THE BIBLE IF THE BIBLE ADVOCATE VIOLENCE, HOW CAN YOU FIGHT FOR ALLAH, SEE THE SENCE BEHIND IT.
yea… i feel bad for all uneducated insolent people who attack Islam, when their own religion is perhaps even more flawed. You claim Islam is a religion of terrorism… but look what Christianity has wrought.. all those millions of people murdered in the “”name of god”” really how intelligent of all people attacking islam…. really i feel for you.
Also how bout those molesting priests.. they’re Christan you don’t see Muslims going around saying Christianity is a religion that molests children just because a few of your “god worshiping priests:” decided to be peodos… but hey you know what keep your opinions.. it shows how ignorant and uneducated you all are (those who say Islam is a terrorizing religion)
May God Help You ALL
What do you call the Jewish bombs that rain on poor Palestinian women and children? What do you call the bombs that fall on poor Iraqi women and children? What do you call the bombs that fall on poor Afghan women and children? Just to quote but a few terrorist examples from those professing a religion other than Islam… Open your eyes. Clear your heart. Welcome the true Jesus into your soul, and peace and reconciliation will spill forth from your tongue, and not hatred and venom…
Does the bible support priests molesting children?
Does the Qu’ran support terror?
Look at the problems in each faith and ask yourself does the text on which the faith is based support the problems in the followers of that faith. Throw your criticisms at the text and religion that does and your condemnations on the actions of the people who commit them.
The funny thing is that you neglected what is the most important criteria one considers when quoting, which is “Context”, if you’ve heard of it. And judging JUST by your writing it seems to me that you are an angry christian fanatic. I have majored in Arabic Studies in Berlin University and searched for nearly half of what you cited, let me tell you one thing sir, what your doing is wrong! please stop spreading lies to other vulnerable minds. ALL the sentences you’ve used you had included “Infidels” and “violence” and “terror” which is not at all included in the original scripts! why do you have such hatred? oh my god!
I’ll say one last thing, I think you sir have mixed up the new testment with Islam..
Thank you, and i really hope you wake up from your deep sleep one day and see the world with clear conscious. Maybe, just maybe, you are neglecting what seems to be a real voice of reason, where the whole world turned against because they were “labeled” enemies, for what? for refusing to abide by US desires?… Just maybe.
Jesus never claimed to be God.
He never said that he had come to die for our sins.
And you can scour the Bible from cover to cover.
You will not find the word Trinity in it!.
Several questions arose in my mind about the above mentioned beliefs.
Why would God personally need to come down to earth if He has all power?
If He wants to get something done, all He needs to do is say the word and it is done!
Jesus was a man. If he was God, then how could he die? Can God die?
Furthermore, if Jesus was really God in the flesh, who did he pray to? Did he pray to himself?!
If Jesus is God, how can we even think of God subjecting Himself to the temptation of the devil?
How can the devil offer Jesus the kingdoms of the world, if everything in the heavens and earth all belong to God?
Besides, wasn’t it God who created the devil?!
If the Trinity is indeed an important article of faith, why does not Jesus preach this trinity?
It doesn’t take a lot of intelligence to understand that the Creator cannot become His creation, or part of His creation. Even if God could become His creation, why would He want to do that?!! And if it is true that God became Jesus and did indeed die for our sins (which sounds like a very drastic step to me), then the world as we know it today should be free of sin. If it is not free of sin, then what was the point in dying for our sins? What did it accomplish?!
I was staring at first-class Falsehood. I knew it was false right to the very core.
You will not find a single flaw in God’s creation. It is perfect. It is God who has given us the power of reason and common sense. Would God ask us to believe in anything that didn’t make sense? Truth must make sense.
When a detective wants to find the truth, he looks for clues, examines the evidence and uses his power of reasoning.
People employ this method for all matters, except in the field of religion! This is where they abandon their reason and believe blindly in whatever they are taught!
i see you have done a lot of research. I have one question for you: when you sat down with the intention to do all that research, what was the thing you wanted to prove? Because it seems to me, you sat down there with a specific mindset to pick-out stuff and contort it in a way that fits your thesis statement. The only religion that states that “GOD’s greatest creation is CONSCIOUSNESS” is Islam.
Christianity is full of contradictions as well, if one sits down with a specific mindset to reveal those contradictions, there will be much more. It is a religion that doesn’t require anything but some kind of BLIND surrender. For instance the passage ““Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.†(Matthew 11:28) Lay the heavy burden of your sins and guilt at His feet, and take Him as your Savior, and be saved!” What is it exactly you should do?
A man must work, he must feel that what he does changes things to better. That is the essence of Salvation, and that is the reason why in Islam one is obliged to work in this world in order to be rewarded in the next. Hope you people are not filled with some kind of conditioned hatred against Islam, like most people these days.
He is talking about the guilt of sin and spiritual despair not physical exhaustion. No contradiction here.
Hello Sam, hope all is well with you.. on that verse you posted the heavy laden the Messiah was talking about was the religious responsibilities the pharisees, priests, rabbis, and scribes were placing on the jews. Thats why He then said “for I am gentle and lowly at heart and you will find rest for your souls. For My yoke is easy and My burden is light.” so He was trying to pull them away from the religious man made laws. These laws were over working the jews. Jesus would point out that the pharisees were hypocrites for not practicing what they preached and helping the people with there burdens but instead being dictators and self righteous.
So sam do you believe in Jesus Christ to be your Lord and Savior? bless you in Christ name.
D ont allow yourself to be fooled by American s strategy .They captured and killed the red Indian and took America
then they created a fictive Bin laden against whom they waged war so as to get the monopoly on petrol and to make the world pay the price.
Next, they attacked Saddam Hussein.when they captured him they made all sorts of analysis to confirm if he was really saddam…you agree with me.
But when they killed Bin laden what they did…..they threw his corpse in the sea without any analysis and you know why…
Bin Laden was dead long before the attack of the world trade centre and was confirmed by Benazir Bhuto in a public speech.
The American strategy found that they could no more finance the operation and they are already bankrupt.So what they did, they killed that fictif Bin laden and threw him in the sea so that no one could discover their tricks and drama.You see the American strategy has always been like this.They planned but god also planned.so never believe that muslim are terrorist.this is a tag and the strategy of American to get petrol.In fact their plan has failed and they are bankrupt and they drew their army out of Iraq so as to avoid more expenses .when bin laden is no more so no more terrorist and they finish with iraq but still they got the petrol,.
I show you the moon dont look at my finger.
Why do you discuss about religion my friends.Religion means to unite for one cause and all religions press good tidings and good ways of living.Better thank god for having bestowed upon us a human life and such a beautiful world.If god didnt wish ,there would never have been any other religion.We are all brothers and sisters.The best of religion is the one in which you dont do to others which you dont like others do to you.Nowadays religions has separated us … I mean brothers and sisters from each other.So dear brothers and sisters dont get involved in the matters of those who wants personal gains and exploit you.We shall leave all after our death and think of how painful it would be for the soul to leave the body.I thinkthe less you are attached to the world and your good deeds ,the less pain you will get when your soul leaves your body.
I would advise people of all confessions to do what they dont do what they dont like others do to them instead of creating enemity and fanaticism.
Kindly forgive me for any mistake committed.
Noodles commented thusly:
> Actually, there’s a number of verses in the Koran which go so far as to even encourage that devout
> Muslims attack and kill non-Muslims, and that it is the responsibility of all Muslims to spread Sharia
> law, by any means necessary, so long as it’s forced onto everyone.
And there are plenty of passages in the Bible about keeping slaves and killing others. None of the western religions holey books were written by God. They were all written by men, usually centuries after the events occurred. They also, invariably, have amendments/changes/updates/additions to them, again by men, to make them fit better with the current beliefs and traditions.
God has never, at any time, under the guise of any religion, advocated anything but peace and love.
This is true. However, one notable difference between the Quran and every other holy book I know of it that a strict policy of abrogation; older, generally more peaceful verses, when contradicted, are overruled by the later, generally more violent verses.
All other religions, as far as I’m aware, leave contradictions up to being resolved by the reader’s own moral compass.
I’m Christian so could you point out the contradictions in my faith that are left open for my interpretation? Most “contradictions” to my knowledge in the christian faith are things that arn’t explicitly spelled out for humans by God such as “where do babies go when they die?” leading to disagreements over predestination. I haven’t come across any real contradictions in the bible unless you get down to really nitty gritty semantics which can usually be explained by someone who studies such things. Even verses that seem to contradict each other by people who like to throw them out are very well explained if you go back and read the context.
I am not here, to prove one’s faith wrong and elevate the other. In the Holy Koran, it is said that there are THREE holy books, the Torah, The Bible and the Koran, being the last of them. Now i don’t know how exactly these books came into existence, but there’s a wide spread belief that the passages of these books were dictated to the prophets by the angels, except the case of Moses, whom was able to directly communicate with God. And it is said that he was the only Prophet who could do so.
Further on to Jesus of Nazareth (peace and blessings be upon him), he never wrote anything down, just like Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him). But in the case of the former, the passages he uttered were all put together only after about two centuries. And the credit for establishment of such religion as Christianity is given more to St. Paul than Jesus himself, precisely because it happened almost two centuries after his death.
The theological concept of Holy Trinity is borrowed from the Greek Mythology, and combined with Judaism. The establishment of such religion served greatly to further tighten the weakening grip over the population. Now, this was the period when Roman Empire collapsed, and a new religion was a good political tool, to restore the deteriorating social power structure. Jesus’ passages were edited, molded into something that fitted the new religion, where Jesus himself would become God.
The important thing is, imagine if Jesus was God, would he allow establishment of yet another newer religion after he got out of his heavenly throne in order to establish this one true religion of Christianity? It seems highly irrational to me personally. I mean according to the Christian doctrine, he sacrificed himself for that, he subjected himself to miserable torture for that reason.
On the other hand, Muhammad’s passages were written down by his wife. Muhammad established the religion of Islam during his lifetime. He established a coherent, systematic model manifesting how people can attain enlightenment through primarily the belief in Oneness of God, independent from Time & Space (hence from this system) and acceptance of his Prophets. Also, he provided answers even for most delicate questions. The time of his life was filled with social, economic, political developments.
Now, to talk about Christians in the Koran, they are referred as “the ones who have been lead astray”. I think it describes well the aforementioned synopsis of the establishment of Christianity. It is not to say that your faith is wrong, or that it is not a real faith but the fact that it has been artificially targeted to the wrong direction by a certain agenda. It is therefore i say that i am not here to prove one’s faith wrong and my own righteous.
GOD BLESS US ALL
Needless to talk about the Racial/Theological Creed advocated by Judaism. In my opinion that religion establishes the Jewish race as God itself in its regressed form.
I shall talk about the terror – casted over the world, for 1700 years by the Christian religion. The reason for this being, the numerous attacks on Islam as being the religion of terror. As an educated person might already know, in the name of Christianity there have been not only murders of millions of people throughout history, but also unthinkably inhumane tortures that no man with a human blood flowing through his heart would be able to carry out. You can visit museums where the tools of torture are being demonstrated in their primal glory with all of the history attached to them. The tools that were used by the Saints of Christianity to torture and murder innocent people.
After all that history, after all those horrible deaths manifested by the Christian religion, how can one attack Islam on being terror based?
The only way I can explain this phenomenon is through the constant use of Social Conditioning.
People are here to learn, to absorb, to feel, to appreciate and be appreciated. There’s no need for anyone to go out there and blow themselves up. Except if they haven’t been conditioned to do so. Except if they are needed by some agenda to do so.
Out of this arises another question > Why, then, this agenda is targeting Islam? Not Judaism, not Christianity, but Islam. The answer is simple and clear – because Islam threatens the Satanic Order of the World. It has been turned into a terrorizing religion because it is the only religion that can take one out of the solid grip of Satanic Order.
I am a believer in oneness of God the Almighty, the Creator of what is known and the unknown, the Initiator of Time & Space, the Father of the Judgement Day. And i acknowledge his Messengers, of whom the Last was Muhammad (God’s blessings be upon him) following Jesus (God’s blessings be upon him).
We are one, let’s not grow hatred among us and look at the truth with our EYES!
GOD BLESS US ALL!
I think you need to read the messages of these religions/prophets a little more carefully. You can’t have a congruent religion with massive contradictions. Someone either speaks for God or doesn’t speak for God there is no in-between half truth concerning God.
Look at what people do and than look at what the writings support them doing. Islamic terrorists can point to many verses supporting what they are currently doing in the Qur’an which is why they have so many supporters and always have throughout history. Christianity can not point to such verses which is why we condemn the crusades and the Spanish inquisition.
THIS IS THE STORY OF ISLAM THE RELIGION OF PEACE
Why we struck, by Jos terror group
Headlines, News Dec 29, 2010
LAGOS—THE group that claimed responsibility for the Jos mayhem which claimed over 80 lives fueled its claim, yesterday, by posting a video clip on the internet showing its spokesman justifying why they struck in Jos.
Online publication, Saharareporters on its site showed the video of the group’s spokesman reading from an Arabic text which was translated to English language.
The group which started with a prayer quotation from the Holy Quran said: “We are responsible for the attack. If you don’t know us, we are Jama’atu ahlus sunnah lid da’awati wal jihad which was falsely labelled Boko Haram, and we did this because our creator has ordered us to wage war on everyone who does not embrace the religion of Islam after preaching to themâ€.
Sympathizers look at a burnt area after Xmas eve blast in Jos which left more than 82 people on died. Photos :REUTERS/Afolabi Sotunde.
The group further said what they did in Jos is a war between muslims and non-muslims and that they were ready for anyone willing to face them. It, therefore, warned “every muslim who believes in the religion of Islam that he should never help a non-muslim in this war.
If he helps any non-muslim and in so doing, a fellow muslim suffers due to that, he should know that he is a dead person.â€
Why we struck, by Jos terror group
â€My Muslim brothers and sisters, indeed we carried out the attack in the town of Suldaniyya which is normally called Plateau or what some call Jos.
“We are responsible for the attack.
“If you don’t know us, we are Jama’atu ahlus sunnah lid da’awati wal jihad which was falsely labelled Boko Haram, and we did this because our Creator has ordered us to wage war on everyone who does not embrace the religion of Islam after preaching to them.
And (another) one of the reasons why we are doing this in this country is because of the way we are being killed in this country. Through evil machinations, plans are orchestrated to achieve desired goals (against us) and we are continuously being killed, just as the Arabs say ‘what the eye sees is better than a story that is told’.
We are Jama’atu ahlus sunnah lid da’awati wal jihad which was falsely labelled Boko Haram
“Everyone knows how our Muslim brothers and sisters were massacred in different towns in this country; Lagos State has witnessed it, so has Ibadan, the town called Zangon Kataf in Kaduna has also witnessed it, Bauchi has witnessed it and so has the town Suldaniyya known as Plateau or Jos, where we have carried out our attack being a witness to the killings of our Muslim brothers and even the abduction of our Muslim sisters and children whose locations are not known uptil now. It has also happened in Kano State at Sabon gari area.
“These happenings including what we have not even witnessed or heard of, only God knows their magnitude (and) God shall judge (in these matters) on the Day of Judgement. These are some of the reasons why we are waging this war because God has ordered us to go to war when our brothers and sisters are killed, and now we are even denied our rights to practise our religion.
God knows best.
“This is the message I want to pass to people, and finally I want to tell the Muslims in this country and the whole world that they need to know this is a war between Muslims and non-Muslims. So whereever you are, you should be weary; this is not a tribal war, nor is it similar to the wars of the pre-Islamic era, it is not a war for financial gains, it is solely a religious war. We did not start this war so it would end in one week, or one month or one year.
“Only when we are completely annihilated and nobody chooses to continue with our struggle, maybe that could be the end. Or (we establish a system where) religion has the final say or religion determines everything, that will be the end of this war. And definitely, this war will not end just because we are visibly present anywhere.
“This is a war between Muslims and non-Muslims. We are ready for anyone willing to face us, whether it’s a group of people or even the government because we know who supports us, God the Creator of the universe, praise be to God.
“Therefore, we are warning every Muslim who believes in the religion of Islam that he should never help a non-Muslim in this war. If he helps any non-Muslim and in so doing, a fellow Muslim suffers due to that, he should know that he is a dead person.â€
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Ujunwa [Moderator] 9 hours ago
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Eurofighter [Moderator] 7 hours ago in reply to Ujunwa
But this is what we get for trying to practice democracy. This group chose to send its video to SaharaReporters because it was SR and other groups which thought it democratic to question the killing or summary execution of the illiterate leader of Boko Haram (whose soul is resting in hellfire) while he was in police custody. This bastard here does not deserve anything but being shot at sight. But enough oversabis will come out to cry foul when the right thing is done. The police should be ordered to shoot and kill these people and question the ones they are able to catch alive to know if Atiku, or Ciroma is sponsoring them. Else, kill them anytime they resist arrest. When did Islam order anyone to kill others when they refuse to convert after preaching? If that is the case Christians should send Missionaries and Mercenaries to the north. Sick patients of the Psychiatry.
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omon [Moderator] 6 hours ago in reply to Eurofighter
There is need to revisit our educational system so that we can incorporate Philosophy and History at the primary and secondary school levels. If people who fight and kill over religion because their “creator has ordered us to wage war on everyone who does not embrace the religion of Islam after preaching to themâ€, are told of the life history of all the religious leaders, they will think twice before they kill for them . If people are told that HEAVEN and HELL are created by religious leaders to work on the psychology and psyche of their followers, killing will stop. Advanced minds don’t fight over religion, because they know that it is the opium of the people and that protecting and preserving humanity is the only salvation to humankind and not imaginary concepts that will remain abstract even till the end of the world. Every society knows that “committing sin is bad” and they knew that eve before the religious leaders were born. Religious wars and crises have claimed more lives than what “sinners” have done to their fellow mankind. The government must strive to educate the minds of the youths with enough doses of HISTORY and PHILOSOPHY to demystify the various “prophets” and give them human elements. This must be done quickly if we want this country to continue to be on the map of the world.
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Henry Ayeni [Moderator] 5 hours ago in reply to omon
Omon, what type of philosophy are u talking about ?
As a matter of fact, it would bring more confusion. Confusion in the sense that if the children are taught what TRUTH is , then they wont believe in the existence of God because His existence does not meet the criteria for something to be true according to philosophy.
History teaching and learning is ok
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omon [Moderator] 4 hours ago in reply to Henry Ayeni
Yes, if people do not believe in God, they may not have to kill in the name of God. That aside, philosophy and ethics have a way of blending duties and responsibilities, causes and effects, actions and reactions, etc. Many people think God will always forgive them NO MATTER their atrocity again their fellow human beings, while others think killing will offer them a place in heaven. It is better for them to be taught that they will always suffer the consequences of their actions, because that is the natural law or the law of nature. That is my point, not that I want us to “kill God” and throw him out of our society. No, that we should see God as part of us in all our dealings and know that he is more interested in our peaceful coexistence with one another than all the praises and respect will give to him. That is the meaning of “Love your neighbour as yourself”, and “Do to others what you want others do unto you…because that is the LAW and the PROPHET”!
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Oghenevoke Igbi [Moderator] 2 hours ago in reply to Eurofighter
Any one who kills in the name of God, is not of God. Any book or religion that comandeth that someone should be killed for any reason, is not of God.
People don’t realise that God never wrote any physical book, what God did was to inspire people to write books and non of the prophet of God wrote any book, but their followers did in later years.
I am stating this point clear so that people can understand what politics has done to religion, because if you go down down to the real stories of how these so called scriptures where were written, you will find that many of them had political motive and as a matter of fact i haven’t seen the real spirituality that these scriptures have thought other than morality, but thats another issue anyway.
God does not destroy what it has created with love and DID NOT and CAN NOT ask anyone to kill.
Those who follow that injunction to kill are heeding the voice of their master the devil.
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Daniel Solome [Moderator] 2 hours ago in reply to Eurofighter
God does not kill, God loves. God created souls because IT loves them. Those killing in the name of God are simply not doing the work of God.
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Nigeriancitizen [Moderator] 6 hours ago in reply to Eurofighter
Rules of engagement needs to be enforced here with Samuel L Jackson calling the shots.
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John [Moderator] 4 hours ago in reply to Ujunwa
In all the brouhaha in the forum on this issue, none of the Islamic apologists has attempted to douse the situation by explaining how the Islamic religion in its entirety preaches and also ensures that adherents should love mankind and preserve life. Rather, what is noticeable in Nigeria and elsewhere is a campaign of mass murder that claims the lives of rival Islamic sects and other non-Islamic groups. The world has grown past the stage of “appeasing†any subject of worship with human blood. This has nothing to do with Islamophobia.
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EniOwo [Moderator] 9 hours ago
here we are…
If it is true this reinforces my belief that
Not all muslims are terrorists: all terrorists are muslims
cleophas, i read what you wrote according to your understanding. in eastern languages which you westerner, have a hard time understanding do not mean as you understand it!
for example, jesus said. FROM RIGHTEOUSNESS ABEL TO ZAKARIA YOU KILLED THE PROPHETS” to the jews, did he not? do we believe jesus or you?
you said no one has righteousness yet your lord and master says different!
jesus said” HEAVEN AND EARTH SHALL PASS AWAY BUT THE LAW OF GOD SHALL NOT PASS AWAY” etc etc. does that mean he did away with the law cleophas as you calim, should we believe jesus or you?
God says in the old testament to david pbuh” you are my son even my firstborn today i have begotten thee” YET YOU CLAIM JESUS IS THE ONE AND ONLY SON OF GOD! even though the bible states clearly FOR AS MANY ARE LED BY THE SPIRIT OF GOD ARE THE SONS OF GOD!
do we believe you or jesus again?
as for the koranic and hadith refernces you quote , please arrange a public meeting with radio,television,and newspapers present so that we can answer you on a point by point basis for joe public to know and make they own minds as to who is telling the truth!
Ok you are just misquoting here and your not even doing a good job with it. Jesus was condemning them in theses passages. You need to seriously study this stuff before you go taking out pieces of it to Troll on a web forum.
Anyone who accepts Christ in considered a “Son of God” and brother in Christ. “The Son of God” refers specifically to Christ in that he is also God which can not be said of any human saved or otherwise. This is a very in depth and complex theological issue in Christianity that has to do with linear salvation after the crucifiction of christ and fulfillment of salvation before the crucifiction of Christ. You’ll also need to understand the need for sacrifice related to sin and the offering of Christ as the perfect offering for sin. Paul wrote a whole book on it called “Romans” in the new testament and it’s some of the most amazingly complex theological writing in history.
Seriously take a course if you don’t understand it and if you need help with something you don’t understand ask for it or look for an answer.
Can anyone tell me why the media is calling Muslims “Islamists?”
I have a few questions. If christians believes in the Holy Bible , why do they not have more then one wife? Or why do they except same sex couples? Or why do thier women and thier little girls dress inappropriate? Why do they think they should push thier ideas on others? Why do they judge that they are right and everyone else is wrong? Why do they not do “an eye for an eye”?
Many think in life are either wrong or right, there is no grey area. I bid you all to live in peace and safety in this life to the next.
“why do they not have more then one wife”
As Christians we are to follow God’s law first then man’s law. Man’s law says one wife and the Bible discourages it but does not condemn it.
“Or why do they except same sex couples”
I do not except same sex couples. I do show love and compassion for all sinners. I am a sinner myself, but I do not accept the sin as God does not accept my sin, although he will forgive them if I ask.
“Or why do thier women and thier little girls dress inappropriate”
My wife and 3 daughters are expected to dress modestly.
“Why do they think they should push thier ideas on others”
I am happy to discuss my beliefs with others but do not push them on anyone.
“Why do they judge that they are right and everyone else is wrong”
Everyone has to make up in their own mind what is right. If I think it is right then how could I believe everyone else was right too. They are not the same so they can’t both be right. Doesn’t mean I march around telling others they are going to hell if they don’t believe the exact same way I do. Everyone has to decide for themselves. When it’s all over, some will be show as right and others wrong. You can say 2+2=4 and 2+2=5.
“Why do they not do “an eye for an eye—
There is a time to turn the other cheek and time for an eye for an eye.
“Many think in life are either wrong or right, there is no grey area”
You are correct..many do. I am one of them. That doesn’t mean I can force my beliefs on others although I welcome the chance to discuss it with others.
In short, I am a very conservative Christian. I believe in loving others as God loves them. I am a flawed person and make my share of mistakes. My believing that homosexuality is a sin does not mean I hate that person. It means I don’t agree with their choice in life. I have no ill feelings towards them, but will not under any circumstances condone or approve of their sin. I also believe that if you do not believe in the deity of Jesus then you do not follow the same God I do. I do not hate Muslims or anyone else. I do wish everyone could see and feel the same love I feel for God.
The problem with Muslims is that they expect everyone to bend over and accommodate their rituals and beliefs and mosque building everywhere but they do not award the same respect to non-muslims at all.
Perfect case in point – the middle east. Lets look at Sausi shall we?
How many churches and temples are there?
They seem to only favour freedom of religion if the religion in question is islam.
Most muslims are hipocrates therefore I have no respect for these shambolic middle east arab republics. They are a joke. they treat non muslims with disdain and as second class citizens.
All you have to do is visit a so-called moderate place like the UAE. Take Dubai where I spent some time not too long ago. The Emiratis and other arabs are treated as gods while evetryone else is just there as a sort of weird slave class.
I would put you all in concentration camps. we don’t want anything to do with forigner believe and keep your religious war’s over the atlantic please. i know i am not alone on this fact, there are millions that feel like i do. my granfather never gave his life over in holland in 1943 for canada and united stats, to not be free, so please leave this contry and go, go back to where war is your way of life. cuz thats what comes to mind when you say islamic or muslim or the other religions. and remeber god made oceans for a reson. it is said that there will be a war of all religions. till then i will just shine up my rifle. and god bless. you’ll never take the west.
Thank you for this article. Very helpful.
The obvious answer to this debate is to use reason and compassion, and to move past the archaic need for superstitious supernatural (religious) explanations of the natural universe. We are all one species, one race, one people sitting on a tiny planet in a humongous universe. Religion is divisive and designed to divide us into opposing groups, each with a smug air of superiority that pose as loving, compassionate institutions.
Those of us with a rational, natural worldview are growing weary of watching supernatural believers’ constant and often deadly fighting over foolishness. We envision a rich and meaningful world where religious infighting is merely a curious and dark footnote in ancient history…where it belongs.
You are a racist and most arabs are also racists even if you are in the same religion as them.
Dave & Marlon, thanks for being the voice of reason. I support everyone’s right to believe and worship whatever/whoever they want, but no one has the right to use that as an excuse to kill and hate. Far as can tell, religion only serves to divide us, and ALL religions make their own interpretations to fit their own agendas. Just as we look back on ancient civilizations, like Greek Mythology, Mayans, Egyptians, and Indian Gods and all of their assorted and varying their beliefs as being uninformed or even silly, many years from now, the people of the day will look back on the current religions with equal amusement. (That is, of course, assuming we do not succeed in destroying the earth and its inhabitants in the meantime.)
@seeker
‘All you have to do is visit a so-called moderate place like the UAE. Take Dubai where I spent some time not too long ago. The Emiratis and other arabs are treated as gods while evetryone else is just there as a sort of weird slave class’
That is not true, ‘and other arabs’ should not be there. Plus, what you are saying has nothing to do with Islam.
I think what everyone has failed to bring up is Palestine! Look at what’s happening there, but nobody mentions that! Thousands, possibly millions of mothers, fathers, children and babies have died, even when they had nothing to do with it! Nowadays, when one of the soldiers is killed, it’s all over the news. Do they say anything about the hundreds of Palestinians being killed everyday?! I’ll let everyone think about that for themselves.
You cannot judge a whole religion by the sins of a minor part of ‘followers’. Not only for Islam, but for any religion.
Amy- And any other sheep.
Have you ever been to Israel? probably not so I advise you go to the holy land and see for yourself how life really is there rather than naively believeing the sob stories of the poor ‘palestinians’ who by the way are living only in fear of there own dictators. As Iv been there many times I can tell you all the trouble in Israel is caused by the poor peace-loving palestinians.
Answer this: How many times have you heard of terror attacks in the arab areas caused by Israel??? Incase you were wondering- Its nill.
However, Im constantly hearing about the rockets fired into Israel DAILY and explosions on buses and cafes. Bottom line is. Do your research.
I come forth to say a few things in the hope that it might clear a few things up. There are some of you here that, in my opinion, are not quite yet introduced to the real Islam. Most of you talk about the radical Islam, and I agree with everything that CindyWright said. I’m a Muslim, and I live in Malaysia. There’s someone here who said that Muslims expect others to obey and respect their rituals and beliefs and yet would not do the same unto others. This someone took the Middle East as an example. And though what he/she said is right (about it being so in the Arab lands), I feel that he/she forgot that Islam does not belong to any particular race. Let’s look into my own country please.
Malaysia is a country in SouthEast Asia, and its a Muslim country, as Islam is the most dominant religion here. There are Malays (most Malays are Muslims, I think maybe only 2%-3% or so are not), Chinese, Indians and many other races here. There are mosques, churches, temples, gudwaras, and we celebrate Eid, Chinese New Year, Thaipusam, Deepavali, Christmas, and so on. Now I’m not trying to promote my land or anything, I’m just using it as an example. Muslim, Christian, Hindu and Buddhist kids can sit and learn in one class, be neighbors, and promote unity and non-racism. Of course, there are small groups of racists and anti-Islam, anti-Christianity, whatever, here but it’s quite under control. I can even talk about Islam with non-Muslim kids and they can share with me about their religions. It’s fun and nice and lovely to do that. They don’t judge us like any of you do because they know us, have befriended and lived with us, and yeah there’s no such thing as ‘bomb the infidels!!!’.
My father has been to a church, years ago, to honour his Christian friend’s invitation to his wedding ceremony. He didn’t touch the drinks or the food, but he did go and congratulated his friend and did a bit of socialising and then went home. If one of my Muslim classmates had ridiculed another’s religion I’m pretty sure all the other Muslim kids, including me, would each give him/her a smack on the side of the head coz to do that is kinda horrifying and the subject has become like taboo. If we ever want to disagree or say something unpleasant about any other religion we’d only say it among us and we don’t let it get to the people of the other religions, for sensitivity’s sake.
It also saddens me that so many think of all of us as terrorists when so many of us here, in this country alone, condemn the actions of those terrorists themselves. Why must you judge a religion by its followers? Yes, followers reflect the nature of the religion itself but it should never be too closely linked that if the followers did something wrong, everyone would say, “Theirs is a religion of terror!”. To that other someone who said that there are verses in the Quran that encouraged Muslims to kill the infidels, are you sure that it is an order or merely a retelling of our history? For dark were the times of old when Islam was not spreaded to all corners of the world. During those times, Muslim soldiers fought battles and conquered lands in order to spread Islam, and to the ones they fought, this they said: “You have 2 choices. Embrace Islam or stay in your respective religion, but pay for the cost of your own protection.”.
Some embraced Islam, while the others who do not want to are asked to pay an amount of money that does not burden them. The rich were asked to pay a little bit more, while the poor were allowed to pay as much as they could or give some of the results of their hard work (like the food that comes from thier farms or things like that) to the Muslim soldiers. It will then be divided equally and half of the treasures will be sent to their families while another half to the banks, to be kept and used for good. Then they would select a Muslim leader and he is to rule wisely and fairly and kindly. Khalifa Abu Bakr as-Siddiq once said to his army before they leave for war:
“Do not betray or do bad things, do not cheat, do not kill your opponent cruelly, do not kill children, aged men and women. Do not cut down trees that bear dates or any other fruits, do not burn their homes, do not slaughter cows, camels or any livestock except only for the need to eat their meat. If you meet with the people who are doing their religious rituals in churches or their religious places, leave them be and do not disturb them.” Back in those days, when the Muslims go to war, they would ask the opposite army to do battle with them on uninhabited grounds. These days you can fly your jet plane over a city and drop bombs and kill billions of innocent people, Muslim or non-Muslim, and get away with it. 🙁
Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) once said: “I prayed to my God to fulfill me three wishes, but only two were accepted while one was denied. I asked for my followers not to be wiped out from the surface of the Earth, and He accepted it. I asked that they will not die of hunger, and He accepted it. I asked that they will not disagree and break apart from each other, but He denied it.” This is what’s happening today. There are two sides: the Muslim terrorists (who don’t deserve the title Muslim) who seemed quite uneducated about the deeper aspects of Islam and hide behind religion and the Muslims who oppose them in the struggle to show Islam’s true nature and condemn those who do otherwise.
If there is any mistake, any wrong sentence that might have been off-track and does not refelct everything that Islam teaches us then I ask you, my brothers and sisters in Islam, to correct me and may your correction be the truth I yearn to expose to those who do not understand. Note also that I am not here to challenge anyone to a debate, and that I know this comment is gonna get criticism and awful judgement from some of you here who can’t seem to accept what others claim as the truth and who think that close-mindedness is a sign of solid thinking or whatever it is that you try to convey. This world is bigger than you think, and unless you are a full time traveller who has experienced nearly all the cultures and lifestyles and rituals of the world’s citizens today, and has actually dealt with nice Muslim communities and introduced to another side of Islam (the real side which some of you so ignorantly and arrogantly do not care to study about), then go ahead and say what you want about me. That I’ll burn in Hell, or that I’m just another stupid terrorist who doesn’t care about innocence and life and love. Say it, or perhaps condemn my religion more. I don’t care. I’ve said what I needed to say, and I hope that all of you who would listen would understand more and to those of you who would not, well… may God show you the truth. Salaam to all…
Seems to me there are a bunch of children here that don’t know a damn thing. All of your truths are merely based on an emotional connection to a culture that has chosen to personify God in such a way that is conducive to their way of life. Whomever can say their religion is the true religion, show me. Prove to me that your religion is the true one. Allow me to talk to this entity you call God, Allah, Buddha, etc. If you can’t satify at least one of my five senses, then I regard it as BS!!!!! Besides, everytime someone says devil…they show me a person. Everytime someone says God, they look up. How retarded is that? Do you even realize that you really aren’t looking up considering your position in the Universe? People, you need to wake the hell up and figure out what it is you are really searching for in this quest for the ultimate truth. Whoever God is, I doubt he or she is as controlling as the religions of the world. RELIGION IS MANMADE!!!! It has NOTHING to do with GOD! You can ask me for proof that ALL religions are manmade, if I can ask you to prove to me that it isn’t! Thank you and have a nice day!
Whoa! Take it everyone. This article, which is very great by the way, is not an outlet for religion bashing. I understand that people need an outlet, but here, really? Thanks, Manisha (author) for making clear the difference between Muslim and Islam!
Cheers to Dave, Marlon, and Angela for attempting to educate the rest. And to the rest, smile, Big Brother is watching you!
Oops…Take it *easy everyone!
WHERE..NOT..IN..OLD..TIMES..ANYMORE..GET..ON..WITH..YOUR..LIVES..FUCKING..GROW..UP..DOSENT..MATTER..WHAT..RELIGON..STOP..KILLING..BECAUSE..OF..DIFFERENT..BIBLE
When will people wake up and realize that NO God FEARING MAN, or follower of God
would purposely do harm or kill another. Not in the Islamic, Christian, Buddist, or any other ‘real’ faith. Only people of evil do evil things and claim it to be under the will of God.
These acts of terrorism are exactly that. They are designed to generate fear among otherwise peaceful people and create a rift between them.
When I see how people talk about religious groups being labeled as terrorists I think how
horrible that the terrorists, and ignorance have won that round.
And about the issue of Jihad as mentioned above, what a noble cause, to fight evil. Famine, greed, and racism could be considered evil. Jihad does not mean irradicate those not in league with you. Any using Jihad to wage war against another follower of God is Evil, cannot be assciated with folowers of the Lord, and will be punished by God.
Peace
Haters Gonna Hate..with your fked up hate dont expect love in return..
Jesus is the way the truth and the life no one can come to Father but through Him.
For God so love the world that He gave His only begotten son that who ever believed in Him should not parish but have ever lasting life. Who ever believes in Him is not condemned but those who do not believe in Him are condemned already for not believing in the only begotten Son of God, Jesus Christ! For judgement I have come into the world so that those who can not see may see and that those who see may be made blind. May Jesus Christ open your hearts to the truth. Peace be with you.
But there were also false prophets among the people, even as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Lord who bought them, and bring on themselves swift destruction. And many will follow their destructive ways, because of whom the way of truth will be blasphemed. By covetousness they will exploit you with deceptive words; for a long time their judgment has not been idle, and their destruction does not slumber. For if God did not spare the angels who sinned, but cast them down to hell and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved for judgment; and did not spare the ancient world, but saved Noah, one of eight people, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood on the world of the ungodly;2 Peter 2:1-5 NKJV
I did read the piece on “Difference Between Islam and Muslim” in which I found to be very informational and engaging.
I would like to make a universal caring appeal concerning “The Relationships Of Humanity” with this passion I have worldwide love for human beings and hope and desire that all have the very same for each other. This passion in some respect is of my reasoning and by the revealing of The Spirit and not ontological but at times based on facts of historical events of all Cultures and Races.
When I think of different belief systems that I call “religions stupefactions of hurt and harm” the divisions comes to mind. These religions have caused so much disasters, gloom, doom, and oppressions all in the name of God or gods. There are so much hurt, harm and devastation, if an alien from another world would read Human History it would seem as if the human race (of all races) on this plane is from and by their own origins and or evolution of different kind and not of the same existence, which are people that have nothing in common other than the ability of negotiation for vain power and control.
First, my passion for humanity is based of the love I possess for The Pure Spirit Of Light Of Mind Of Love. The Pure Spirit Of Light Of Mind Of Love is in all people in spite of their race or belief systems or even non-beleif. However, some religions have the claims that their faith is the pure religion, which is the root cause for the misgivings, and misdoings in the name of those religions. I believe that there is “One Human Family” of the very same origin despite the present reality of the sciences. It is true that the universality of “The Science Theory” is that its environment influences humanity, and the atmosphere in which life inhibits affect the ecology. There is no race superior or inferior to each race, all humans are of One Body.
Second, The Spirit leads me to believe that science is a valid way of explaining some of the acts of nature. Science is not the supreme absolute factor of existence. Science seems to say that which cannot be seen or touched does not exist. From my reasoning that is far from reality because, existence is with or without me.
For example, there are people that will never see the surface of the deepest parts of the oceans and thus say that deep valleys and tall mountains do exist there on the watery surface, is a false analogy, just because they are not seen.
This is the same claim, as if the solar system of this realm and the plane we exist on is the only galaxy in the cosmos. Even though we cannot experience something through the sense data, it does not mean there is no existence, and it is not clear to me how could anyone make such a rational reason, that there is only one solar system?
Moreover, it is even more clear that the acts of nature does not defy nor deny a creator because of the facts of The Science Of Evolution. It seems too that not even The Law Of Thermodynamics can refute a creator, whereby for me it is more of a defense of a creator. Because what The Pure Spirit Of Light Of Mind Of Love created, indeed none can destroy nor create but only add to because of The Will Of The Creator.
First Law of Thermodynamics: Energy can be changed from one form to another, but it cannot be created or destroyed. The total amount of energy and matter in the Universe remains constant, merely changing from one form to another. The First Law of Thermodynamics (Conservation) states that energy is always conserved; it cannot be created or destroyed. In essence, energy can be converted from one form into another. I hold the Law to be true but misunderstood by the very scientists that formulated the law.
Third, there is the creation of The Human Family having many members of the very same origin and milieu on this plane and realm. Humanity is the creation of One Human Body of many members as revealed to me by the The Spirit. The factions, discord, disagreement, schism, split, friction and stupefaction of The Human Family is due to Free-will, and Free-will is the not the culprit of the brokenness of stupefactions within The Human Family. Free-will is like that of grace and are the results of a Loving Creator, loving the creation of The Mind and The Will of The Human Family allowing them the ability to choose to believe and worship willingly.
Four, there are those of humanity that choose to live by their pure intellect and thus, through their thought defines sciences philosophically and declares there is no creator. This is of my reasoning, that curiosity is not the reason for the existence and justification of the denial of a creator.
Five, the revealing is as I impart attesting my passion of the love for The Human Family that The Spirit created the oldest institution (organism), which is The Human Family. This leads me to further state that humanity has always been civilized and never an evolutionary being in the sense of science.
However, the evolutionary stages of humanity are clear. All that humanity has become and thus becoming is by The Mind Of Will and The love for humanity by the The Spirit Of The Creator. Other than the personal creation and emanations of The Spirit, humanity affairs are dealt with by Revelation, Vision, Theophany, Dreams, Prophecy, and by Trance. The meta-physics of these theological empirical phenomenons is often time misinterpreted, misrepresented, and also falsely claimed and declared in the name of religion.
Six, it is a grave misnomer that due to so many religions that comes from The Family Of Humanity as One Body; this is not The Will Of The Spirit that all in the name of one God having ideological misinterpreted, misrepresented because of the power and wealth that comes from the pure knowledge of the intellectual elite, is a misjudgments and not of The Pure Spirit Of Light Of Mind Of Love.
These personal ideologies is coined by members of the same body of the family that says God speaks to me just like he speaks to others coming from males and females of history alike. Religion upon such truth has caused “Hundred Years War” and thrust humanity even deeper in the terrible and perilous times called “The Dark Ages” in the history of humanity. There are those points in the realm of Church History where even the acts of slavery and the laws of the female being property at the condoning of religion. Before the rise of enlightenment, positivism, humanism, there is the attempt by science to declare that the pure intellectual of the elitists is that there is no god and nor further need of a god and the elitists ought be the leaders of society.
Unless humanity return to the Divine Order of The Human Family as One Body under The Pure Spirit Of Light Of Mind Of Love the world as we know it on this plane and realm shall become wiser and wickeder and creating reprobation unto further perilous times.
The results of total Reprobation can only be eradicated by the unity of The Human family as One Body in the very same faith of The Pure Spirit Of Light Of Mind Of Love willfully in whole and total complete worship. This is something we cannot create nor universalize it is who we are as a people of The Pure Spirit Of Light Of Love because of The Will Of the emanations of Love, Truth, Peace, Will, Right, Good, Just, Wisdom, Faith, Grace for all human beings, to the highest most common good, which by no means is a form of socialism nor communism, which is simply the will of The Spirit.
In present Church History, there is so much division and faction between certain belief systems, which is because of The Pure Church, whereby those ecclesiastical bodies are plotting, acts vainity, and pure dominance at any cost.
Seven, now, and furthermore, here is my attested passion as the revealing is unfolded. The Pure Spirit Of Light Of Love is the creator of humanity as One Body and that all life is sacred. Existence and the essence of all, is an emanation of the power of the Holy Spirit in the emanation of Jesus, The Christ. Jesus, The Christ is The Son, a symbol of our Father in the earth realm as the son, Whom Jesus refer to as Father, The Pure Spirit Of Light Of Love. The Pure Spirit Of Light Of Mind Of Love, is the essence of Truth, Peace, Will, Right, Good, Just, Wisdom, Faith, Grace and can never change, from everlasting to everlasting whenever is or ever was by no beginning nor by no ending > in laymen’s terms the first and the last > the beginning and the ending.
It is clear that The Whole World have the universality of terms, clichés and principles throughout the world. For example, greeting and salutations are known worldwide. Light is what all life on this plane and realm has in common which is a provision for all life. Relative Light is not a God and nor an appointed god or gods, which do not control light. The revealing to me is that light is a symbol and a message that humanity is the image of The Pure Spirit Of Light Of Love. Humanity’s image is the emanation of Love, Truth, Peace, Will, Right, Good, Just, Wisdom, Faith, Grace. Humanity pure intellectualism does not universalize these natures of characters, which is innate in humanity, which is to abide in the Pure Spirit Of Light.
Once humanity over The Oceans and The Seas of The Seven Continents of The Earth Plane and Realm embrace the character and nature of Love, Truth, Peace, Will, Right, Good, Just, Wisdom, Faith, Grace as the way of The Human Family as One Body and honor life as sacred, all the ills, misdoings and misgiving shall cease and be no more of past, present, and the Future.
Indeed, I believe in the spirit of humanity, to do one’s duty for duty sake.
I believe that love is the driving force that substain those of love.
I believe that one ought to love their emeny as themselves.
I believe that the strong bares the infirmatives of the weak.
I believe that all humans are of the same body and that body is guided by love.
I believe that The Human Family is the intimate personal creation of The Pure
Spirit Of Light Of Mind Of Love.
I believe in the sacred divine order of The Humanity and none is without
the family of Pure Light whereby none shall be in darkness but are
called into The Marvelous Light
For now I say peace and goodwill to all.
@ All the bigots posting here: You guys are idiots. I’m not a truther, but I can prove that islam does not call for terrorism. First off, one of you idiots posted the “OMG! QURAN 9:5” lie again. *Sigh* If only I had a dollar for every time I’ve refuted this lie. Have you bothered to read the whole chapter? Here’s verses 1-7 of Ch.9:
9:1 A (declaration) of immunity from Allah and His Apostle, to those of the Pagans with whom ye have contracted mutual alliances:-
Baraatun mina Allahiwarasoolihi ila allatheena AAahadtum minaalmushrikeena
9:2 Go ye, then, for four months, backwards and forwards, (as ye will), throughout the land, but know ye that ye cannot frustrate Allah (by your falsehood) but that Allah will cover with shame those who reject Him.
Faseehoo fee al-ardi arbaAAataashhurin waiAAlamoo annakum ghayru muAAjizee Allahiwaanna Allaha mukhzee alkafireena
9:3 And an announcement from Allah and His Apostle, to the people (assembled) on the day of the Great Pilgrimage,- that Allah and His Apostle dissolve (treaty) obligations with the Pagans. If then, ye repent, it were best for you; but if ye turn away, know ye that ye cannot frustrate Allah. And proclaim a grievous penalty to those who reject Faith.
Waathanun mina Allahiwarasoolihi ila alnnasi yawma alhajjial-akbari anna Allaha baree-on mina almushrikeenawarasooluhu fa-in tubtum fahuwa khayrun lakum wa-in tawallaytumfaiAAlamoo annakum ghayru muAAjizee Allahiwabashshiri allatheena kafaroo biAAathabin aleemin
9:4 (But the treaties are) not dissolved with those Pagans with whom ye have entered into alliance and who have not subsequently failed you in aught, nor aided any one against you. So fulfil your engagements with them to the end of their term: for Allah loveth the righteous.
Illa allatheena AAahadtummina almushrikeena thumma lam yanqusookum shay-an walam yuthahirooAAalaykum ahadan faatimmoo ilayhim AAahdahum ilamuddatihim inna Allaha yuhibbu almuttaqeena
9:5 But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, an seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practise regular charity, then open the way for them: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.
Fa-itha insalakha al-ashhuru alhurumufaoqtuloo almushrikeena haythu wajadtumoohum wakhuthoohumwaohsuroohum waoqAAudoo lahum kulla marsadinfa-in taboo waaqamoo alssalatawaatawoo alzzakata fakhalloo sabeelahum innaAllaha ghafoorun raheemun
9:6 If one amongst the Pagans ask thee for asylum, grant it to him, so that he may hear the word of Allah; and then escort him to where he can be secure. That is because they are men without knowledge.
Wa-in ahadun mina almushrikeena istajarakafaajirhu hatta yasmaAAa kalama Allahithumma ablighhu ma/manahu thalika bi-annahum qawmun layaAAlamoona
9:7 How can there be a league, before Allah and His Apostle, with the Pagans, except those with whom ye made a treaty near the sacred Mosque? As long as these stand true to you, stand ye true to them: for Allah doth love the righteous.
Kayfa yakoonu lilmushrikeena AAahdun AAindaAllahi waAAinda rasoolihi illa allatheena AAahadtumAAinda almasjidi alharami fama istaqamoolakum faistaqeemoo lahum inna Allaha yuhibbualmuttaqeena
Clearly we see that the Pagans who waged war will have to be fought, and those who stayed loyal will be spared.
Another idiot posted something about Muslim control of Medieval Spain? Pick up a history book, dumbass. Muslim Spain was the most religiously tolerant part of the Western World back then. You see, Jews could practice their religions WITHOUT being beheaded like they would be in Christian Europe. In fact, because Spain hosted a large population of Jews and “heretical” Christians, they were GRATEFUL when the Muslims conquered them. Why? Because under Islamic Law (Fiqh, not “Shariah” as Shariah is a term for religious life that the media has twisted into some kind of demonic legal system) Christians and Jews are to set up their own governments. Muslim Spain was the social/economic hub of Europe back then. Jews and Christians became very wealthy and gained positions of power, and many of them became scholars. Thomas Aquainas (Christian) and Moses Maimonides (Greatest Jewish Scholar of All Time) both lived in Muslim Spain. @ the poster, you seriously think that the Reconquista/Inquisition, in which thousands of Muslims and Jews were killed, are good substitutes for this prosperity? Dream on, *sshole.
At you *sses who bring up 9/11, you d**ch*s realize that Muslims died in those attacks, right? Muslims were victims, family members, and first responders during the attacks. There was a mosque on the 17th floor of the South Tower. I guess they must not have gotten the Jihad memo, huh?
i know there are some people who are involved in such acts from all sects so it is not good to blame only muslims.
English isn’t my native tongue (I’m Portuguese), but i always thought that in English we say:
He is Islamist, so he is an Islamic person. (Just like in Portuguese Islamita = Pessoa Islamica)
Which means that in Portuguese (and always thought that in English as well) saying “That Islamic person” is the same as saying “That Islamist”.
‘Cause from the dictionary:
Something related with Islam = Islamic (Ex. Islamic person, Islamic people, Islamic art, Islamic country)
A person that follows Islam = Islamist
This means that i always thought that it was true in English, just like in Portuguese, that:
Islamist = Muslim = Islamic person.
He is Muslim = He is Islamist = He is an Islamic person.
It’s a matter of choice.
Note that even thought i know there are debates in Islamic culture about this, in Portugal we do separate both Islam from Islamism.
Islam for us is the group of countries or communities that follow the Islamic faith. Islamism is the name of the religion.
Thus:
Q- What is the faith of Islam?
A -The faith of Islam is Islamism. (never: The faith of Islam is Islam)
I thought this was also the case in the English language.
Dear Sangeeta,
How do you describe GHODRA KAND and AYODHYA KAND?
If you are trying to say that uneducated persons are doing terrisom. What do you think about western world or Israel? We all know the facts through wikileaks which has revealed the condition of Afghanistan, Iraq and Palestene.
Neither we find Bin Laden nor the mass destruction wepeaons in Iraq. Only on assumption basis countries was destroyed.
Dont be prejudice or blame one community of people. A community consist of good and bad people. Its on our prespective how we are seeing, its on us to tell whether glass is half empty of half full.
May be you have not notice the good muslims around you, but for few people you have blaming community.
I will suggest you go for comparative studies of religion and you may find the right path.
As per world report Islam is the most accepting religon in western countries. Please find out if islam teaches terrorisim then why these people are accepting it.
ummm, where were you? we did find bin laden.
hi
who doesnt want islam. he has to live then with no hope, give your money to the banks work like a slave relax with alcohol join the greatest inword and outword war against islam and if you re happy, you re the best man on earth.
The main objective of Islam is only submission to god and the attribute of god is all that is good and by this I mean peace,love and justice , praise the almighty and be thankful to him .All bad qualities are from the evil master.You either do good and allow god to triumph or you do bad and be the disciple of the evil master. Why do we dispute.If god wished he could make all people good
In a text of the Qur an he said “I created man on a highest degree and put him in a lowest level” something like this, I appologise if did not express it well.So if we are wise our objective is to rise to the degree god created us.Our mind needs a lot of transformation.Our mind is developed only at a low percentage.So it would be better that we elaborate to discover our ignorance rather to discuss about what we are suppose to know.Most of the time we forget ourselves and think of worldly affairs.If we have to blame ,dont blame others better we blame ourselves and transform our mind.
Forgive me if ever there is something which I unknowingly mentioned.
islam is not a religion but it’s a totalitarianism, expansionist, militaristic, seditious evil political system. All muslims are sedition against the Constitution of The United States of America since their true allegiance is to the koran and the depraved mind who wrote it. The American public should be aware that certain muslim leaders, including the head of the ISNA (islamic society of North America, a brotherhood front organization) recently urged DOJ officials to take steps to criminalize of islam. One official embraced of the OIC (organization of islamic conference. Let me give you a hint..shes a female) push for a UN resolution calling governments to criminalize defamation of islam. This is very serious since they are trying to confiscate our 1st amendment rights. The state of Tennessee with a few other states are battling to keep sharia and other foreign laws from being implemented with our legal system. In the state of Florida, there have been a number of righteous killings by muslims on their own family members. Once they are arrested, they cry out that they want to be tried under sharia law since under sharia law righteous killing is an honor to allah and the muslim in question goes free and not charged with any crime. England sad to say, will be the first European country to be under islamic and sharia law. In many countries of Europe, you can criticize Christians, Jews, Pentecostals, baptist, etc but you cannot criticize islam and if you do, prison time or death awaits you. When muslims say that islam is peace, what it really means.. peace will be achieve only when every man woman and children are under islam and sharia would be the law of the land. We must get rid of these infestation of leaders that would allow foreign laws to mingle with our own
Good Comments. God Bless you
How can Islam be a peaceful religion when it commands its followers to do the following?
1) [2.191] And kill them wherever you find them, and drive them out from whence they drove you out, and persecution is severer than slaughter, and do not fight with them at the Sacred Mosque until they fight with you in it, but if they do fight you, then slay them; such is the recompense of the unbelievers.
2) [3:28] Let not the believers take the unbelievers for friends rather than believers; and whoever does this, he shall have nothing of Allah, but you should guard yourselves against them, guarding carefully; and Allah makes you cautious of (retribution from) Himself; and to Allah is the eventual coming.
3) [3.151] We will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve, because they set up with Allah that for which He has sent down no authority, and their abode is the fire, and evil is the abode of the unjust.
4) [4.34] Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great.
5) [4.76] Those who believe fight in the way of Allah, and those who disbelieve fight in the way of the Satan. Fight therefore against the friends of the Satan; surely the strategy of the Satan is weak.
6) [5.51] O you who believe! Do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people
7) [8.12] When your Lord revealed to the angels: I am with you, therefore make firm those who believe. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them.
8) [8.69] Eat then of the lawful and good (things) which you have acquired in war, and be careful of your duty to Allah; surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.
9) [9.5] When the sacred months are over slay the idolaters wherever you find them. Arrest them, besiege them, and lie in ambush everywhere for them. If they repent and take to prayer and render the alms levy, allow them to go their way.
10) [9.5] When the sacred months are over slay the idolaters wherever you find them. Arrest them, besiege them, and lie in ambush everywhere for them. If they repent and take to prayer and render the alms levy, allow them to go their way.
11) [9.14] Fight them, Allah will punish them by your hands and bring them to disgrace, and assist you against them and heal the hearts of a believing people.
12) [9.29] Fight those who do not believe in Allah (Jews and Christians), nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Apostle have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax (jizya) in acknowledgment of (Islamic) superiority and they are in a state of subjection.
13) [9.30] And the Jews say: Uzair is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!
14) [9.33] He it is Who sent His Apostle with guidance and the religion of truth, that He might cause it to prevail over all religions, though the polytheists may be averse.
15) [9.123] O you who believe! Fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness; and know that Allah is with those who guard (against evil).
16) [22.39] Permission (to fight) is given to those upon whom war is made because they are oppressed, and most surely Allah is well able to assist them.
17) [33.61] Cursed: wherever they are found they shall be seized and murdered, a (horrible) murdering.
18) [47.4] So when you meet in battle those who disbelieve, then smite the necks until when you have overcome them, then make (them) prisoners
19) [48.28] He it is Who sent His Apostle with the guidance and the true religion that He may make it prevail over all the religions; and Allah is enough for a witness.
20) [48.29] Muhammad is God’s apostle. Those who follow him are ruthless to the unbelievers but merciful to one another.
These arguments are the most pathetic thing I’ve ever seen. You people argue so much about which religion is correct and whether or not Muslims are terrorists or not. I won’t say what religion I am from because that does not mean anything. If your religion truly believes in peace then simply ignore those who appose you or say harsh things. If you believe the other religion truly SUPPORTS terrorism then don’t you think that there would be far more terrorism because then they would think they are doing the right thing. Would they not? I know people from Both Christianity and Islam and they are both perfectly fine, The Christians were never ignorant and the Muslims never uttered a single word about supporting terrorism. 9/11 is but one example of violence against the USA in their soil. How about the hundreds of thousand that are in danger because of the USA?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqWzA_e7oIU
Despite Islam having so much misconceptions & yet more people from various backgrounds embrace it!
This is because when people from various faiths & Atheists as well as prominent scientists read Qur’an or its logical answers to every question & doubts, there remain very minor hesitations in being honest with oneself that this is The Truth & makes sense…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybnJKLEla3Y (proof Islam is the Truth ‘No Brainer’ by Yusuf Estes)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q094wWy_CS0 (above video full version)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsovikQmHdU (Feminism ‘Ahmed Deedat Best Answer of the question’)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pk0AaZQOrc4 (Death! ‘You will be Judged’ by khalid yasin)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=My7N8rEwbwk (Feminism ‘Dr Zakir Naik Atheist Guy Questions’
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gbk1BospcPM (Festive gift ‘Birth of Jesus {peace be upon him’ From Qur’an Chapter 19 Surah Mariam or Chapter Mary)
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“Mohammed is God’s apostle. Those who follow him are ruthless
to the unbelievers but merciful to one another” Quran 48:29
Enough said, Islamic people of the Muslim religion are blind sheep…
http://www.irf.net/ learn about muslim
States in the Quran, To eliminate your enemy right down to it’s last seed. Thats means every man, woman, and child.
Actually it makes a lot of sence , If you kill every last Child and infant to where they no longer exsist then the day well never come they can strengthen and come back at you seeing you slaughtered them all into non exsistance.
Then there’s the way they treat their women.
“Mohammed is God’s apostle. Those who follow him are ruthless
to the unbelievers but merciful to one another” Quran 48:29
Mohammed was a seed that feed others into a regilion that the world didn’t need, manufactuered from a man locked up in a jail cell. He’s an Anti Christ, maybe not the anti christ but none the less a faulthood. Just like Joseph Smith who was taken by an angry mob from his jail cell and hung.
Muslims invaded india and killed millions of innocent hindus and budhists. Some of the muslim kings accepted the gifts of hindus and let them surrender but their religious fundamentalists finally forced them to kill saying “Quran COMMANDS us to KILL non-belivers”. How can such a religion based on Hatered , succeed in taking one to the Supreme Lord.
God is love and has to be reached by Love.
Muslims in India are one with Pakisthan and they want to ruin the Hindus.
In India actually, we practice VEDANTA which considers all religions as pathways to the Supreme Lord , universal brother hood, all religions can butifully coexist. One should choose ones path according to ones ineer most inclination, not because some1 brainwashed you or you are offered money.
What about the hindutfa group? A group of HINDU terrorists destroying mosques all over india and killing innocent muslims still to this very day? See, this is why Muslims get violent, because they are being threatened by the violent beliefs of hindus that are killing many muslims in a very inhumane way. The terrorist extremist HINDUTFA group has only been targetting children and women, they kill innocent muslim children on the way to school and kill innocent muslim women in their home. Every religion has an extreme side, those minority of extreme groups believe to kill in the name of their religion, so stop portraying Islam as a violent religion with your incoherence, first look at hinduism as it states in the vedas to kill any children and women prisoners of war. Oh and by the way, gay hind!!
There are other religions out there with more than one God or who find it utterly out of context. All I want to say is, ALL man should be humble when referring to their God(s). Humility does not mean weakness it means respect in knowing you alone have no proof, you are no prophet, you are not above your fellow man. When religious fools quibble, they forget the dangers of the land, for it is not God/Allah/Yhwh/Ahura Mazda/Etc. who will destroy your own physical self, it is you, for when you let hatred, the seed that opposes the Divine force, plant itself into your heart you no longer do things in the name of goodness, you failed to be good and your actions only cut the Earth you toil on leaving dust in the bowls of your children. Does it matter if we see the divine as many or one or see the sheer power of the physical world? No, for that is in the heart a glowing present to warm us and keep us living, what matters is what we do to feed those with no food, disarm and fix our broken pots, and honestly from a White Gay Pagan American studying languages, history, anthropology, and wondering why? The newest disasters made by man originate from the European wanting Sugar, silk, and realizing they can’t trade through land because of the transgressions they’ve made listening to a man in the Vatican who manipulated them. Now, we have an imbalance we must restore back to harmony. This is not the time for scapegoats, this is not the time to show our asses, it is the time for getting shit done. Excuse my language, but Muslim, Christian, Jew, Hindu, Pagan, Buddhist, Atheist, Agnostic, etc. etc., let’s address our problems and how we can fix them like adults. Stop bickering, learn your fellow human’s custom if you wish but don’t hate him because you don’t know where he came from, what do we know about people’s total past experiences. This is the one thing I wish people would do instead of acting like children in a school yard.
i find your argument very compelling and like the way you presented it. Im a wht/str8/christn. i would like to cut and paste this to my social networks…
what the world needs is everyone to behave like children in a school yard
for they want to play and get along with eachother regardless of ones
color and religious beliefs and dress.
Great comments , The truth is we all have been lied to and looking to blame something or someone but honestly religion and government ruin and confuse us and make us afraid of one another or judgemental toward our brothers and sisters of different races. The truth is COMING!!!
thank you!
Not if there are bullues in the yard!
Well put. I really appreciate your comment.
Thank You.
@steve i say the very thing all the time, instead of these ppl/all different religions embracing love and each other and let each other be who they want, they rather fight like little children or kill! It is so ridiculos and childesh!!!
omi. muslims ISLAM are most intollerent and cruel religion in the world. in the name of islam lot of atrocities , coerce , crime , inhumane treatment , and harm is done to muslim womens. pakististan is eg where rape and kidnaping to non muslim women is commen , they even not allow 2 live them. why only non muslim even muslim women suffer burkha , fatwa, brutal and cruel behaviour by muslims men. does ISLAM TEACH RAPE WITH NON MUSLIMS WOMEN, FATWA, ATTACK ON world trade centre….. is this is teaching of islam. then why muslims dothis. killing innocent jews in israel does this is islam. god is one. in the name of god and misinterpretation of islam why molvis mullas, denounsing such a GREAT RELIGION ISLAM for their self interest and politics. muslims are illeterate therefore they become fundamentalist easily.
Just by the way you write dear shows that you are poorly educated
and know nothing about islam , just what you have seen on the news does not portray all muslims as uneducated people who like to blow themselves up
And By the way
You must be indian or pakistani
the mughals say hello
Yours sincerly
A mughal decent
You mistook what I was saying if you are responding to me, I dont believe Muslims are evil, some are the same as christians or any faith. What we need to do is leave each other alone and let live. I know that the Christians have invaded your lands and the crusades were wrong on both sides, but mainly Christians because they were occupying your lands. Basically I am trying to say this war will only end with love for one another and respect. Not forgetting the past but learning from it. I do believe that freedom is key and when in Pakistan you are killed for being female and trying to learn that is ignorance, not to say that in the US we arent ignorant because we are. I wish they would actually teach us because it is fear that has kept us where we are. Christians are really the most barbaric throughout history conquering and enslaving for no reason at all. Romans proved this and so did England trying to span the globe with intolerance so really I am sorry you took it that way. I may have expressed it wrongly I am just tired of all the hate is all, and to abolish evil we really have to come to terms and live with each other or eternal war.
For what matters if I lived in the Middle East I am the type of person that would fight America too, and you are right really I had no right to post here because I am ignorant. Trying to piece it together I should have left it alone. My neighbors are Muslim, as well as 2 of my coworkers….good people, but thanks for your insight it helped me understand a bit more.
@Alex
Many of your statements are inaccurate. Read the quran particulary read 33:50 and get a clue. Also a few real history lessons may come in handy since the Romans are famous for killing Christians.
Go right to the source if you want comparisons… read the Quran and read the Bible. Take note of the differences and what the Gods describe wish for their people and for their people to do.
Ask yourself… does one of these religions encourage people to murder, rape, theft, child molestation, torture, etc?
Then ask yourself… does one of these religions encourage love, forgiveness, charity, kindness, healing?
You are a mmuslim.You are a supporter of murder.You are uneducated .Your belief is doomed.Live by the sword die by the sword.Hidu are peaceful.Islam is dirt!
Plz read more about Islam from unbiased sources. You have incorrect information about Islam. Also, read more about how innocent Muslims and Arabs have been killed or tortured because of the Israeli occupation of Palestine.
Vengeance is not holy by any means and if it is by your religion maybe you should consider Satanism…..Satanism shares alot of the same arrogance and self stature. Seriously read the rules of Satanism first or second page of satan bible. There is a time to look past where we are and look towards our childrens futures. BTW only my second post someone used my name somehow…my first post was one of the first. The person that used my name was a bigot….I am not or at least try not to be.
Islam does not teach violence, but the followers (some) believe in dying in the name of allah is an honorable thing to be sought after. They dont teach violence, but it always seems implied when the focus of you life is dying in the name of your religion. :/
NIGGER
#yoloswag
Good they are finally standing up to EVIL it self.
Sure you will do what you do best put a bomb on
some brain washed sucker and have him or her
kill a bunch of innocent people. If you looking
for sympathy forget it. You and your people
are Evil, and proved that time and time again
with your violence. Soon the rest of the world
will grow tired of your shit and crush you. Im
sure if the roles were reversed and you were
the people with the power you would not
be as Mature,Respectful,understanding,
Responsible, and true to what is Right and wrong
You would kill all that were not the same Faith as you
I say an Eye for an Eye, I for one am sick and tired
of hearing about fallen brothers of the United States
and I know im not alone I will die for what i believe in
but i will not kill because we dont believe in the same
Faith See the difference ?
The difference in what I read in the “Quran”, verses what I read in the New Testament is, Jesus presented the message and gave the people a choice to receive him. Muhammad’s revelation to the world commands submission or retaliation. Jesus let “the woman at the well” know he knew all about her. He did not stone her or beat her.
Quran: The Victory. Verse 13. And whoever does not believe in Allah and His Apostle then surely We have prepared burning fire for the unbelievers.
Quran: The Victory. Verse 28-29. He it is Who sent His Apostle with the guidance and the TRUE RELIGION that He may make it prevail over all religions; and Allah is enough for a witness. 29Muhammad is the Apostle of Allah, and those with him are FIRM of heart against the UNBELIEVERS…..
you are an idiot if you think all muslims kill themselves or innocent people in the name of islam, people that do that are terrorists , and muslims hate terrorists, terrorists have no religion, im a muslim and i would never hurt anybody,read the quraan and you’ll see that it teaches us love and compassion to all people, don’t be like these uneducated idiots.
Don‘t hate muslims but hate islam
Thank you Amad!
wow.. listen to this guy.. investigate these religions for yourself.. islam/muslims are all about killing and tortue… all other religions are of love for one another and god… decide for yourself which side your on..
well if you think islam is like that then you are an idiot .
any religion/person that believes in the Koran/Quran wants to kill anyone who doesn’t believe in “their” God or Allah. That is the problem! It is believe thier way or die! See the problem???
Ya right Hindu Buddest killing people..,the most gentle religion of them all.
Which hindu group attacked and enslaved a nation? Which hindu king pillaged and raided mosques? Muslims are still allowed to live freely in India aren’t they? And for that matter, just to pacify all muslims, Hindustan became India, but is still referred as the land of Kafirs “Hindustan” by all islams.
1. Mohd. of Ghajni pillaged India many times.
2. Alex the Great had a mind for conquering India as well bringing devastation and loss, but thanks God, he died.
3. Mughals came, attacked, pillaged, and became rulers of a nation that had not in any way harmed them. Then, followed their atrocities.
4. The Westerners came and brought with them the crusades. The so called ‘Saint’ Francis Xavier led one such crusades which included rape, murder and decimation. Now we have St. Xavier’s School in India.
America speaks of tolerance to other religions. India speaks of “acceptance”.
How dare you to speak of the actions of a small group of radical Hindus which emerged hardly half a century ago to all these destruction going on for a millennium?
I am a proud Hindu, and proudly state that barring a few, most Hindus are cool headed, non violent, and accepting to other religions, languages and ways of life. While your so called religious leaders led to crusades and such which killed millions, we did what we could to resist but time passed, and we forgave.
So, if a God really exists, who will he embrace? People, who in the name of religion kill, rape and plunder? Or people who suffer but learn to and know to forgive?
You talk about the actions of the radical Hindutva whose only notable actions were in 2002. This group of Hindus had also suffered but unlike most, didn’t have the “forgiving” trait too much. If you are comparing this action to what has been going on for a millennium, I don’t think any words can change your mind.
We provide asylum to millions of refugees from Bangladesh and others. Just how many Hindus are there in Pakistan? After the great divide, both sides had Hindus and muslims, but while the muslims on the Indian side continued living unhindered, the Hindus on the Pakistan side were raped, murdered, tortured, and suffered unspeakable atrocities.
1. Our army doesn’t say that we attacked a country or state and the next generation will be our bastards like the Americans, who by the way had been treating the African-Americans as worse than animals just a century ago. Watch all those movies coming out.
2. We don’t simply murder another religious community like the christians do in the Jews.
3. We believe in God, and believe that our forefathers protect and show us a way of non violence and acceptance, such that in out death, we go as a free man, proud to have done no harm to our brethren.
P.S. There are almost no gay Hindus. No disrespect to the community mentioned.
Stop with your ‘peaceful muslim’ BS. Just take a look at all the muslims who slaughter innocent nonmuslims every single day in every country! Look at what just happened in the Nairobi Mall where muslims walked in and specifically targeted nomuslims! There is no way to cover up the muslim terror any longer and the TRUTH will be known by everyone soon.
What does this have to do with the difference between the words Muslim and Islam? I don’t get it.
Christians have done worse. I’m an atheist and humanitarian and I’m sick of people thinking Muslims are the evils of the world. All major religions have had events/people of the past who have committed awful, hurtful deeds. Muslims are not even one of the sketchiest.
Very true, but its the people of that religion not the religion itself. I may be wrong but it seems that Islam is taught hate not love… this has been going on since the crusades, and beyond. We all need to grow the hell up and start living as a HUMAN race not divided like a bunch of insects trailing into different species, we are all the same and live off of hate and love in a balance. No one is wrong or right in religion since it is based off of faith and happenings 20-30 generations ago or more, and also been rewritten countless times by sneaky governments and the religious themselves or royalty, hence where Christianity overtook England so the King could have divorce and many wives after. Religion is evil as long as the people that follow it us it for harm or evil intent. A gun can be very practical in alot of ways, its up to the persn holding the gun to use it wisely. These should be the teachings of all gods, to forgive and let live. You got a problem with me then leave me the hell alone, and I will leave you alone…simple thought really.
Very true, but its the people of that religion not the religion itself. I may be wrong but it seems that Islam is taught hate not love… this has been going on since the crusades, and beyond. We all need to grow the hell up and start living as a HUMAN race not divided like a bunch of insects trailing into different species, we are all the same and live off of hate and love in a balance. No one is wrong or right in religion since it is based off of faith and happenings 20-30 generations ago or more, and also been rewritten countless times by sneaky governments and the religious themselves or royalty, hence where Christianity overtook England so the King could have divorce and many wives after. Religion is evil as long as the people that follow it us it for harm or evil intent. A gun can be very practical in alot of ways, its up to the persn holding the gun to use it wisely. These should be the teachings of all gods, to forgive and let live. You got a problem with me then leave me the hell alone, and I will leave you alone…simple thought really. Religion is often misplaced in ones heart and used to brainwash or herd the weak minded into acts they wouldn’t normally do, should we fight like dogs or actually try and make this world a better place, where people can actually believe what they believe without some moron throwing hate their way.
Ah, you mention the crusades, who invaded who during the crusades? Who tried to force their religion on whom, and if they didn’t convert what happened? Also, the crusades where as much about extinguishing Jews as Muslims.
dear manoj
why this kolavery?
after all we are all indians how come you think we are with pakistan why this kolavery brother?
Mr Manoj is telling us that Muslims Invade India,,,Well Mr, you have to read the Indian History before making false allegations.Muslims came as Traders in India and Indian People converted to Islam,and then Hindus prosecuted them,as they usually use to do with their lower caste(Shudars)But Allah’s religion came in India. And There is NO Verse Of Quran which tells Muslims to Kill Non Muslims.
That’s the problem naz, you are trying to understand everything, even History from Koran. That is why you are called, “Islamic extremists”.
Muslims have a known history of slaughter of innocent Buddhists, Hindus, Jews etc, from Turkey through, Iran to India and further to Malaysia and Indonesia. Use history articles and research articles instead of Koran, since you haven’t any spiritual ability gained by meditation (cos’ you are completely dependent upon an external force to save you) to see through the past.
Muslims have blood on their hands… than any other race. A one should be open minded than just to believe what his ancestors tell , or before following his Prophet’s acts even though they are crimes against humanity.
You haven’t seen that history in Koran, but surely might have seen following in it, aren’t you..
“Kill the unbelievers wherever you find them.” Koran 2:191
“Make war on the infidels living in your neighborhood.” Koran 9:123
“When opportunity arises, kill the infidels wherever you catch them.” Koran 9:5
“Any religion other than Islam is not acceptable.” Koran 3:85
“The Jews and the Christians are perverts; fight them.”… Koran 9:30
“Maim and crucify the infidels if they criticize Islam” Koran 5:33
“Punish the unbelievers with garments of fire, hooked iron rods, boiling water; melt their skin and bellies.” Koran 22:19
“The unbelievers are stupid; urge the Muslims to fight them.” Koran 8:65
“Muslims must not take the infidels as friends.” Koran 3:28
“Terrorize and behead those who believe in scriptures other than the Qur’an.” Koran 8:12
“Muslims must muster all weapons to terrorize the infidels.” Koran 8:60
It is so disgusting and savagous I’m afraid. So as the hard evidence shown by your people every where in the world mass killings of other believers and rapes of their women even nowadays.
May all humans and animals may well and be free from the threat and torturing of Islam.
Thank you.
Read the old testament, god commanded the Israelis to kill and conquer many towns, kill men and children, and keep their women as slaves… It’s all the same BS. Muslim is an Abrahamic religion too..
1. M.K. GANDHI: “….I became more than ever convinced that it was not the sword that won a place for Islam in those days in the scheme of life. It was the rigid simplicity, the utter self-effacement of the prophet, the scrupulous regard for his pledges, his intense devotion to his friends and followers, his intrepidity, his fearlessness, his absolute trust in God and in his own mission. These, and not the sword carried everything before them and surmounted every trouble.” YOUNG INDIA, 1924. (10)
2. EDWARD GIBBON: “The greatest success of Mohammad’s life was effected by sheer moral force without the stroke of a sword.” HISTORY OF THE SARACEN EMPIRE, London, 1870.
3. A.S. TRITTON: “The picture of the Muslim soldier advancing with a sword in one hand and the Qur’an in the other is quite false.” ISLAM, London, 1951, page 21. (12)
4. DE LACY O’LEARY: “History makes it clear, however, that the legend of fanatical Muslims, sweeping through the world and forcing Islam at the point of sword upon conquered races is one of the most fantastically absurd myths that historians have ever repeated.” ISLAM AT CROSSROADS, London, 1923, page 8.
5. K.S. RAMAKRISHNA RAO: “My problem to write this monograph is easier because we are not generally fed now on that (distorted) kind of history and much time need not be spent on pointing out our misrepresentations of Islam. The theory of Islam and sword, for instance, is not heard now in any quarter worth the name. The principle of Islam, there is no compulsion in religion, is well known.” MOHAMMED THE PROPHET OF ISLAM, Riyadh, 1989, page 4.
6. JAMES A MICHENER: “No other religion in history spread so rapidly as Islam… The West has widely believed that this surge of religion was made possible by the sword. But no modern scholar accepts that idea, and the Qur’an is explicit in support of the freedom conscience.” ISLAM – THE MISUNDERSTOOD RELIGION, READERS’ DIGEST (American Edition) May 1955.
7. LAWRENCE E. BROWNE: “Incidentally these well-established facts dispose of the idea so widely fostered in Christian writings that the Muslims, wherever they went, forced people to accept Islam at the point of the sword.” THE PROSPECTS OF ISLAM, London 1944. IF YOU TOO POSSESS A SOFT, TENDER HEART AND AN OPEN MIND, DO WRITE TO US FOR SOME BASIC INFORMATION ABOUT THE WAY OF LIFE CALLED “ISLAM.” DO NOT BELIEVE IN HEARSAY AND LEARN FROM THE DIRECT SOURCES. WE ARE READY TO HELP.
:AHMED HOLT: British Civil Contractor, traveler in search of the Divine truth, spent much of his time in research and comparative study of Judaism, Christianity and Islam. He embraced Islam in 1975. (2) “The SWORD OF ISLAM is not the sword of steel. I know this by experience, because the sword of Islam struck deep into my own heart. It didn’t bring death, but it brought a new life; it brought an awareness and it brought an awakening as to who am I and what am I and for what am I here?”
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God is love and Islam is hate? I guess you forgot about the hundreds of millions killed by Christians in Gods name during the Crusade.
The nations one day will all bow down to the Creator of this world. When the Christ (Jesus) appears all will recognize him as the Son of the Living God. 2,000 years ago His blood was shed that all men would have a hope. Jesus killed no one and his true followers weren’t send forth to kill either as other religions have been taught to do through their different leaders. There is one Creator God, and one mediator between the Creator and his creation, the lamb of God (Jesus) Jesus, it must be said, rose from the DEAD! A Living Savior for all of mankind!
As in the Jewish tradition, a sacrifice would atone for sin, but they needed to return over and over each year to be forgiven for their transgressions, being only human. When Christ died for the sins of humanity (Only one time for all) – all men were afforded the grace of God, but not all would embrace a Jewish God. Jesus was both God and man, and he will return one more time to claim his own. But few will follow to their own demise.
Many of his own race do not believe in him as their Messiah, how sad.
I think Jewish people think that Messiah will come from Jerusalem, even though the ancient prophecies foretold one to come that would be born in Bethlehem of Judea.
P.S. If someone or a group of zealots kill others in the name of their religion or god, the heart of Creator God is not in them/him; he is on his own!
Where eagles fly, Greywolf
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My dear friend, I would like to ask you have u read the book quran. If you’ll read it you will actually come to know what is islam. dont see the follower’s of islam to quote the religion.
I would just like to mention here come to the common terms at least which your book vedas, manusriti and quran is having. rest will be discussed later. And what is the common thing.
In manusmiriti it is written that GOD IS ONE, AND HAS NO IMAGE, HE IS NOT BORN NOR BEGOTTEN. If u agree with this follow or else revert me on my email for more details and i will give you vol no + chapter no also. and other similarities between islam & hinduism.
Yes, because everything’s absolutely black or absolutely white. Entire populations can be summed up as “wrong”. If I, in any way, identify with a member of a group that has wronged you, it’s as if I did it myself.
Every group has been, at some point in its existence, in the majority and in the minority. Every group, when in the majority, suppresses the minority. This is a fundamental truth of humanity.
Mohamed and Christ both preached forgiveness. No-one listened. Heaven is empty. We’re all going down…
“God is love.” That is the Christian definition. Islam is submission….
This goes back to the story of Adam and Eve. Adam and Eve BOTH wanted to be like God… and the war started there. God said, “Husbands LOVE your wives… Wives SUBMIT to your husbands.” The “Bride of Israel” may just be the islamic/muslim community…
It was said that Ishmael would be a wild Donkey of a man and when Jacob blessed the tribe of Judah, he said that he “ties the colt of his donkey to the choice vine. He washes his cloak in wine and his robes in blood.” Later it says tell Daughter Zion “Your prince comes to you humble and gentle, riding the colt of a donkey.”
You see? This implies that the line of Judah was mixed with the line of Ishmael and since the woman’s seed was promised to bring the messiah, the woman’s bloodline was never traced… only father to son. No mother to daughter. The Koran gives an account of Mary. Probably worth looking into.
The masons who we are hearing more and more about, wear red hats. The story behind it is one of Muslim extreme. The streets of the Jews would run so deep with the blood of the Jews that they could dip their hats and dye them in the blood….
Ishmael’s little brother, Isaac was the son of Pharaoh. Abraham married his own sister to hide her shame and I don’t believe, other than the case of Lot, incest occurred in the Bible. Sarah had an STD and this was the cause of her shame. Genesis 16:2 and Genesis 20:18. The second pharaoh, after God closed the wombs of his entire harem, took pity on Sarah and healed her. It says that “the lord” healed her but this particular “lord” had a garden in Egypt Genesis 13:10… Sarah tells Abraham to get rid of Ishmael and his mother Hagar even pulling rank saying “May the lord judge between me and you!” Genesis 18:5…
Why would Pharaoh favor her and Isaac over Abraham and Ishmael? Later this same “Lord” encourages Abraham to go ahead and let Hagar and Ishmael go and all of Abraham’s things which he got from “The Lord” to begin with ended up going to Isaac…
This is why sacrificing Isaac wasn’t that big of a deal to Abraham. LOL
Isaac was Egyptian. The Egyptians like to wear snakes on their heads and the law makers were known as the “Amen”… Jesus called the law makers of Israel a “brood of vipers” and said they were “gods” (elohim)… the same as the sons of elohim who went to the daughters of man and had kids with them… the same elohim who made men in their own image and likeness, the same elohim who felt threatened by the construction of the tower of babyl.
He was a Donkey’s colt and he knew the Egyptian lineage of the Israeli patriarch.
Enmity was put “between the woman and thee and between your offspring and hers.” God said this to the snake. The brood of Vipers and the woman’s seed would fight… He would crush the serpent’s head and he would bruise their heel…
I am Christian. However, I have always had a deep respect and sympathy for the muslims. Furthermore, I do not profess and “Jesus died for my sins” but rather that he came in the flesh and whosoever believes in his message is saved. The mark of the beast touches on this subject…
you were bought for a price, it says…. and no one could buy or sell without the mark which is a man’s number and the number is 600, 60 and 6. The numerical values of the Hebrew letters Men, Samekh, Vav…. Vav means nail, peg, or hook. Samekh is the word used to describe upholding the head of a slaughtered lamb while it bled. Mem means people, nations, tongues, languages, waters. it is important to understand that Hebrew is read backwards, so we start with six…. Nail upheld the people/nations/tongues/languages… Jesus said “Whatever you’ve done to the least of these, you’ve done to me.” This is the body of Christ and the reason for communion…
The false messiah is here. He is upheld by nails. He is the DEAD king of the Jews… a blasphemy and a disgrace…
You were bought for a price… no one could buy or sell without the mark… it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven…
The mark is taken on the hand or head… The merkaba is the name of the four living creatures and is for the true Jewish people, ONLY. These deeply mystical occurrence is the source of all my information. It will reveal to you, the truth… Its number is Mem 600, Resh 200, Kaf 20, and Bet 2…
Again, Mem is people waters, languages, tongues, nations.
Resh is from the word “Rosh” and means wickedness or HEAD.
Kaf means, literally, palm or hand.
Bet means duality or paradox….
If we ad 2 and 6 we get 12… multiples of 12 become 144,000 which are the witnesses left behind to tell the truth before rapture of which I am one and it is LONELY let me tell you. All I do is offend people with the truth, left and right.
The duality of the merkaba is the the fruit of knowing good and evil… The same fruit that makes us like gods…. The fruit of knowing good and evil was GOOD FOR GAINING WISDOM..
Be WISE AS SNAKES… and innocent as doves.
You see?
Fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom…
God didn’t give us the spirit of fear but of love, strength and a sound mind.
The bride of the Egyptian Israel (isis/Ra/El) can never submit if she is not LOVED…
The Christian church has been used to turn against Israel and its sad because Jesus tried to create peace.
Activate your merkaba… clean out your third eye and then you will see clearly to activate someone else’s. For if your eye be single, then you will be full of light.
Truly ne of the most uninformed pieces of bable I have read in a long time, what rubbish.
These comments are limited in scope. They show only the thinking of the past few thousand years. Frederic Engels by his book (based on years of research by respected anthropologists) that humans were not always patriarchal in their societies. God is a recent concept – rooted in only the past 5000 or so years. My simple moral sense tells me that anyone who kills others in the name of God or any “prophet” is a murderer, one who should be punished and shunned.
If there are any among you who advocate such killings, please kill yourself first, before attacking anyone else.
i compleatly agree with you we all can coexsixt with everyones religious needs without having to fight. we all have the same god and we have the right to praise him the way we choose and believe how we wish. and when we accept others we learn and can gain further enlightenment.
What would you know about the Quran. Also, you guys aren’t the only good ones. You were changing the truth in cases as Indians or other relgions have affected us too.
muslims need to leave the face of this earth. what a great place this could be without those murdering, women beating, sex starved, overreacting, radical, heartless, greedy group of people, and thats being nice. so you hate the jews, you hate the christians, the hindus and every single other religion and group of people in the world. pretty damning proof that its the muslims that are the real problem. MIND YOUR OWN DAMN BUISNESS, LIVE AND LET LIVE.
If I believed in religion which is manmade, I think I would explore VEDANTA since it relates to what I believe although as a Christian I believe Christ is the way to God the Father but am not sure He is the only way for others although that is what is preached in most Christian religions.
I believe in going to the source directly and for me, and possibly only for many Christians, Christ is the only way, but I do not limit God in His way to reach out to all of us.
God, the Holy Spirit, may take whatever form God wants.
Since I saw Christ riding in clouds on June 25, 1953 and 45 minutes later
was holding my dying grandpa’s right hand who had not known anyone, not even his wife of some 60 years, for the previous 3 days and only spoke of giant bugs and darkness as he was dying of a brain tumor (the children’s version of my experience can be read at http://godsjoyfulservant.com, ONE CHILD’S MIRACULOUS STORY).
When I took his hand, the energy, light, that was in me ran from my heart, up into my throat, then down my right arm into my right hand and up my grandpa’s right hand and arm into his throat.
He slowly lifted his head off the pillow, opened his eyes slightly, and whispered my name, “Patrick.”
A very difficult experience for a 9 year young boy, and it’s taken me 60 years to realize what it was all about. I have seen and spoken to my grandpa 3 times since his passing and 2 of those experiences were witnessed by other people.
In the last 15 years I suffered for 12 years with cluster migraines which was determined to be a permanent disability and genetic, passing from my grandpa to my mother (who was a carrier but not a sufferer).
In 2009, I misplaced my bottle of Methadone (I was given nearly every known narcotic and opiate to treat the symptoms since no cure was known) and called my pain management team (there’s a real misnomer) explaining what had happened and that I had turned everything upside down and sideways to find them.
I was told pretty much, “Tough luck, you must wait until the next refill date.” And that was that. The next week was the most painful and difficult of my life. I called them again in panic, and that’s when they told me they could call in 2 prescriptions to help ease my withdrawals BUT since you already went through the worst of it, you might not need them.”
Years earlier, 26 years to be exact, my wife went ahead of me to our landlord’s party upstairs and met a young man who she was attracted to but not for the reasons you may first think. When I joined them, I found them in the kitchen; my wife sitting up on the kitchen counter, her legs and feet resting on a kitchen chair, and Lynn, was sitting at the head of the table in a chair. I asked if I could join them not assuming I could and was told, naturally, “Yes.”
Lynn looked very much like my grandpa at an earlier age from pictures of my grandpa I had seen after his passing. Shortly after joining them, Lynn turned and faced me directly and said, “I don’t know where this is coming from, but if you ever need me, I’ll be there for you.”
I looked intently at Lynn telling me he would help me if I ever needed him? That wasn’t something a stranger would tell someone they just met.
Above Lynn’s head, at a 45 degree angle off to his left and between us, I and my wife saw the bust of my grandpa (she also saw him for the first time 2 years before when he came to us in our living room but in Old Orchard Beach, Maine, and we were now in Seattle, Washington).
I turned to his figure and said, “Grandpa, you’ve lived your life here on Earth already, now it’s my turn to live my life as best I can; go rest in peace.”
With that, he was gone.
Back to when I was in my second week of withdrawals from Methadone (I still had some Percocet to use but they weren’t much help).
I got down on my knees and prayed to my grandpa to come back and help me since I was suffering from the same cluster migraines he did. Not sure why I didn’t pray to Christ but I didn’t.
My grandpa came and with him was a ball of yellow-white light.
Soon after that I found myself going through the local yellow pages searching for a Bio-feedback practitioner. I had tried bio-feedback years before without any success
so I thought it was strange I would seek one again.
The first page I turned to had a Quantum Bio-feedback practitioner which I had never heard of before but the lady was offering a 50% discount for new clients so I set up an appointment and went.
After a short interview where I did express why I was there, the same story I wrote about above, she hooked me up with many wires and returned to her desk and her large laptop computer screen. She told me things about myself only I knew.
At the end of our session she told me to look into the Compassion Center because they could sign me up with an Oregon Medical Marijuana card.
I had smoked and eaten marijuana during my hippie days but since I was never a smoker, I found smoking it harder than eating it.
Before I went to a meeting, I looked up cluster migraine treatment online and found a book by a San Diego Doctor who was successfully treating his cluster migraines with pot.
That was enough for me so I went to the Compassion Center (appropriately named) and got signed up. I made chocolate fudge and cut the finished product into 1” X “1 X 1 cubes, and began experimenting to see how much of it I needed to ease the symptoms at least not thinking I would be cured.
By this time I was completely off all narcotics and opiates and only continued with the Amitriptyline for a sleeping aid.
I discovered shortly after starting eating the chocolate fudge that I only needed a 1” X 1” X 1/16th” slice off the 1” X 1 X 1” cube and put it on my tongue to let it dissolve.
Within 9 months I was CURED and have not had to use pot or anything else for cluster migraines since I haven’t had one in over 3 years.
Occasionally, I get a slight headache usually from the stress of multi-tasking (writing an creating kid’s books as well as inventing) which a couple of Tylenol pills quickly stops the headaches.
I learned from my new Neurologist that the pain meds were actually creating rebound migraines/headaches, and when she learned my story, she had me write it up and is giving it to her other patients (I don’t see her anymore) to show that they can get off the pain meds.
In October 2009, I was visited once again by Christ while writing in my studio up river.
I was told to spread the word (I know this sounds like I’m still on narcotics or pot or just plain nuts) to pray for His return. The actual words He used were, “Pray for MY return” and to spread that message.
Now many Christians think that is nuts since only God and not Christ knows the day, the hour, the minute He will return His Son to Earth to make Earth as is in Heaven for at least the first 1000 years, after which the final judgment will be pronounced as the story goes.
But all I can say is judge the message not the messenger. If I were claiming that God or Christ told me to kill a bunch of people or anything so horrendous, then truly you MUST judge the messenger, but pray for Christ’s return?
Those other Christians who say I’m nuts to pray for Christ’s return I often ask, “Then what should I pray to God for, money, good health, etc?
The only other prayer I can think of is to pray to God that His will be done in my life and that is exactly what He has done through His Son, my personal Lord and Savior, Christ Jesus who has come to me to use me for healing others at times in my life, and those times are the most treasured since giving up one’s own will to have the Holy Ghost take over cannot be measured except to say they have been the most joyful moments in my life.
God’s Joyful Servant,
patrick “GB” harrison
I’m glad I read this, I had a complete misunderstanding regarding Islam and Muslim… But, I believe if we out law all religion then and only then would we realize world peace.. John Lennon had it so right, Imagine, imagine there’s no religion, no heaven and hell, nothing left to fight for…
I am a total non believer.. I am not an atheist either, that’s a strong belief as well..
Hey if 1 muslim is a terrorist than I’ll say that he/she doesn’t belong to Islam because Islam itself means ‘Peace’. That terrorist is not a good muslim. Islam never teaches the wrong thing. You shouldn’t blame Islam for people who are muslims who don’t even know the ‘I’ of Islam. It’s not Islam’s fault that that person is bad. It is also not the whole muslim community’s fault. We are being wrongly blamed for something we didn’t even do.
TO STAND SILENT AND/OR AFRAID ENABLES “TERRORIST”
Then don’t be silent. If you’re talking about people in Muslim countries, their harsh laws make it how they really cannot do anything. It’s up to free nations to help them. I mean, would you not be scared if speaking out meant you could be imprisoned or killed? + why is everyone on here so ignorant about Muslims.
Salaam sister, sorry your interpretation of Islam from Arabic is wrong, Islam means ‘submission to the will of Allah’ and then attaining peace from the One Who Has Created you (Allah) so please avoid mistranslation and for the person alleging Muslims invaded India; If Muslims forced India to Islam then how comes there are billions of non-Muslims in India (they should not be or at least in minority but it is the opposite as non-Muslims are in majority!) please watch the following video that will answer all or most of misconceptions about Islam
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kn8dzCx2Uqw (Dr Zakir Naik ‘Misconceptions about Islam)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEb2nRYQa44 (Terrorism is not a Muslim monopoly by Dr Zakir Naik (full)
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I recommend you study the history of India using NON-MUSLIM sources.
Mr Stuart Parsons You said NON Muslim sourses,,,,Ok we will give you NON MUSLIM words.
1. M.K. GANDHI: “….I became more than ever convinced that it was not the sword that won a place for Islam in those days in the scheme of life. It was the rigid simplicity, the utter self-effacement of the prophet, the scrupulous regard for his pledges, his intense devotion to his friends and followers, his intrepidity, his fearlessness, his absolute trust in God and in his own mission. These, and not the sword carried everything before them and surmounted every trouble.” YOUNG INDIA, 1924. (10)
2. EDWARD GIBBON: “The greatest success of Mohammad’s life was effected by sheer moral force without the stroke of a sword.” HISTORY OF THE SARACEN EMPIRE, London, 1870.
3. A.S. TRITTON: “The picture of the Muslim soldier advancing with a sword in one hand and the Qur’an in the other is quite false.” ISLAM, London, 1951, page 21. (12)
4. DE LACY O’LEARY: “History makes it clear, however, that the legend of fanatical Muslims, sweeping through the world and forcing Islam at the point of sword upon conquered races is one of the most fantastically absurd myths that historians have ever repeated.” ISLAM AT CROSSROADS, London, 1923, page 8.
5. K.S. RAMAKRISHNA RAO: “My problem to write this monograph is easier because we are not generally fed now on that (distorted) kind of history and much time need not be spent on pointing out our misrepresentations of Islam. The theory of Islam and sword, for instance, is not heard now in any quarter worth the name. The principle of Islam, there is no compulsion in religion, is well known.” MOHAMMED THE PROPHET OF ISLAM, Riyadh, 1989, page 4.
6. JAMES A MICHENER: “No other religion in history spread so rapidly as Islam… The West has widely believed that this surge of religion was made possible by the sword. But no modern scholar accepts that idea, and the Qur’an is explicit in support of the freedom conscience.” ISLAM – THE MISUNDERSTOOD RELIGION, READERS’ DIGEST (American Edition) May 1955.
7. LAWRENCE E. BROWNE: “Incidentally these well-established facts dispose of the idea so widely fostered in Christian writings that the Muslims, wherever they went, forced people to accept Islam at the point of the sword.” THE PROSPECTS OF ISLAM, London 1944. IF YOU TOO POSSESS A SOFT, TENDER HEART AND AN OPEN MIND, DO WRITE TO US FOR SOME BASIC INFORMATION ABOUT THE WAY OF LIFE CALLED “ISLAM.” DO NOT BELIEVE IN HEARSAY AND LEARN FROM THE DIRECT SOURCES. WE ARE READY TO HELP.
:AHMED HOLT: British Civil Contractor, traveler in search of the Divine truth, spent much of his time in research and comparative study of Judaism, Christianity and Islam. He embraced Islam in 1975. (2) “The SWORD OF ISLAM is not the sword of steel. I know this by experience, because the sword of Islam struck deep into my own heart. It didn’t bring death, but it brought a new life; it brought an awareness and it brought an awakening as to who am I and what am I and for what am I here?”
Islam means peace? You’re directly contradicting the article.
yes it is true Islam means peace Islam is prefect religion and we are proud for of Muslim!
Moslem means literally ‘people of the mosque’ hence the similarity in the words moslem and mosque. (Muslim is a western distortion of the original word moslem… like the word Koran is a western distortion of word Qu’ran)
Islam literally means ‘one who submitts to God’s word, the Qu’ran and no other’
The two are not exclusively the same – actually they’re pretty close opposites.
One can be a devotee of the Mosque culture (the pagan-like rituals, the neo-fasting, adhereing to words from other than God like from the imans/the hadiths-fatwahs/other man made distortions of God’s word/etc.), and still not be an Islamist.
Actually, Moslems are as misguided as those neo-christians that have ventured down the path of distortion of God’s words that christianity (‘new testament’) had become after the vatican/illuminati/free masons/jesuits/templars subverted the messenger/prophet Jesus’s message God sent to us for their own (and thus satan’s) purposes ( and are as misguided as the Judaists that ventured following the distortions of God’s word in zionism/talmud/the ‘old testament’ as reworked by the rabbi’s/pharisees/etc.)
A devotee of the Qu’ran (‘final testament’), or true islamist, follows only the Qu’ran using ration/logic/reason.
Islamic Reformist woulds be a better description of one who follows only the Qu’ran as this phrase is meant to distinguish them from the more typical misguided path taken by the moslem/muslim.
Islam; The Rational, Logical Faith:
ANY RATIONAL PERSON WITH SCIENTIFIC KNOWLEDGE WILL COME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT (unlike other religious scriptures) THE GLORIOUS QUR’AN NEVER CONTRADICTS OR CONFLICTS WITH MODERN ESTABLISHED SCIENCE AND LOGIC…There are numerous scientific miracles mentioned in the Qur’an which have only recently been discovered by modern science. This is a book revealed 1400 years ago to a unlettered man (prophet Mohammad, peace be upon him) who could neither read nor write.
The Qur’an has recorded such amazing scientific information that many elite scientists & Atheists have embraced Islam. Some prominent examples include Professor Keith Moore, Dr Maurice Bucaille, Dr. Jeffrey Lang, Dr.Hormoz PhD, Physicist & Scientist Omar Dexter, Dr. Laurence Brown, and others (full list available on request or check them on http://www.youtube.com ). Please check out many Quranic verses which refer many areas of scientific phenomena from the video of Dr. Zakir Naik ‘Qur’an and modern Science’ full) & ‘No Brainer’ by Yusuf Estes & The Deen Show: “The Top 5 Arguments For The Existence of God” & ‘You will be Judged’ by Khalid Yasin & many others which are available on request. Then comes the Challenge: “Do they not consider Qur’an with care, had it been from anyone besides Allah (God-Almighty), there would have been many contradictions in it.” Quran Surah An-Nisa 4:82.
Islam means sincere submission to the Will of God (Allah). Unlike other faiths that are being named after Prophets, peoples & places Islam however, does not mean Mohammedanism & Muslims are not Mohammedans because he who worships Prophet Mohammad has left the fold of Islam.
Prophet Mohammad is not the founder of Islam but he is the Last Messenger & Final Prophet of God (thus his teachings should be followed to the end of time). Muslims are not allowed to worship anyone or anything other than God-Al-Mighty alone, not Mohammad, Jesus, Moses (peace be upon them) or any other beings or places. However Muslims do love & respect all these prophets & messengers but do not worship them nor call upon them in need or in prayer. This is Islam, the pure, rational & the ONLY truly monotheistic faith which does not liken the Creator to His 1 creation.
Some people allege that prophet Mohammad copied from their religious books regarding the scientific verses but they fail to realise that had this been the case, why then is there not a single scientific error in the Qur’an? Given that these other religious texts contain numerous scientific errors, how could Mohammad (pbuh) have known which parts were scientifically accurate and which were not? Thus these allegations are illogical! In fact God admonishes their false claims in the following Qur’anic verse Surah Al-Baqarah 2:79 ” Woe to those who write the book with their own hands, and then say: This is form Allah, to traffic with it a miserable price! Woe to them for what their hands do write and woe to them for what they earn!”
Furthermore, we can also prove from the character/biography of Prophet Mohammad (pbuh) that he was not a liar as (1) The non-Muslims of his time used to call him al-Amin (the trustworthy) & as-Siddiq (meaning the truthful) and (2) If Prophet Mohammad (God-Forbid) was the author of Qur’an, how come the Qur’an is promoting/elevating other prophets like Adam, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph, Moses & Jesus (pbut) instead of himself? Why would Prophet Mohammad say that the mother of Jesus (Virgin Mary (pbuh)) was the chosen woman above all nations? If he was the author, surely he would have chosen his own mother, wife or any Arab woman. Why did he mention a Jewess? (3) He was not after money or fame as he was offered all the wealth of the Arabs at the time & was offered a kingdom on the condition that he abandon his mission to promote Islam. He refused & responded by saying “by Allah, if you place the sun in my right hand & the moon in my left hand, I will never give up this message until I perish therein”. (4) There was a solar Eclipse the day his son (named Ibrahim) died & people were saying look the day is being darkened due to respect for the son of the Prophet but. Instead of using this situation to promote himself or elevate his status with the people he instead said while pointing up to the sky “This is the sun and this is the moon, they’re from the signs of Allah, & they do not rise or set or eclipse for the death or birth of any man, so when you see this, pray to your Lord” & he taught us the prayer of the eclipse.
Are these not the words of a prophet? Amongst many proofs of his prophet hood we have only mentioned 4. Now it’s your choice to accept or reject to worship the One Who sent this Prophet & The One Who created you and the Universe.
Unlike other religions & philosophies Islam is unique because it represents a complete way of life, to the extent that it even teaches its followers how to clean themselves, worship, interact with others & even how (morally) to go to bed, the toilet & other daily activities including sexual relations between husband & wife. All of these things are considered forms of worship because they prevent corruption & allow us to live our lives in a way that pleases our Creator.
If you’re still not convinced of the creation of the world by God but believe in the Big Bang then consider this: the Qur’an says in Surah Anbiya 21:30 that Big Bang did happen (“Do the unbelievers not see, that the heavens & the earth were joined together (as one unit body) & We1 split them asunder”). If you allege that we’re a product of random selection/chance then I suggest you think again as we know that ‘nothing comes from nothing’. If there isn’t a creator then how comes all the galaxies/planets are in such perfect order? Even a small explosion creates chaos, so how can whole galaxies swim smoothly in the Milky-way (orbits) after a HUGE explosion (the Big Bang)?
Do you ever ask yourself the question “who created God”? This is as illogical as asking the question “If Mr. John gave birth to a child, is the child a girl or boy?”. If you’re intelligent, you’ll say “a man (Mr. John) cannot give birth” so the question itself is flawed & illogical. Hence the question “who created God” is similarly illogical, as God is uncreated and He is the Creator. Finally, Islam is not just a religion but a complete way of life..though Qur’an is not a book of science it contains scientific miracles. Everything in the Qur’an is presented in a logical and intelligent manner. Even though it was revealed over 1400 years ago it is a religion for all times & its laws will never become out of date. A religion for all times & all peoples, The Universal Faith.
PS. For those Philosophers who deny Allah/God-Almighty (after clear proofs have been given to them) we have the following response: “According to you there’s no God due to a lack of testable evidence. You reason that if you don’t see, hear or smell God then He doesn’t exist. However I don’t see, hear or smell your brain, so does this mean that you don’t have a brain?”
To become a Muslim one should make the following declaration of faith (preferable before 2 witnesses): “There is no deity worthy of worship but Allah and Mohammad is the Messenger of Allah. Footnote: 1 The word He or His used above for God is not gender-based but rather (Huwa: He) an Arabic expression of honour. The word 1 We (Nahno or Khalaqna) used for God (above) is not a term of plurality but rather represents the royal style of respect when referring to oneself like when a king or queen addresses their people e.g.” we have decreed so & so…”
NB; In over 1400 years the Qur’an has not changed by even a single letter, let alone a word. It is exactly how it was revealed to Prophet Mohammad (pbuh) via Angel Gabriel. 100% pure and uncorrupted. The Glorious Qur’an challenges all humankind (with easy but stern challenge) to try produce just a chapter somewhat similar like unto Qur’an (“And if you are in doubt as to that which We have revealed to Our servant (Prophet Mohammad), then produce one chapter somewhat like it (min mithlihi) and call on your witnesses besides Allah if you are truthful. But if you cannot do it and for a surety/fact (challenge) you can NOT do it, then be prepared for the Fire (of Hell) whose fuel is men and stones it is prepared for the unbelievers!!” Qur’an 2:23-24.. ..Qur’an is the Book of facts: “Say; the Truth has come and falsehood perished. For falsehood is by its nature bound to perish” 17:81. The Qur’an has enough ‘Proof’ to satisfy a commoner as well as an elite Scientist… The Book that has been memorized cover to cover (entirely) by billions of people (Muslims around different parts of the World) despite most of them not even being Arab. …>>For more information & authentic Islamic literature please contact us on dawahgs@yahoo.co.uk alternatively purchase a copy of Qur’an, Sahih Al-Bukhari & Sahih Muslim in your language…Thank you for your time & consideration…
tl;dr.
“Logical Faith” is an oxymoron.
soooo…. OLD ARGUMENT: CRUSADES
Today’s Christians don’t
Today’s Muslims still do and always have and probably always will – in the name of whom?
Today’s Muslims will say ‘we don’t’ but they do.
Holy Wars that is…
Moslem means literally ‘people of the mosque’ hence the similarity in the words moslem and mosque. (Muslim is a western distortion of the original word moslem… like the word Koran is a western distortion of word Qur’an)
Islam literally means ‘one who submitts to God’s word, the Qur’an and no other’
The two are not exclusively the same – actually they’re pretty close opposites.
One can be a devotee of the Mosque culture (the pagan-like rituals, the neo-fasting, adhereing to words from other than God like from the imans/the hadiths-fatwahs/other man made distortions of God’s word/etc.), and still not be an Islamist.
Actually, Moslems are as misguided as those neo-christians that have ventured down the path of distortion of God’s words that christianity (‘new testament’) had become after the vatican/illuminati/free masons/jesuits/templars subverted the messenger/prophet Jesus’s message God sent to us for their own (and thus satan’s) purposes ( and are as misguided as the Judaists that ventured following the distortions of God’s word in zionism/talmud/the ‘old testament’ as reworked by the rabbi’s/pharisees/etc.)
A devotee of the Qur’an (‘final testament’), or true islamist, follows only the Qur’an using ration/logic/reason.
Islamic Reformist woulds be a better description of one who follows only the Qur’an as this phrase is meant to distinguish them from the more typical misguided path taken by the moslem/muslim.
Fixed typo Qu’ran to Qur’an…
Brother truth (September 8, 2010 • 4:53 pm)
You given your name is TRUTH. But you didn’t understand what is truth? Why they (America, Europe and Isrel blood suckers are created a name against muslims are Terrors. Becasue they totally afraid and upset of the groth of Islam. Day by Day, Islam is growing very past. So, they arranged a conference in Isrel on the middle of 1996, finally they found an solution that we have to creat a name. All the human sould run away when they meet any one of the muslims. So, they destroyed twin tower, they destroyed Iraqs’ total wealth, peace, and economy, Totally destroyed Egypts’, Syrias’, Lebonans’ kenyas’ sudans’ Africas’ Yemens’ peace, unity, economy and wealth. Now they are planning and playing to destroy Irans’ economy. Because they want money from Muslim contries. They want to stole all the ecomics and wealths from Arabic Peninsula. They want to control Cruide oils price by them. They want to stole all Gold and minerals from the Arabic Peninsula.
How those are possible? Only the solution is we have to create a bad impression against Islam and Muslims, that is “Muslims are Terrors”. for example, in 2006, petrol purification contract was complted in Saudi and Bangladesh which is done by America. After that, Bangladesh given that contract to Japan for high profit. But blood sucker America is not digest this, so he tried to make a big trouble. But she (Bangladesh President) said that this is business, if you give more than Japans’ contract, we are ready to give to you. So, after hited by a slipper (foot wear) on Americas’ face, they entered in KSA. In KSA, after their contract, they (KSA) are not ready to give to America. They (America) afraid, because this is very big contract and they are not ready to loose the Gold Duck. So, they put boms around Saudi Arabia and shown that these are done by terrors, so, we are giving you security and give the petrol purification contract to us. They (KSA) agreed and did, now-a-days, no boms, no murders and no more blasts. In Pakistan also, they (American) did a lot, but now they totally destroyed their economics and wealth. Why?
Because they (Amrcirans, Europeans and Isrelians) want to stop Islams’ growth, want to loot Muslsims Property and economics, want to seperate from the unity to make a easy way to loot their total Economic. This is the True Mr. Truth.
But no one of non muslim including you will not accept those truths. Because The Great Said in his Quran that “summun bukkumun umyun fahum laa yergioon ( صُمٌّ بُكْمٌ عُمْيٌ فَهُمْ لَا يَرْجِعُونَ)” Meaning: they are having ear, mouth and Eye, but they will not understood the truth and they will not come to the way of stright and truth.
So, please try to undertand about Islam and try to read Quran and Hadis daily for just 5 to 10 minutes to know about the truth, about the life, about the world, about the Betrayer – Sly – Hypocrite – Conspirator – Anarchist (American, European and Isrelis).
And that is why Islam,Muslim is not a religion, but in fact a cult. It’s a following of people who use death, killing innocent people, no respect for human life or the betterment of humans, rather they use death as a way of frocing others to believe or convert to thier beliefs….terrorism.
And christians haven’t done thesame thing? Im sorry but the truth is all majorreligionshave done unspeakable things to get where they are and all have millions of ppls blood on their hands, most ppl nowadays arepracticing religions that their ancestors were forced to practice.
Could not have put it better myself.
I am pretty sure it was a Christian man that detonated a bomb at a federal building in Oklahoma city when he was angry at the U.S. government. This was indeed a suicidal bombing just like these “terrorist” would do. Actually he’s concidered a terrorist. America considered it the worst act of terrrorism since 9/11, by a regular White man in America. So…
Concept of God in Major Religions (Please let’s unite on NOT only believe in One God but also worship Him Alone without intermediaries)
Hinduism:
Those whose intelligence has been stolen by material desires worship dummy gods: Bhugwad Geeta Chapter 7 Verse 20
Ekam Evaditiyum (meaning God is only One without a second) Chandogya Upanishad 6:2:1
Na Tasya Pratima Asti ( meaning There is no Image or Idol of Him: Yajurved 32:31
Ma Chiddanyadvi Shansata ( “O friends do not Worship anybody but Him, the Devine One”) Rigveda Book 8:1:1
Christianity:
God is not a man nor a son of man. Numbers 23:19…and this is life eternal, that they might know Thee The ‘Only One’ True God, and Jesus Christ, which Thou has sent: Bible, John 17:3…Jesus of Nazareth-a man approved of God: Mathew 5:17-20..and Jesus merely repeated what Moses had said: “Shama Israelo Adonai Hayno Adna Ikhad – Hear O Israel: The Lord our God is One God: Mark 12:29.
Sikhism:
There exists but One God, Who is called the Creator, free from fear and hate, immortal not begotten, Self Existent, Great and Compassionate: Sri Guru Granth Sahib Vol: 1 Japuji the first verse. He is also called: ‘Wahe Guru’-The One True God, Rahim, Karim
Judaism:
Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is One. Deuteronomy 6:4-9. I am the Lord; & besides Me there is no saviour: Isaiah 43:11.Thou shalt have none other gods before me. thou shalt not make thee any graven image or any likeness of anything that is in the heaven above or that is in the earth beneath or that is in the water beneath the earth. Thou shalt not bow down to them, nor serve them; for I, thy God, am a jealous God: Deuteronomy: 5:7-9 & Exodus: 20:3-5
Zoroastrianism (Parsiism):
The Greatest: Yasna, 31:7, Beneficent-Hudai: Yasna:33:11 & 48:3 Bountiful-Spenta: Yasna: 43:4, Davasatir, Ahura Mazda: (1) He is One (2) nothing resembles Him (3) He is without an origin or end (4) He has no father or mother, wife or son…
Islam:
“Say: He is Allah, The One and Only, Allah, The Eternal , He begets not, nor is He begotten, And There is nothing like unto Him.” Glorious Qur’an: 112:4 …”If there were, in the heavens and the earth, other gods besides Allah, there would have been confusion in both! But Glory be to Allah, the Lord of the Throne: (High is He) above what they attribute to Him!” Al-Quran 21:22
Conclusion:
Ultimately all major religions believe in existence of One God, but due to through the passage of time most of the religious scriptures have been distorted & changed by people for their own benefits. The creed of many religions has thus been distorted from monotheism to pantheism or polytheism due to distortion & corrupting the message of worshiping One God Alone!
Furthermore,
We can also conclude from Buddhist scriptures that Buddha never claimed divinity either but people seem to love to worship the creation than the Creator…The Glorious Qur’an urges Muslims to preach but not force their religion on anybody: “Say: O people of the Book! Come to common terms as between us and you: That we worship none but Allah (God); that we associate no partners with Him; That we raise not among ourselves, lords and patrons other than Allah! If they turn back, say; ‘you bear witness that we (at least) are Muslims (meaning we bow to the Will of God)”: Qur’an 3:64
Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) in Various Religious Scriptures (amongst many only a few have been selected urging non-Muslims to follow his path till the end of time)
Hinduism:
Atharvaveda Bhavishya Purana Prati Sarag Parv III Khand 3 Adhay 3 Shloka 5 to 8 (&10 to 27. “A malecha (belonging to a foreign country and speaking a foreign language) spiritual teacher will appear with his companions. His name will be Mohammad. Raja (Bhoj) after giving this Maha Dev Arab (of angelic disposition) a bath in the Panchgavya & Ganga water (i.e. purifying him of all sins) offered him the present of his sincere devotion and showing him all reverence said, “I make obedience to thee. O ye! The pride of mankind, the dweller in Arabia, Ye have collected a great force to kill the Devil and you yourself have been protected from the malecha opponents.”
Sikhism:
Page 14 Bhai Bhala’s Janam sakhi: Baba Guru Nanak preached: ” Pekh padho Kalama rab da Mohammad nal milay. Ho ya mashuk-e-khuda yeda hoya Yallah” (Translation: ” O pious people: Recite the kalma of the Creator adding to it the name Mohammad. Who is beloved by God by dedication of his very self to Allah”
Christianity:
Glorious Qur’an 7 verse 157: “Those who follow the Messenger, the unlettered Prophet. Bible Book of Isaiah chapter 29 verse 12: “And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, and he saith, I am not learned. ” When Archangel Gabriel commanded Muhammad by saying Iqra -“Read”, he replied, “I am not learned” Quranic Surah Al-‘Alaq (Read/Recite/Proclaim!) 96..John 16: 12-13: I (Jesus) have many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now howbeit when he, the spirit of Truth come he will guide you into all Truth, for he shall not speak of himself, but all that he hear that shall he speak, and he will show you things to come, he shall glorify me”. {Guiding to ALL TRUTH Prophet Mohammad did it, 2nd prophesy; he shall NOT speak of himself but all that he hears (from God (Qur’an) that shall he speak, 3rd; he showed us things to come by miracle of Qur’an that scientists only now discover as scientific facts (so thus not a single scientific error in Qur’an) 4th; he shall glorify me, (3rd chapter of Qur’an Ale Imran & Surah Mariam or Chapter Mary 19 {specially named after the mother of Jesus (such chapter does not even exist in the Bible & neither chapter Jesus but Qur’an uplifts Jesus’ status as well as God’s Final Messenger Mohammad does it…
Buddhism:
Chakkavatti Sinhnad Suttanta D. III, 76: “There will arise in the world a Buddha named Maitreya ( benevolent one, an enlightened one, endowed with wisdom in conduct, auspicious:” What he has realised by the knowledge he will publish to this universe. He will preach his religion, glorious in its origin, glorious at its climax, glorious at the goal, in the spirit and the letter. He will proclaim a religious life, wholly perfect and thoroughly pure; even as I now preach my religion and a like life do proclaim. He will keep up the society of monks numbering many thousands, even as now I keep up a society of monks numbering many hundreds” Gospel of Buddha Carus pg. 217…
Zoroastrianism/Parsiism:
Zend Avesta Farvardin Yasht chapter 28 verse 129 (Sacred Books of the East, volume 23, Zend Avesta Part II pg. 220): “Whose name will be the Victorious, Soeshyant and whose name will be Astvat-ereta. He will be Soeshyant (The Beneficent one) because he will benefit the whole bodily world. He will be Astvat-ereta (he who makes the people, bodily creatures rise up) This Prophecy applies to no other person more perfectly than to Muhammad (pbuh): The Prophet was not only victorious at Fatah Makkah but was also merciful when he let go the blood thirsty opponents by saying: “There shall be no reproof against you this day”.Soeshyant means the ‘praised one’ (refer Hasting’s Encyclopedia), which translated in Arabic means Muhammad (pbuh). & in Zamyad Yasht 16 : 95
Judaism:
Almighty God speaks to Moses in Book of Deuteronomy chapter 18 verse 18: “I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and I will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.” Book of Deuteronomy chapter 18:19 “And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not harken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him.” Muhammad (pbuh) is prophesied in the Book of Isaiah. Song of Solomon Page 1155:Chapter V, Verse 16: Hikko mamittakim we kullo ‘Mohammadim’, zehdoodeh wa zehraee bayna Jarusalem” This Hebrew text has been translated as “His mouth is most sweet, yea: he is altogether lovely (in actual fact it’s Mohammad). This is my beloved, and this is my Friend, O daughters of Jerusalem”
NB:
More similarities include; Hinduism & Christianity religious scriptures prescribes veil for females to cover their head & to wear modest clothing (loose-fit & not tight-fit nor see trough or skin color nor half sleeves) “RigVeda:8 Hymn:33 V19 & more & I Timothy 2:9, I Corinthians 11:3-10, Mathew 2:28, . Islam. Sahih Muslim2128, Sharh of Nawawi 1603, Qur’an 24:30-31, 33:59, Bukhari 6:60:|H282,1:8:|H 368)..>>Christianity: Jesus was circumcised Luke 2:21, Jesus had a beard. He (Jesus) fell on his face & prostrated to his Lord; Mathew; 16:39 (like Muslims do 5 times a day) & the texts prohibits magic/horoscopes, alcohol & pork. & Hindu’s are allowed to eat non-veg; Mahabharata; Anushashan Parva CH.88, Manusmriti: CH:5 V 30 & should put 8 parts of bodies on the ground (‘shashtang’) (like Muslims do 5 times a day as 5 daily prayers is the only main thing that keeps one Muslim (Sahih Muslim 1/146, Thirmidhi 2622 etc). Things have to be practical i.e. one who claims to love God but does not follow His apostles’ claims are flawed & as illogical as one who works in a company but never plays a role in any task, will the boss keep him or kick him out of the job for just sitting around & no intention to work there? We are Not being ordered by God-Almighty to worship Moses, Jesus, Mohammad, (peace be upon them), any saints or any other beings but God Alone, none besides God & none along with God, but God-Alone, direct without intermediaries but via teachings of His Last Prophet & Final Messenger Mohammad (may peace be upon him) thus it’s only logical that we should choose to beseech God instead of His creation, hence the word ‘Islam’ meaning ‘submission to God’ & Muslim is ‘one who has submitted to God’)… we should avoid superstitions, religious innovations including no: 13, 666 or 786 & shrines as these are nothing but works of the devil diverting servants from the pure worship of their Creator… One can embrace Islam easily simply by uttering the following words (preferable before 2 witnesses): there is but One God & that Mohammad is His Final Messenger & Last Prophet… Glorious Qur’an is unchanged Book of God wherein there is no doubt & Qur’an has no contradictions of any kind: “Do they not consider Qur’an with care, had it been from anyone besides God, there would have been many contradictions in it.” 4:82. Qur’an is the Book of facts: “Say; the Truth has come and falsehood perished. For falsehood is by its nature bound to perish” 17:81. The Qur’an has enough ‘Proof’ to satisfy a commoner as well as an elite Scientist… >>> PS: The Glorious Qur’an challenges all humankind (with easy but stern challenge) to try produce just a chapter somewhat similar like unto Qur’an (“And if you are in doubt as to that which We have revealed to Our servant (Prophet Mohammad), then produce one chapter somewhat like it (min mithlihi) and call on your witnesses besides God if you are truthful. But if you cannot do it and for a surety you can NOT do it, then be prepared for the Fire (of Hell) whose fuel is men and stones it is prepared for the unbelievers!!” Qur’an 2:23-24…The Glorious Qur’an has been memorized entirely cover to cover, word by word in its original Arabic language by millions of people (Muslims) around the World despite most of them not even being Arabs!!
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Terrorism is a political reaction to colonialism. Terrorist do not kill innocents because they want them to convert, they kill innocents because they are rebelling against Western occupation and the dictators in the Muslim world. No terrorist organisation has ever said that they are fighting because people won’t convert. No, they are fighting against the occupation. I’m not saying that their reaction is correct, killing innocents is a terrible crime, but so is occupying other people’s countries. If we want peace, we should condemn both terrorism and occupation, instead of attacking the faith of over 1 billion people.
muslims invaded so many countries and killed raped womens forcefully converted people into muslim. even today muslims allover world kill americans, israelies, jews, hindu’s women raped and converted frequently in pakistan and their is no law to protect them. muslim women suffer most. forced o wear burkha, no right they have , all fatwas are for them only. men is free to do anything. Islam do not teach. its mullas who misinterpret Islam for their self interest and creat hateret,enemity in muslims towards other religion in the name of god.
In response to RAFI:
If all ‘American, European..’ people are ‘Betrayer – Sly – Hypocrite – Conspirator – Anarchist’ then why on earth are there so many of you living in our countries? If all followers of Islam felt this way about the nations who provide refuge and solace, with a chance for a better life (an excuse some are known to use), surely they would be horrified to even step foot in America or Europe?? No?
And as for the ridiculous statement saying American’s and European’s want to ‘loot Muslims property and economics’ – I very much think it is the other way around. A perfect example is in the UK, where Muslims take full advantage of free healthcare and housing amongst other benefits provided by this so-called blood-sucking country! You forget that you came to us, and you repay by trying to blow us up? Correct me if I am wrong but that is blood-sucking and hypocrisy right there.
We respect that every human-being has a right to believe in who/what they wish to, but when that person/belief (whether it be christian/muslim etc) threatens lives or livelyhoods then that person has NO place in society, none whatsoever.
Has any ‘blood-sucking’ individual ever stood infront of Muslims’ mourning their dead whilst burning a Qur’an? Who were the ones who stood in a mob burning poppys in the UK on Remembrence Day? – a mob of Islamists that’s who!
Bottom line is RAFI, take a look in the mirror and have a word with yourself before you start contradicting yourself and your beliefs.
Wow, I would like to remind the gentlemen about the Europeans are like blood sucking leeches. Throughout history we have seen them going to other countries around the world and enslaving the people and looting them clean. Now after robbing and consuming the wealth of many countries you shameless Europeans talk about “helping people from under developed” countries, about giving asylum blah blah blah. There has never been a race on the face of the earth as dirty as the European race.
Really? Ever heard of khan or xerxes? You’re just like everyone else and want someone to blame…Every group of people throughout time has had some bad examples of the society as a whole…educate yourself before you speak.
What has Xerxes got to do with it??? I am talking about the Europeans who are supposedly out of their dark ages. Why do you want to make reference to what happened 2500 years ago? If you look back in time you will find much more interesting things in the mirror. 😉
I reference history because time does not erase what various groups have done…if America and Europe are so horrible why do immigrants flock there? Why do underdeveloped countries accept aid? Why are Islamic followers going to these nations? Noone from your country is bad, right? Your argument is flawed…only Europe has done wrong to other peoples? How about you not single out one scapegoat and consider blaming your problems on EVERY society that has influence over you? Europe and the western developed countries have never contributed any good to any other society…including yours? You sound like a follower sheep in denial…with some major anger/blame issues….everything is in some way everyone’s fault…you have never contributed to negativity? Unless you’re the epitome of perfection…STFU!
STFU??? I can understand your frustration. I come from the Republic of India, and we Indians both Muslims and Hindus alike know the kindhearted and generous Europeans like most other nations. You are correct MY COUNTRY HAS NEVER INVADED AND ENSLAVED ANY OTHER NATION like you people have done. Yes people from developing countries come to your land so as to earn a living AND NOT IMPRESSED BY YOUR CULTURE AND TRADITIONS AND MORALS.
Seriously? First, Rafi, please learn to spell. Second, out of all the countries in the world, only the U.S., Europe, and Israel are bad?! You are just as crazy as those you speak of. Neither Christianity and Islam are not the problem….STUPID, IGNORANT people are. Real Islamic followers are not the crazy extremists, nor are the abortion bombers true Christians. Quit ruining both religions! Stick to what is written in the Bible and Qur’an, quit interpreting everything the way you want it, use common sense and an analytical/rational approach and you’ll find that it comes down to being a good person, spreading the word, loving all, and submitting yourself to GOD. That’s it! I really don’t think Muhammad or Jesus would be very happy with what their followers are doing in their names!
“Neither Christianity nor Islam are the problem….”
Thanks for your comments E,
Islam is a Rational Faith as video will tell you this fact; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2Clk5lNUdQ (Baba Ali ‘Why Islam?’)
muslims allover world know oonly one thing. kill jews, destroy chirchs, temples etc…. and built mosques. creat hateret for other religion and convert forcefully people to islam. Islam do not teach this. but interpretation is in hand of mullas and molvis. they do misinterpretation. all rights are for men only , women are just treated as animals and slaves in Islam. why
I too wonder what God/Allah thinks about the hatefulness of this human race. We say God/Allah is Love, yet we murder innocent people. We call ourselves followers of God/ Allah, how can a one submit to God/ Allah with pure hate in their heart?
The old testament is a story of rebellion, with countless pages describing hatred and sin. Human beings are fair weather followers/submitters with fickle hearts and minds. Although I am not that familiar with the teachings of the Qur’an, I believe God loves us. (I’m guessing that the Qur’an says the same about Allah also loving his followers/submitters.) God asked us to cleanse ourselves of our sin, (I’m guessing Allah asks the same of his followers/submitters) God provided a way to cleanse ourselves through repentance, and ultimately a final sacrifice. (Jesus on the cross) We are imperfect beings, full of judgmental thoughts and sinful actions.
In the name of our God or Country we hate those who threaten our beliefs. Why do we do such things? The United States of America was founded on the belief that all are created equal and all can practice their beliefs openly without the threat of punishment. So then why do we desire to stand in judgement? Freedom of speech does not equal ugly hateful slurs.
Peace, walking in peace, striving for peace requires an open heart, a desire to understand. I may not believe the same things that my Muslim brothers and sisters believe, but I must remind myself that I am not God/Allah. I am not called to be Judge, Jury and executioner. If we really want peace we must becomes partners in peace. Unfortunately, too many human beings are so full of anger that their hatred prevents them from seeking peace.
If as individuals we could look into our own hearts, see the ugliness inside us before we project it onto others, if we could strive to fix what’s broken in our own lives rather than point the finger at someone else, perhaps we might begin to understand how to bring lasting change, meanfuling change. (I guess it’s just easier to assume we are right, and spend the rest of our lives arguing to prove that point)
Nicely put…
……..Amen……..
Regardless of what religion we were born into and identify with by default, most of us want to live our lives in peace, love and harmony; without fear. Most of us just want food, clothing, shelter, health care and schools for our children. Most of us would like to live in a world where the whole place is a comfort zone; a place where we are free to experience the miracle of life and all it has to offer. Organized religions are not organized by God. Otherwise there would only be one instead of thirt-five thousand. Organized religions are formed around one man’s perception of God and his ability to convince others into a mass perception of his beliefs. The truth is that every single one of us has a very personal perception of God, which organized religions have a tendency to suppress. There is an EVIL loose in this world. We have to stop looking for our differences and see the similarities in our lives. There is a whole package of answers, in our heart, for the questions in our heads. God bless you…
Well said……
Agree
In the first paragraph you write: “Westerners are being to explore “. You meant to write “Westerners are beginning to explore ” “beginning” instead of “being”
hello 🙂
i am a Muslim girl
& those “torresm people ” are killing many of us in many arabic_islamic countries = we hate them too :(((
sorry :Terrorists
“not torresm”
Not all Germans were Nazis but simply did not care about what was going on but they sufferd just as much and desirably so.
Witch is worse ? To be blind and move forward or to see and stand still? Help or not help ! If you are not the problem then you must be the resolution . To just watch and do nothing is much worse in my opinion !