Difference Between Sunni and Wahabi
Sunni vs Wahabi
The major difference between Sunni and Wahabi is the beliefs and rituals. Sunnis are in majority and almost 90% percent of Muslims around the world belong to Sunni sect whereas the members of Wahabi movement are located in Saudi Arab. There are a few main and major as well as many secondary differences between the Sunni and Wahabi Muslims which caused these sects to be cut off from each other and emerge independently.
The major difference between them is that Wahabis believe that Prophet Muhammad should be praised only as a human being whereas Sunnis show extra special care and respect towards the Prophet of Islam.
Sunni Muslims celebrate the birthday of the Holy Prophet and arrange Meelaad. Meelaad is a form of gathering in which the Sunni Muslims get together and praise the Holy Prophet. The birthdays of Sufi saints are also celebrated with much dedication and enthusiasm. The day of their deaths are commemorated in the form of Urs. Wahabi Muslims do not believe in celebrating and practicing all these events which are very strongly rooted in Islam. Wahabis call these practices of events as unlawful and wrongful innovations. Wahabis also believe that this is as close as to shirk or polytheism and Sunnis follow the ways of infidel Hindus.
Sunni Muslims believe that Prophet Muhammad is Nur and still present in this world. Whereas Wahabis do not believe in using pious individuals as intermediaries when asking Allah as they consider it shirk or polytheism. Sunnis believe in the saints and mysticism whereas Wahabis do not believe in mysticism, intercession and prostration as well. Sunni Muslims visit the tombs of the saints and perform tawassul for the blessings of Allah whereas it is the greatest sin for a Wahabi.
Sunni Muslims believe in four imams of fiqah or Islamic laws such as Hanfi, Hanbli, Malakii and Shaafeyii whereas Wahabi does not follow an Iman in Fiqh. Wahabi Muslims are a group of fundamentalists and have an orthodox version Islam. Wahabis in Saudi Arab do not allow their females to work side by side with their men and they also are not allowed to drive a car. The women are treated as third rate citizens and they are bound to wear a long abayaa or garment to cover them from head to toe. Sunni Muslims are moderate and believe in the equality of women as suggested by Islam.
There are many differences present in their rituals of praying, marriage ceremonies, dresses etc. Wahabi Muslims have separate mosques and schools. Wahabi Muslims are followers of Mohammed ibn Abdul Wahab in the 18th century in Arabia, and his movement came up against a lot of opposition from the Indians Sunni Muslims. Members of the Wahab movement in Saudi Arabia believe their role as a restorer or reformer to free Islam from negative deviances, heresies, innovations, superstitions and idolatries. Wahabis prefer to eliminate music and listening to songs. They are against watching television and drawings of living things which contain a soul.
Summary
1. Wahabi Muslims are followers of Muhammad ibne Abdul wahab present in the 18th century in Saudi Arabia whereas Sunni Muslims are followers of Prophet Muhammad and his companions.
2. Sunni Muslims believe in intercession and mysticism whereas Wahabis call them as deviants and wrongful innovations in Islam.
3. Sunni Muslims strictly follow one of the four schools of thoughts or madhabs of fiqah or Islamic jurisprudence whereas Wahabis follow their sheikh.
4. Wahabis do not observe annual Sufi festivals, events or the birthday of Prophet Muhammad.
5. Sunni Muslims wear charms and believe in healing powers unlike Wahabi beliefs like visiting tombs or shrines of saints.
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This is nonsense. I’m from Saudi Arabia and we are called sunni’s. Sunni’ sect is like a heading and Wahhabism is subtitle. We (Wahhabie’s )also call ourselves selves sunni’s. Wahaabism is a movment that enlightened people in the mentioned century after they were worshipping tombs and trees. how come that a man worships a tree or a tomb ? what can a dead person do for you ? does he even hear you ? This is what Wahhabism did, It enlightened the people here and showed them to only worship God who is our creator and he is the only one deserves to be woorshipped.If there was any differencem it should have been focused on difference between Sunnies and Shiites because there are clear differences between them. Finally, I hope that any writer wants to write about something here to make sure he gets the accurate information from the place where the topic being discussed taken place.
Khalid
Best Wishes.
assalam o alaikm muslms!
Ayesha.
me also sunni ,here i say there is nothing wrong to visit mizaars n shrines of Godz friendz (Walliullahz) ,celebrating their birthdays by gettting togather is not any sin like shirk , and indeed our islam allow us for duaa from Allah with the waseelah of His friends, and it also lighten our heart & soul with the light of love with our Allah, but here i want to clear that our deen never allow us to altar for the name of other instead of God and one more thing that it bow before the shrines of saints , yes this is shirk which is not allowed us as a Muslim.thats all.
thnx
regards
Assalam o alaikm.
wahabi isn’t sunni..they are agent of zionist..
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SUNNI AND SHIA ARE BROTHERS!!!
MANY MALAYSIAN MUSLIM SUPPORT IRAN!!!
if u think that then u need some more study
There is no SUNNI AND SHIA to devide islam. All are Muslims and all Muslims are brothers.
How can you say that there is no difference between Shia and Sunni. I greatly disbelieve that. A muslim is someone who follows and believes what is written in the Quran. And if you believe otherwise then you are not a muslim. As far as I’m concerned Shia are as much Muslim as any other relion that changes the words that God sent to us. If you change the words of the Quran and Then Follow it you may as well be a mormon.
wahabis has gone astray,according to hadith they are known as satan followers.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/gulf/wahhabi.htm
aslam o alekum
we are muslims and muslims are whom that accept quran o hadith and act on it.
in islam it is prohabited to go to mazars.
asalam alailum tanverr.
but let me corrrect you it is not prohibited in islam to go to mazzars but its instructed in quran & hadith to go the grave yards for fateha of the dead ones
assalam alaykum
u r in wrong information from ur elders
think logically , if walialla can pray from the madar
than please find out the atleast one hadith that prophet(saw)
told to go to madars &pray allah through walialla &morover sahaba did not do this,
brithday is prohibited in islam please refer hadith
all these sites are really making sets among muslims
please watch the any one web on the sec of sunni hanafi baralvi.
more i ex-plane you that if you got in any one of serious bad disease than why you can go to a doctor , hakeem, herbal specialist etc. it is coated in hadees sahsita “allah gives the health or shifa”. so our faith is allah gives the health but allah gives us a source in the form of doctor. if we do practice on the doctor given precaution then allah rewarded us with good health. exactly walliullah is the teacher of Islam and allah says in quran “if any one zikr on my self extarodanry i also zikr on him\her self”. when allah zikr him \her self in the form of tomb then why we criticizer on tomb of walliulla or saints
i hope you can understand my reference. my English is not good .
aslam-u-alikum ,
majid ali saifi
i think sunnis are absolutely right , i say there is nothing wrong to visit mizaars n shrines of Godz friendz (Walliullahz) ,celebrating their birthdays by gettting togather is not any sin like shirk , and indeed our islam allow us for duaa from Allah with the waseelah of His friends.
good answer ayesha…
even i would like to support khalid bcoz we live in india and here i have so many wahabi friend they dont wear abbaya
it is because of in india some muslims misguided and watching movies and making mushrik frnds
I want to say just one thing and that is that the wahabi,deobndi,and all parts of these classes
are not from one father
all the wahabi and other persons from these classes have many fathers
His mothers are (twaif)
i love sunni
and i am also sunni
and i like all rules and ways of sunni
i hate wahabi,deobndi
jeo sunni mro sunni
â€(قدرپانی دا Ù…Ú†Ú¾Ù„ÛŒ جانے یا جانے مرغابی
قدرنبی دا سنی جانے یا جانے صØابی)
والسلام
sunni wo hota hai jo HAZRAT MOHAMMAD(S.A.W)Kay tour oar tariqay pay challay.khali suni khanay say insan suni nahi hoata .
I want to say just one thing and that is that the wahabi,deobndi,and all parts of these classes
are not from one father
all the wahabi and other persons from these classes have many fathers
there mothers are (twaif)
i love sunni
and i am also sunni
and i like all rules and ways of sunni
i hate wahabi,deobndi
jeo sunni mro sunni
â€(قدرپانی دا Ù…Ú†Ú¾Ù„ÛŒ جانے یا جانے مرغابی
قدرنبی دا سنی جانے یا جانے صØابی)
والسلام
Wahabis do not accept Shaheed as living and in this way they are kaafir. Quran says shaheed as living. Who believe in Quran, can never say Shaheed as dead.
Wahabis are kafir, kafir and kafir they do not follow true islam i m saying this 100% accurate.
WE ARE ALL MUSLIMS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DO NOT DISRESPECT ISLAM BY CALLING MUSLIM BROTHERS AND SISTERS KAFIRS !!!!!!!
READ THE QURAN AND YOU WILL SEE CREATING SECTS IS WRONG!!!!!
brother u are write wahabies dnt believe in the prophet thats da point who ever says wahabies are sunni get ur story strait or get ur facts right
brothers, lets not create differences amongst ourselves (sura anfal). most wahabbi and sunni are neutral and their differences are on non-issues. it is the majority of scholars of both groups who attack each other. most sunni and wahabbi get along without calling each other kaafir or mushrik.
if some body worships other than ALLAH then he is mushrik (neither wahabbi nor sunni do this).
if somebody rejects the prophet (SAW) prophethood or the qur’an then he is kaafir (neither wahabbi norsunni do this either).
i know wahabbi who love the prophet (milad is not a condition of love) and i also know sunni who are strict on tawheed (who say that all qualities are only for ALLAH almighty only and he has bestowed them to his chosen people)
wake up: falestine, iraq, afghanistan, somalia, bosnia (soon iran, pakistan, nigeria or sudan), empty masaajid, lack of knowledge (both in deen and duniya), corrupt ulamaa & leaders and NO ACTING ON QURAN & SUNNAH are the REAL tests facing muslims.
may allah guide us all. ameen
I don’t understand one thing, Is it some sort of computation to be the best of the best, promoting your religion fighting against another religion, if we look at it we ‘ve been parted like more than 1000PCS,
there’s Muslims,Sunni, shia, wahabis, Christians, jews, hindus, siekh and 100 more. tell me one thing who you want to fight first, we should jst think for 1 minute if this is the right way to bring peace amongst each other i think the more we discuss the worst it get.
How is the Milad -tul-Nabi not a condition of love,how is celebrating the prohet MUHAMMAD SW BIRTHDAY A SIN are you insane!!!!! Ther is a big diffrence between the lovers of Rasoonulah sw and those who do not love him,the ones who love him and send salams and salawat upon him there hearts are filled with noor and compassion and justce all these things that the whabbis HATE.Hve any body heard of the hadith of laulak where ALLAH SYS HAD I NOT CREATED MUHAMMAD SW I WHOULD NOT CREATED ANYTHING ALLAH CREATED EVREYTHING FOR HIM AND MADE HIS SUNNAH OBLIGATORY IF YOU DO NOT FOLLOW HIS WAY THEN YOU ARE NOT FOLLOWING ALLAHS WAY.EVREYTHING ALLAH ALLOWED TO DO WAS PRACTICALLY ROR US HOW DO WE KNOW HOW TO MAKE WUDU OR SALAT OR ISTINGA OR ANY THING IS THIS IN QURAN NO………….ITS IN THE SUNNAH OF THE HOLY NABI SW USE UR BRAIN USE UR BRAIN AND USE YOUR HEART AND YOU WILL COME TO KNOW THE TRUTH OF THESE MATTERS
very nice abdullah. Thank, I wish all m
uslims do hv
such thoughts. Khuda hme sahi rah dikhaye aameen
MasyaAllah, who are we to brand people kafr? Wahabi is a movement where they believe in non – nonsence in Islam. I have studied them and trust me when I say you are ignorant if you’re branding this people negatively. In Malaysia for example, Many people did not realize that there are many alteration in the Mazhab Syafie and we did not follow the Mazhab completely, does this makes us A Wahabi Nation? I’m sure, every Mazhab does some alteration to fit the need of its society because at the end of the day, All this Ulama’ are also servants of God.
Ibn `Umar (May Allah be pleased with them) said: The Messenger of Allah (PBUH) said, “When a person calls his brother (in Islam) a disbeliever, one of them will certainly deserve the title. If the addressee is so as he has asserted, the disbelief of the man is confirmed, but if it is untrue, then it will revert to him.”
[Al-Bukhari and Muslim].
Commentary: We learn from this Hadith that to call a Muslim a Kafir is strictly prohibited because if the one who has been called as such does not have the traits which makes him a Kafir, then the one who says it will be held Kafir.
Abu Dharr (May Allah be pleased with him) said: I heard the Messenger of Allah (PBUH) saying, “If somebody accuses another of disbelief or calls him the enemy of Allah, such an accusation will revert to him (the accuser) if the accused is innocent.”
[Al-Bukhari and Muslim].
Commentary: This Hadith also tells us that to call without reason any Muslim a Kafir or enemy of Allah is strictly prohibited.
~ Taken from Riyad As Saliheen
Great my brother great
habibullah
i have same thinking
wahabis had many fathers
listen agar tum muslim nai ho sakte q k muslim kanhi kisi dosre muslim bhai ko haqeer nai samjhte first apne aap ko pehle muslim kro phir ksi ko kafir bolo ok.
dont call a any muslim kafir i know some are misguided but they will know the way
don,t say any one as kafir please
don,t say any muslim as kafir please
if wahabis r qafir than y allah make them stay inland of mohammed (saw)
think logically
even yazid was given the power tu cut hussain R.A head soes that mean he was right..
think again
DEAR BROTHER KALAM
DON’T U KNOW THAT OUR FIRST KIBLA i.e. MASJIDUL AQSA IS UNDER JEWS.
SO U CALL THAT JEWS AS A RIGHTEOUS ONE
THINK LOGICALLY
EVEN THE JEWS ARE MORE GENIUS AND MORE PIOUS THAN THE MUSLIMS.
FIGHT EINSTEIN WITH OUR THINKING AND FAITH, NOT WITH OUR SWORD.
Come on Muslims, don’t blame each other as infidels.
One is not to call another muslim a kafir. Shows what great muslims Habib Ullah and Ahmad are. You guys are in need of a serious education because as of now you seem pretty illiterate.
Habibullah
you dont have right to call anyone kafir so shut up plz.
assalam alaikum, this is rizwan shaikh…and i am 100% TRUE SUNNI, i’l not say that wahabis are kaafir, however i can say that they are truly wrong coz they are not following the proper rules of PROPHET MOHAMMED (ya rasul allah), they believe in abdul wahab which is wrong…there is no harm in visiting dargahs, even we can take their(waliallah) wasilas…but wahabis called it as a shirk, hmmmmmm…tell me the meaning of shirk???i’l advice to all my muslim brothers those who are in the wrong path, tht please SAMBHAL JAO MUSALMANO QAYAMAT AANE WALI HAI…follow the rules of prophet mohammed, follow quraan, hadis…inshaallah 1day you’l definately turn into aelay sunnat…..I AM PROUD TO BE A SUNNI…
ASSLAM ALAIKUM
REGARDS,
Rizwan frm mumbai
their is no sunni or shia in islam this is man made done be misguided
I AM AGREE WITH HABIBULLAH AND AHMAD BHAI…THAT THE MUSLIMS WHO DONT EVEN KNOW THEIR RELIGION, AND WHO DONT FOLLOW PROPHET MOHAMMED(S.A.W.S) SHOULD BE CALLED AS KAAFIR….AND THESE PEOPLE SERIOSLY NEED PROPER EDUCATION ABOUT ISLAM…I APOLOGISE IF IT HURTS ANYONE, BUT TRUTH IS ALWAYS TRUTH…
bislmillah hir rehmane rahim.
i am really sad about the sect in islam. its the destructions of muslims. according to haidth there will be 72 sect and who is on Quran n sunnah will b correct. Now who is following Quran n sunnah? i think both sunni and wahabi but not fully. firstly wahabi, who say we follow quran n sunah but not fiqah. i firstly ask them who was ibne abdul wahab following? he was following fiqah of imam ibne hanbal. now wahabi say we dont believe in any imam which mean they dont believe in any sahih hadith book. then from where they read the sunnah of our prophet s.w.a? they also say we read Quran translation but i think Quran was revelad in arabic. who translated Quran in difference language? its again the scholars of islam but wahabi say we dont follow scholar or any imam then y they r reading the translation of that scholars? surah al imran verse 7 “He is the One Who has revealed to you the Book. Some of its verses are decisive – they are the foundation of the Book – while others are allegorical. Those whose
hearts are infected with disbelief follow the allegorical part to mislead others and to
give it their own interpretation, seeking for its hidden meanings, but no one knows its
hidden meanings except Allah. Those who are well grounded in knowledge say: “We
believe in it; it is all from our Lord.” None will take heed except the people of
understanding.”
ALLAH says that there r decisive verse in Quran which means it really difficult to understan Quran without the help of great scholars.
surah an nisa verse 59 “O
believers! Obey Allah, obey the Messenger and those charged with authority among
you. Should you have a dispute in anything, refer it to Allah and His Messenger, if
you truly believe in Allah and the Last Day. This course of action will be better and
more suitable.”
i want wahabi to expalin this verse to me. this verse is enough for them that they say we only follow Quran n sunnah n no other source.
ASSALAAM ALAYKUM ahmad bhai jaan .mujhe aap se mazeed malumat ki zaroorat hai AHL e baith k mutalliq mai badi kashmokash me rahta hu plz meri madad kar dijiye maherbaani hogi.
ALLAH hafiz
now sunni. people confuse in sunni. there is division in sunni. A sect calld as bralvi is totally different from the majority of sunni. They call themselves as ahlesunat or dawate islami or bralvi.They only follow imam abu hanifa and call other followers of imam wrong. i am also sunni but not from that sect known as bralvi. These ppl go to shrines of saints and do dances over there. Its not only but wine drinking and heroin is popular there. They even do sajda to graves also. this totaly is wrong. if someone saying that i m wrong then plz visit pakistan. and go to the shrines of saints when they have birthday u will see everything. Alhamdullillah i am from ahle baith and my great great great grand father was also a saint n he have also have grave. We went to his grave n danced over there bt when we have travel n near to his grave then we visit his grave and pray for him not for ourselves.
My point is not to make fight between any body bt i want unity among my muslim brothers. who is right and who is wrong who r we to decide just follow ur sect if u think u r right and see in the day of judgement who is right n who wrong. brothers and sisters non muslim will never want the unity of muslims. if muslims r divided then they can easily destroy us. plz stop pointing to any one bt make ur self perfect. i ask everyone do u love islam, and the Quaran? if yes then wat have u done for Quran which is going to b burnt in florida church on 11sept 2010. if u ppl r really right then unite and save Quran
“lakum deenukum waliadeen”……………………..u follow ur way and we follow ours………….Allah (S.W.T) is there to judge…………….i request all of u to get united………………dont make a contraversy over it…………….may Allah(S.W.T) shower his blessings onto us…..
also for ur clarification……..barelvi sect follows all the four imams………
We went to his grave n danced over there bt when we have travel n near to his grave then we visit his grave and pray for him not for ourselves.
*m so sorry there is a mistake we dont go to his graves and niether dance over there
gul ahmed –
you are wrong we bralvi’s do not believe the other 3 imams are wrong. We also dont drink take drugs and dance. And yes i have visited Pakistan and been to shrines and i have not seen anything you claim.
How can you say all of us drink, there are many muslims who do wrong by drinking, but this is in every sect not only bralvi’s, and this is for Allah (S.W.T) to judge.
First thing, this article is a attempt to create a sect or make muslims fight amongst themselves, as I can see up there.
There is NO sect that calls themselves WAHABIS BUT there is a sect that calls themselves SUNNIS. Any Muslims who follows fundamentals of Islam and STOPS unnecessary inclusions and additions in Islam is called WAHABI. People like these are related to some scholar Abdul Wahab who when saw muslims going astray, he took the initiative to STOP them from wrong.
Nevertheless, my attempt here is not to say you all are wrong or prove that I AM right or anything, the point is simple, anyone who accepts Islam is a muslim and who is what is described in Chapter Muminoon is the BEST amongst muslims called ‘Momin’. Our entire endeavour should be to stay united as this is was the FIRST thing that our Prophet Mohammad (PBUH) did when he reached Madina to create an empire of Islam with great muslims.
definately an articel written by a jew or christian, may he will burn in hell. amen.
FEAR ALLAH u puting the evil eye on people u need to watch ur tonge because on the last day ur tounge will speak against u and i now u dont want that
I WANT TO ASK ONE QUESTION TO ALL OF MY MUSLIMS BROTHERS AND SISTERS?
WHAT WAS THE CASTE OF PROPHET MUHAMMAD(PBUH)? SUNNI , WAHABI, SHIA???
ALL THESE ARE NONSENSE. WE ARE MUSLIMS BELIEVING IN ONE GOD AND HIS PROPHET, FOLLOWING QURAN, HADITH. THEN WHY TO FIGHT AMONG EACH OTHER ON THESE NONSENSE ISSUES?????
A PERSON DOING SECTS IN ISLAM CANNOT BE A MUSLIM. QURAN CLEARLY SAYS.
you ar right . We muslims ar facing many problem this is not the time to fight with brothers . now is the time to sit to discus to forgive to help to love brothers. I M not shia,sunnh or wahabi,IM A MUSLIM i belive thare is no god but ALLAH & prophet Muhammad(pbun)is his macengar
wahabi isn’t sunni..they are agent of zionist
see, first of all any body can tell me that which cast prophet MUHAMMAD(PBUH) BEARS, whether HE was shia, sunni, wahabi, barelvi, hambali, maliki, safi or others one. who was he?
“According to Tirmidhi Hadith No. 171, the prophet (pbuh) is reported to have said, “My Ummah will be fragmented into seventy-three sects, and all of them will be in Hell fire except one sect.” The companions asked Allah’s messenger which group that would be. Where upon he replied, “It is the one to which I and my companions belong.”
he did’nt say anything about sunni,wahabi, sia, hanafi, shafi or maliki or hambali.” can you tell me if he never said any thing about the cast you bear, then from where these things came?
Muslims Should be United
It is a fact that Muslims today, are divided amongst themselves. The tragedy is that such divisions are not endorsed by Islam at all. Islam believes in fostering unity amongst its followers.
The Glorious Qur’an says:
“And hold fast,All together, by the rope(QURAN) Which Allah (stretches out for you), and be not divided among yourselves;” [Al-Qur’an 3:103]
The Glorious Qur’an says:
“As for those who divideTheir religion and break upInto sects, thou hastNo part in them in the least:Their affair is with Allah:He will in the end Tell them the truthOf all that they did.” [Al-Qur’an 6:159]
dekho Quran keya kah raha k ALLAH KI RASSI(ROPE) KO PAKDO EK SATH AUR APAS MEI DEVIDE MAT HO. ALLAH KI RASSI KEYA HAI QURAN HAI ONLY QURAN, WHICH HAS BEEN REVEALED THROUGH PROPHET MUHAMMAD.
aur hamarey prophet keya kah rahen hain key 73 sects hongey jismei sey ek sahi hoga jannat mei jayega. aur unho ne kaha k vo ek firqa vo hoga jo mujhe aur mere sathi(sahaba’s) ko follow karega. aur sahaba vo kahlatey hain jo prophet Muhammad(pbuh) k sath they aur apni ankhon aur kaano key sath vo sahaba kahlatey hain. par jo prophet Muhammad k badd aaye chahe kitney badey religious keun na ho vo sahaba nahi ho saktey. tou dekhne ki baat ye hai k islam mei koi sect nahi hai sirf shia ko cghor kar keun k vo log shirk aur biddah k har level ko paar kar chukey hain ye sab jaantey hain aur vo khud bhi jaantey hain par still you can not say them kafir.
i m not wahabi but i think wahabis are not wrong, they just follow the authentic things and do not follow any thing like grave worship or visiting tombs, seek blessing from dead person. if you realy understand Quran ,u also vill never do such thing which is prohibited by ALLAH and QURAN.
and if you study the life of out beloved PROPHET MUHAMMAD(PBUH) and his sahaba’s, u will not find any thing like this that ever sahaba visited graves or prayed there or they celebrated birthday or kabhi vo gaye ho kabar pey mannaton k liye ya jo kabar mei hain unsey doa karvane k liye. PROPHET MUHAMMAD sey pahley bhi itney sarey NABI guzrey tou keya kabhi Prophet Muhammad ne unlogon ka birthday celebrate kiya. ye to isaayi log hain jo prophet isa ibn mariyam ka birthday celebrate kartey hain aur ham musalman isayi nahi hain.
agar ham hinduon ki tarah ya aur dusrey mazhabon ki tarah in sab baaton par yekin karenge tou ham mei aur unmei keya farak hoga?
jab ALLAH QURAN mei kah raha hai k jo maangna hai ham sey maango mai dunga tou hamara kaam ye hai k ham us layak baney aur Allah sey mangey, hamei koi wakil thik karne ki zarurat nahi Allah sey kuch maangney k liye.
aur QURAN mei hai k musalman musalman bhai ki tarah hain tou hamei apne bhai ko kafir nahi karna chahiye bal key hameis ilm hasil karni chahiye k ALLAH keya kah raha, QURAN keya kah raha, PROPHET MUHAMMAD(PBUH) keya kah rahey. hamei khud sey study karna chahiye. ye jo mohalley mei faturi molvi moulana paye jatey hain aur mazaron par ye log vo hain jinho ne apne fayede k liye islam ko shirk ki taraf le ja rahey aur apney khaney piney k liye islam ki fake dukan khol kar baithey huye hain. ham sab QURAN pads saktey hain aur samajh saktey hain.
hamei ek dusrey ko kabhi bhi kafir nahi kahna chahiye, keya tumhe nahi pata k Allah sab jaanta hai jo tum boltey ho aur jo sochtey ho, keya tumhe darr nahi k ek din dobara uthaye jaoge apne amaal k saath aur tumhara Allah ki ebadat karna hain na key kisi ko kafir kahna vo tou ALLAH decide karega ham log nahi.
may Allah the creator of heaven and earth have mercy on all of you muslim brother and may he give u true light of ISLAM. AMEEN…. THANKS
Asalaam ul liakum,brothers and sisters in islam,this one is particularly for Adnan Hassan,my dear brother when u respond to anybody in regards of any matter not only religion u dont use language like”shut up please”,i mean can u imagine how many people read ure comment,not only muslims but non muslims too ,what example have u set in there eyes,think my dear brother,be more diplomatic,you dont have to pay or have a degree for it,now about sunnies and wahabies,yes there are differences and we can not ignore the differences,we love our prophet SAW.,and when celibrating b/day of our prophet,we dont dance and do unislamic things,we recite quran,and say durudsherif,nothing wrong with,right,so what sunnies do is a very good thing ,and shias are our brothers i wish there was no war between the two in Iraq and Pakistan,we should support each other thank you to all may allah bless us all
wow! this is really difficult to understand for a non-muslim whose trying to. i feel even more confused about alleged differences after i read the comments. a quick summary of the ^^ above ^^ is leading me to think the author of the article portrays the sunni sect as something comparable to catholicism and a wahabi like protestant. this seems to have ignited a hot and healthy conversation amongst believers.
One commentor said, “There is NO sect that calls themselves WAHABIS BUT there is a sect that calls themselves SUNNIS … Muslims who follows fundamentals of Islam and STOPS unnecessary inclusions and additions in Islam is called WAHABI.” If this quote is true, and at least some of the actual article is also true, then it’s almost as if a wahabi is something akin to a baptist — which, to … let’s say a muslim for instance, might look more or less like a christian cult of the protestant denomination (sect, if you will).
`gul ahmed’ said some interesting stuff about translations of the koran/qu’ran (Sp?) and asked an intriguing question about what wahabi folks are actually reading. this reminds me of the “inerrancy” arguement in christianity.
i can’t possibly imagine islam’s sunni doctrine could be that simple.. but i don’t know, so keep the conversation going and try to turn it into an “ISLAM 101 FOR DUMMIES”. it’s an interesting article and a good conversation to read.
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thank-you.
Forget it, in the Quran there is no sects no differences. Read Quran, Read Sunnath and thats all. Litlle Little things you are making big deal into. This is what is going to break us all apart. Stop it now, All of you. There are no sects in Islam. Follow what allah has said and his Messenger SAW. Do argue amongst each other.
it is for curious reader.
Dear bro i think u r being happy to see the differences in islam and try to compare islam with the christianity. i dont know who r u,muslim or non muslim? but i think you have a big misconception regarding Islam.
and i strongly believe if u will come to know about the true Islam u will accept Islam. INSHAALLAH.
the ISLAM is about “Acquiring peace by submitting one’s will to Allah”
if you want to know about any thing, you should know about the basic concept or principal concept or reality of the origination and then u will realize the fact.
so it is same for ISLAM. if you want to know about Islam and seeking truth then don’t see the follower of Islam but see the person to whom whole muslim world follows and then u will get to know that what ISLAM is realy. and that is prophet MUHAMMAD the last messenger of Almighty GOD. if you study about the life of prophet MUHAMMAD, u will find that every thing he did in his life was in favour of all mankind. HE teaches every thing about living life. HE was the person with lovely heart, sinless mind and kind behaviour, HE gave a book revealed by the ALMIGHTY GOD to HIM, which includes every thing that can make u sinless. so if u r here only for making fun then its ok u can, but if u r luking for an internal peace, best way of living life, seeking best life here and hereafter, seeking truth about the life then u have to turn urself towards the true ISLAM revealed by beloved prophet MUHAMMAD and orderd by ALMIGHTY..
BROTHER it is no doubt that now there are many sects in ISLAM, but it is not endorsed by islam. it is the follower of ISLAM who r divided amongst themself. Both ALLAH and MUHAMMAD clearly forbiding to divide. see what Allah is saying in The Glorious Qur’an:
“And hold fast,All together, by the rope(QURAN) Which Allah (stretches out for you), and be not divided among yourselves;†[Al-Qur’an 3:103]
it is also mentioned in QURAN:“As for those who divideTheir religion and break upInto sects, thou hastNo part in them in the least:Their affair is with Allah:He will in the end Tell them the truthOf all that they did.†[Al-Qur’an 6:159]
ISLAM also prohibited for alcoholic drinks, but if any follower of islam drinks it then is it the fault of ISLAM? there are number of muslims they do wrong deeds prohibited by ISLAM strongly so is it the fault of ISLAM?
BUT one thing u have to note that despite having various differences in practicing ISLAM amongst muslims, the basic concept of believing ISLAM is same for whole muslim world even in shia muslims. and concept is, worshiping one ALLAH, and QURAN is final message of Allah towards human being and prophet MUHAMMAD was the last messenger sent by ALMIGHTY GOD. this is the base of ISLAM and strongly believed by whole muslim community.
and one importan thing is the truth of ISLAM and PROPHET MUHAMMAD has been mentioned in every scriitpture of different religions but it is different thing they r denying or misqoting or concealing the truth, and it is nothing to do with the truth.
LAST but not least, i m going to make you sure that if you will start questionig to yourself about your existence, your purpose, your destination and your reason to live, i m sure during the journey of searching answers regarding all these questions, you would find that ISLAM is only truth here and hereafter.
and if u r here for just having some entertainment or fun than u can have a fun.
any thing stated above hurts you, please give me paradon. thanks and regards
your brother
If All are Brother than Who was Firon he is ur Brother and who is Namrood . He Is Ur Brother . Wahabis are totally Wrong and they say that “Humare liye Allah hi Kaafe hai” . what is the meaning of this sentence i.e They Dont want anything from other except Allah .
Agar Allah hi Se Tumhe Mangna hai to kyu jaate ho Dr ke pass Jab tum Bimaar ho jate ho , Allah se kyu nhi mangte .
Masjid ka chanda mangne kyu Dar Dar Bhatakte ho . Allah se manga karo ,
Bhaiyo Allah ne kuch Sources Bana rakha hai Us Tak Pahuchne ke
PARA 6 Surah Almayeda ki 35vi Aayat “Aye Imaan Walo Allah se Daro Aur Us Tak Pahuchne ke liye Zariya Talash Karo:
Allah Tak Pahuchna hai to Huzur(saw) tak Pahuchna hoga ,
Huzur(saw) tak pahuchna hai To Hzrt Ali(Rz) tak Pahuchna Hoga
Hzr Ali(Rz) tak Pahuchna hai to Khwaja Garib Nawaz(Rz) tak pahuchna hoga
Khwaja tak Pahuchna hai to Waliyo ke Wali Gaus e Aazam tak in tak tum pahuch gaYE To tumhe kahi jane ki zrurat nhi samjh loki tumko Khuda tak pahuchne ka rasta mil gaya
Hi,
I am a Sunni. I am ok with Wahabis. The only thing I don’t like about wahabis is their belief that if a sunni does not believe in Abdul Wahab, he is not a Sunni. 99% of sunnis do not believe in Abdul Wahab and majority of Sunni do not know who Abdul Wahab was.
Another issue with Wahabis is they judge faith of other Muslims. How come they call me non-sunni, if I don’t believe in Abdul Wahab. Let Allah judge my and your faith.
Compulsion is tenant of Wahabism but not a tenant of Sunnis. unlike wahabis – 99% of Sunnis believe that religion has no place for compulsion.
Wahabis have right to call themselves Sunni or whatever they want. But they have no right to call other sunnis as Khafirs.
assalamualaikum everyone.dear brother and sister in islam our main identity is we are muslim not a wahabi,hanafi,or hanbali.because our beloved prophet was a muslim and not a wahabi or hanafi.we should follow holy QURAN and HADITH,and follow our scholers if they do not contradict with those two.we should not associate MOHAMMED(SW) with ALLAH because we love him and also it is wrong to say he is a LAYMAN like us.Because he was a prophet of allah and not like any other prophet he was who because of whom the other prophets came in this world.I think visiting graves and to say prayers for the dead is not a sin because RASULULLAH(sw) often visited graves.But to visit grave to aske something to dead is clear shirk.
think again this artical does not have its facts striaght first of all celebrating the prophets SAW birthday is a huge bidah or innovation and if u call ur self sunni and u celebrate the prophets birthday the u ned to do some research because the prophet saw didnt even celebrate his own birthday so how can u be on the sunna.Second and who said phophet nur is in the present world. wow i hope the was not writen by a muslim cause im only 13 and i know more then this artical does
This article has been written by some kaafir..to create divide between us brothers in faith.We all brothers must remain united..whatever different sects we belong to..it is afterall not we who will decide which sect is right or wrong..but almighty ALLAH ..
Salaams to brothers and sisters in islam!!,i personal have a doubt on this site,trying to put fitinaa between the sects in islam,its the same people who are wedging the war between shias and sunnis,which was never this bad but there is people who want us to fighting between ourselves,wake up muslims,wake up,stop doing what they want to see happen,get it!!,stop worring about sunnis and wahabis,even if there was differences,do we have to fight over them,remember,we all believe in one god,Allah,so let him decide,and lets worry about palestinians,afgans,chechnians,our brothers and sisters suffering so much under the hands of the same people who never learned from there experiences,so stop bickering,do some good in this world to enjoy the here after,love each other for what we are ,stop trying to be god and judge
Wow, how obviously ill read is this person. I am no fan of Wahhabi but they are Sunni Muslims. A little research would have fix this nonsense. But where i am most concern is the false authority and tone. If you are ignorant you would actually believe this stuff. I am a so-called Sunni and I don’t celebrate the Birth day of Prophet (SAW).
Yes Hassan it is very clear some White Non-Muslim wrote it. The arrogance of these people is beyond me. I mean what arrogance to be so ignorant and write about a complex religion which has 1.5 billion followers. Doesnt the author know Muslims can read?
wahabbis arent musim
If they are not muslims what are they. My dear brother there is something i want you to know here. The people you call wahhabis call them Alhusunnah and Sunni called themselves tijanniya .. So if you think yours is right dont criticise other peoples own. LA KUM DEENUKUM WALYA DEEN..
All saudis and pakitani wahabis are terrorist they are not sunni
Listen…..
Sunni and Wahabi are two bitter realities that we should accept. But the question is that who Is Wahabi and who is Sunni?
To my knowledge Wahabies are famous by different names like Duebundi, Eal e Hadisth, Rai wind Group and those who show themselves that they are just acting upon the Ture Islam and there is no need to Follow and Immal or Sect like Due Bundi Bralvi or anything else. but there Teachings are of Wahabies. weather they accept it or not.
I also wants to clear the thing that the metrial that have provided in this article is not sufficient but is right.All the Wahabies thing and Act like this.
The only Sect that have moderate views is Sunni or Brailvi or Dawat e Islami or Tehri e Minhaj ul Quran they are the same in teaching and acting as like Due Bundi or Wahabies.
A concept that should be corrected is that Sunnies do not drink and are indulg in dancing and this like other things. A bad thing is bad weather it is done by A Wahabi or Sunni.
If the Holy Prophit (SAW) is Human or not noor then why not we can become Nabi or Rasool. then what the difference remans between a Rasool and a Human.
And Lastly all those that says that La Illah ha illullah hu Muhmad dur ra sool allah, are Muslims but they may are not able to know what is Right and what is Wnong
Be Rational and Act Like a Rational……….
May the God Show the Whole Muslim the Way of True ISLAM………
good all these comment but i m a muslim and i know we should not believe in all the man made things or wht which is told by those who came after nawi s w m like the urdu slaam asking the things other then allah
wahabi antimusic antinasyeed antiparentsofprophet antitawassul antimilad antimadzhab antiterawih antiqunud antisyafii antiwiriddoa antitalqin beware of wahabi also beware of the oldreligion of sodom gommorah they teach homosexual lesbian gangsterism evev in schools to primary children pls take note
Wahabis AKA Salafis AKA anyhting else they call themselves are extremists and terrorists and have no clue about islam. They refuse all the muslim scholars other than abdul wahab and ibn taymiyya, and claim others as kafirs. They have no respect for the prophet Muhammad peace be upon him or his family. They destroyed many tombs such as prophets daughter Fatima Al Zahraa and sayid Husayn Ibn Ali, and were going to destroy the Kabaa. They make fatwas not based on quran or hadith, and have many kafir beleifs although they dont teach it openly. may Allah guide them.
Assalam alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuhu
From a lot of the comments above, it is clear that many of the Muslims are not very knowledgeable on the principles of Islam, which are fairly well defined.
We must remember that the Quran has this to say:
[006:159] Verily, those who divide their religion and break up into sects (all kinds of religious sects), you (O Muhammad [sal-Allâhu ‘alayhi wa sallam]) have no concern with them in the least. Their affair is only with Allâh, Who then will tell them what they used to do.
We need to also remember that Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) also stated that like the Bani Israeel which split into 72 sects, his Ummat would split into 73 sects, all destined for Hell except those who follow the Quran and his Sunnah.
So it becomes of prime importance to make ourselves aware of what the Quran and the Hadith have to say regarding how we should look up to Allah, His Angels, His Books, His Prophets, and so on, and how we should learn to live with our fellow human beings. We should remember that if we accuse another Muslim as not being a Muslim (i.e., that he is a Kaafir), if the accused has even once in his lifetime affirmed the Shahadah, the accusation bounces back on the accuser.
Most people do not have the time to locate good books that could provide the information that is much needed to educate themselves on the finer points of Islam, and if any of you are interested, I will send you good books, based on the Quran and the hadith, that you can go through.
If you mail me on amsait@live.com I will add you to my database, and send you good matter. If you like it you can continue to receive more good matter regularly; if not, you can have yourself removed by mailing me to do so.
Wassalam.
Adam Mohomed Sait.
Muslim r two in types sahabi and wahabi. Sahabi were muhammad mustafa s.a.w. followers and wahabi were non s.a.w. Followers. Wahabi doesn’t consider any holy man or vali they doesn’t go any dargah or holy place….
quran is a word of allah and muhammad S.A.W is last messangers does prophet says go to dargah ??
The author may need to check the work here.
I read the first few paragraphs to find that Wahabis do not celebrate ‘milad’, I personally do not celebrate this as I have still not come across any hadith showing that and of the 4 caliph celebrated this. These 4 great men were closest to the prophet, so if anyone was to celebrate it, it would be them. Also thinking logically here, why did the prophet never celebrate his own birthday? And let’s be honest, not many of you celebrate the births of the other 4 caliph so why do you choose to celebrate those of other sufi’s.
I will wait for one of you to show me a hadith that any one of the 4 caliph celebrated this event.
So from what you state I would now be classed as a Wahabi.
However reading further you state Wahabi do not follow the 4 imam. But Alhamdulillah I follow the Hanafi school of thought.
So now I’m a sunni according to your categorization.
You also state wahabis wear charms and believe in their healing powers. Now I don’t wear any charms and I don’t believe the charm itself is the healer, but the iyaats that may be inscribed within those charms
through allahs will is what provides the cure.
So let’s make that me being a sunni.
As for Deu Band, let’s just say the scholars I know from there are frequently giving speeches on how to treat women equally and fairly etc. As for women not driving, in general a Muslim woman cannot travel without mahraam over a certain period. None of the scholars who have studied from Deu band say anything about not allowing them to drive. The ones I know of here in the uk, let their wives drive!
Now intercession is an interesting one. I don’t believe if I go to the prophets grave he will intercede for me. Let’s think this logically. If this was the case it is in the best interest to go and visit the grave to ask for forgiveness (already sounds a bit like idol worshipping) If this was to be the case then surely anyone who can’t visit the grave is at a disadvantage. Remember Haj is fardh for only those who have the means. So surely guaranteeing intercession at the prophets grave is a bit far fetched. As for visiting graves in general, I believe this is ok. I don’t however believe in all this moor stuff to the extent some make it out to be. I do believe my durood is reached to the prophet but nothing more than that.
Given your article, on this point il classify myself as a Sunni.
so as I have tried to show, the classification you have made is somewhat incorrect.
And not to keep you in suspense for much longer, I consider myself as a Sunni Muslim.
don’t look down on someone else, for perhaps allah(SWT) will forgive them for their ignorance ,and punish you for you’re arrogance.
may allah guid us all.
insha allah.
i am a sunni muslim……and i really hate wahabi communality……there is no pleasure to abide by the rules of wahabi’s communality.we have to understand this.
Dear Friends,
Talking in general,going to Dargha sharif is not at all wrong. We dont ask the saints or Vali ALLAH to fulfill our wishes,we just ask them to remember ourselves and our wishes and pray for us in your duas.There may be people who would be going to Darghas and asking for their fulfillment but its just a misconception in their minds as definitely the Vali ALLAH are closer to ALLAH then we all r.
I am a Sunni and i believe in Darghas and will do so till my last drop of blood and also teach my children to do the same.THE WAHABIS ALSO CHANGE TH EMEANING OF THE QURAN AND THEN THEY TEACH OR RATHER MISLEAD PEOPLE.I OPENLY CHALLANGE ANY WAHABI TO HAVE A DEBATE.
JAZAKALLAH
ASAK, am from Hyderabad, India.
Nobody in the world celebrate the MILAD with much enthusiastic as we do in Hyderabad, India.
Wahabi’s don’t celebrate Milad (Birthday of Prophet Mohammed “PBUH” ) but believe me. But they also say that one should not indulge wasting money un-necessary.
Sunni’s celebrate MILAD with all they have, they decorate streets, homes, distribute sweets, FREE food for millions of people in one day alone. They also conduct MASS Marriages for Poor Muslims Brides/Grooms. They also have JALSA (Gathering) to praise Prophet Mohammed “PBUH”. They also praise PROPHET by reciting NAATS. Are these activities called SINs ????
Wahabi Says, donate money to poor instead of decorating.
We say, we do donate money to poor, but we also celebrate MILAD.
I have two mosque’s near my home. I goes to these two mosques for Prayers.
Both IMAMs of these two Mosque says, we are SUNNI.
But one Imam says, the other one don’t do FATEHA after namaz, they are wahabi/tableeqi, but this same IMAM says, we are SUNNI.
Am confused here, who are SUNNI and who are Tableeqi
My friends said to me that, you are going to that Masjid also, you have become Talbeeqi/Wahabi. But I said, no, they said they are SUNNI. If they are sunni, why they don’t do FATEHA.?
Am confused here, am not blaming anyone because I know one thing perfectly. These two sections love Prophet Mohammed “PBUH” very much.
The Major Differences
Wahabi
– don’t goes to dargah of sufi saint. they said its Shirk
– the don’t recite SALAM on Prophet Mohammed after Firday’s Prayers
– They invite you to go with them in JAMAAT (an islamic tour of 2/20/30 days)
– Strictly no MUSIC/Qawalis
– They tell you don’t go to Dargah of Sufi Saints
– do not celebrate MILAD (Birthday of Prophet Mohammed “PBUH”)
– They said QTV is not good, Peace TV is good.
Sunni
– Goes to Dargah of Sufi Saint.
but many people bow their head, which is 100% wrong.
but many people ask Sufi Saint for favors (oh baba give me that, give me this), which is 100% wrong, One must ask ALLAH “swt” alone.
– Qawalis in Dargah
– They recite SALAM after Firdays Prayer.
– Celebrate MILAD with much fan fare.
– QTV is good
– Peace TV is not-good, its wahabi channel
NOW YOU TELL ME WHO AM I ?
– I offer prayers in two masjids, they each other call SUNNI/Wahabi
– I also goes to GraveYard (of my relatives) and Offer Flowers and Pray & SEEK Mercy from ALLAH on the person on whom grave am standing.
– I don’t go to Dargah, but I do want to go to AJMER for Ziarat, not to ask for favors from Grave or for bowing my head, I’ll just offer FLOWERS on the grave. and i’ll LOOK towards QIBLA and ASK Almighty ALLAH for mercy on the person on whom grave am standing.
– I don’t indulge in Qawali but I do like/listen NAATs & HAMDs almost everyday on my system.
– I don’t see anything wrong in going for JAMAAT (islamic tour) to enhance my islamic knowledge, but I din’t went so far.
– I Believe in FATEHA
– I Do Ayat-e-karima at my home on special days, like Friday, Shab-e-Meraj. etc.
– I watch both TV Channels, QTV and PeaceTV.
– I 100% believe in QURAN and SUNNAH and all the saying of our Beloved Prophet Mohammed (pbuh).
Now, you tell me, WHO AM I ??? A SUNNI OR WAHABI ?
Do you know the meaning of WAHABI?
Wahab is one of the 99 names of ALLAH.
Wahabi means, the person who follow ALLAH.
I don’t know who I am, but I do know this.
Nobody is worth worship accept Almighty ALLAH and Prophet Mohammed is his Messenger. and I’ll not bow my head in any DARGAH, no, not at all. And i’ll not ask help from any one accept Almighty ALLAH.
But in my DUA, i’ll say,
Oh Allah, you are so generous and begger infront of you, please give me this, give me that, you are the only one who can give me.
You love Prophet Mohammed very much. I ask you in his name, Oh Allah please give me this and give me that.
That is how I ask my Almighty Allah.
My Dua is like.
Oh Allah, thanks for everything you gave me since my birth to till date. Ofcourse its only you who have given me all which I have. Thanks Allah
Oh ALLAH, give wealth to poors
Oh ALLAH, give employment to jobless
Oh ALLAH, have mercy on those who died and are in their respective graves
Oh ALLAH, show right path who have gone astray
Oh ALLAH, give health to elders
Oh ALLAH, give cure to all who are ill
Oh ALLAH, please resolve the court cases of innocent
Oh ALLAH, so and so are in very bad condition, please have mercy on them and please provide solution for their problems.
etc, etc.
Allah Hafiz.
I made some spelling mistakes in my first thread, sorry for that,
Corrections are as follows:-
1st LINE: enthusiastic > enthusiasm
in between: the correct sentence are as follows:
Oh Allah, you are so generous and I AM begger infront of you.
Danish
assalamualaikum, first of all, the write of this article should check his facts before posting things so dangerous like this without any knowledge of what it is. in india, malaysia and other countries where aian culture prevail, many shirk prevails.. people call themselves sunni without realising that they r committing shirk by celebrating the3 brithday of the prophet. we all follow all the four islamic school and the prophets teaching very seriously and we adhere to the sunnat of the prophete and we treat our women with respect.. we r modern and think open. those celebrating prophet’s brithday are falling into darkness. we r all sunni but we should knw where we stand and go back to the origin of the religion, do not invent things which then you try to put names to those people who r doing it.. shirk is a big sin.. celebration of the prophetes birthday is a sin..(as celebrate ours is) going to darga is a sin..no intermediaries is allowed in islam.. we r all sunni, one nation, we believe in allah and the prophete muhamad SAW.. lets nt get our mind confused plz
you r right shadab.. if someone wants to learn islam, then they should read the life of the prophete mohammad SAW. read hadith and from my knowledge, no particular hadith was mentioned in going to tombs n pray n dance n sing or whatsoever.. many people do it and they have to learn that this is shirk. we pray, n we make doas for dead people. we ask only from allah and not from dead people. some imaam says that those dead people are nearer to god than us, THAT is completely wrong.. when u r dead, u start paying for ur sins.. the only thing whihc remains is ur good deeds, quran recitation which u did all ur life, prayers accomplished and doas make by people still alive.. SO IF U THINK THIS DEAD PEOPLE WHO IS IN HIS TOMB AND PRAYING FOR A CHANCE TO COME BACK TO CHANGE HIS BAD DEEDS TO GOOD DEEDS WOULD DO ANYTHING FOR U WHO HAS COME TO BEG ON HIS TOMB???? WE ASK ONLY TO ALLAH AND NO ONE ELSE..
and the person who wrote this article is trying to divide us more than uniting us.. go back to the hadith of the prophete.. its where u will learn the life of the prophet and how to live ur live.. bkuz islam is the way of life..
Aslamolaykum,
muslims stop calling each other kafirs. Do not mock each other, for if you do the other party will never open their heart towards the true path.
This article contains many fallacies. They are trying to make a distinction between sunni and wahabi?
wahabi is a name of Allah and no one calls themselves a wahabi.
so from where i stand wahabis are sunnis as they follow the Quran and hadeeth.
They do not follow only one school of fiqh but the correct opinion of the the four imaams.
such as Imam Ahmed, Shafi and Hanbal said not allowed to show your feet(for women) but abu hanifa said it is allowed. the most correct opinion is therefore don’t show your feet.
I don’t see anything wrong with this as due to internet we can now establish what is more correct in small issues due to corroboration.
so this article first dosnt make sense who the ‘sunnis’ are as wahabi’s are sunnis?
so my guess is by just saying celebrating milad and grave worship the sunnis they are referring to are sufis/barelvis. which in actual fact does not make up 90% of the population!
Sufi’s and Barelvi’s are mainly in indo/pak. some in turkey/eygpt.
but in the rest of the countries malaysia, kuwait, saudi, jordan, somalia, sudan, afghanistan, bosnia, palestine/yemen/oman…etc
sufism is not that major. but ‘wahabism’ is. by wahabism i refer to people that call themselves sunni’s and reject sufism.
countless things wrong with this article. just their to cause bickering and division among muslims and confuse them even further.
I swear Allah i never saw a single my wahabbi freinds or relative or any person i know that he become barelwei(sufis supporter)..but i know lot of barelwi(sufis believer) who become orthodox wahabi..anyway wahabbi is not sect but it is a label given by grave dancers…if u really want to know about barelvi(claiming themselve a sunni) than come to india and visit any dargah like ajmer..u will surely see their distribution of drugs and weeds openly to smoke and visit madina which is in over control u will see the differences..I swear wahabi childrens are more educated and they are professionals but on the other side sunnis childrens are more attracted toward dancings,weed smokings etc..if u r in india u will come to know..dont pretend that u that u dont know if u r indian…
SALAM TO SUNNI HANFI BARELVI. Here when i read about the thoughts regarding Barelvi i really feel sadness..BEACAUSE Many things written against Barelvi to make people feel that Barelvi are wrong. But listen when the attacks on Quraan and Hadith was done, when the wrong thoughts were written on islam at that time thier was one person who gave the reply to all wrong thoughts of wahabi n najdi who fought against this hell group who was that great person? Hstory becomes witness for that person whom whole world known as IMAM AHEMAD RAZA FAZILE BARELVI RADIYALLAHO TALA ANHO.Who make us know the respect of AHLE BAIT. AULAMA E KIRAM HAD PASSED THE FATWA THAT IF ANY ONE SAYS THAT MILADE MUSTAFA IS SHIRK THAN THAT PERSON IS NO MORE IN ISLAM.
Salaam,
1st thing is you shouldn’t be saying Radi Allahu Tala Anhu to Ahmed Raza Barelvi as it is a title used for Sahaba and he definatley isnt a Sahaba my friend.
2nd you say he bought you the truth and bought Jihad against the Wahabi/Najdi?
If you believe that, then ask me where was his Jihad against the British occupation of Indo/Pak?
Why did he give fatwas against fighting the British empire and that if anyone did Jihad against them they would be a Kaafir????
So as far his Fatwas you so much hold in high esteem, they dont mean anything. Ahmad Raza is happy to do Jihad against other Muslims but not against his Kufaar Masters.
He misguided all the barelvis and even told them a special prayer to supllicate and ask from Hazrat Adul Qadir Jilani RH … If you people think this is made up then read his book of Fatwas for the Fatwa against Jihad at the time of occupation and his book Mul Fuzat for the supplication to Hazrat Abdul Qadir Jilani RH.
This is the belief system of Barelvis so all of you out there who are posting you dont ask from graves, your own books and your founder Ahmad Raza tells you to do this so stop denying.
If you still dont believe then phone Madani Channel (Dawat e Islami) and ask them a question, IF SOMEONE IS NOT CONCEIVING A CHILD, what should they do, they will tell you live on T.V. to perform the above supplication facing towards the Tomb of the Saint ….
And for all the people who are swearing at the other sects should be ashamed, as Islam does not tell you to swear but to argue with someone with knowledge and in a nice way.
If you barelvis truly believe you are Ahle Sunnah Wal Jammat then act like a Sunni and follow the path of Rasool SAW and ask yourself was the kind of language you people use allowed in the way of Rasool SAW????
Instead of swearing, try and prove you point with Quran, Hadeeth and other Islamic means and come on here with the intention to teach someone and bring them the correct way, beacuse 1 Muslim should care for another if they think he is on the wrong path should strive to bring him the right way and in this kind of love for each other 1 of us will learn the right way Allah Willing ….
Anyone who wants to prove the Barelvis are on correct Aqeedah please prove the following, from Quran and Hadeeth:-
1 – IS MILAD A SUNNAH (permissable but not Sunnah)
2 – IS YAARWI A SUNNAH (innovation)
3 – IS KHATHAM ON THURSDAYS A SUNNAH (innovation of pagans and hindus)
4 – IS FATEHA A SUNNAH (perissable but not Sunnah)
5 – IS ASKING FROM THE PIOUS WHO HAVE RETURNED TO ALLAH A SUNNAH (Shirk)
6 – IS QAWWALI A SUNNAH (innovation)
7 – IS DANCING A SUNNAH (innovation of pagans)
8 – IS DOING PROSTRATION TO A SAINT A SUNNAH (Shirk)
If anyone can prove categorically the above from Quran and Hadeeth, where it clearly allows the above i will hold my hands up …
Please dont try and twist verses of the Quran and interpret Hadeeth wrongly, make clera proofs where such and such was done by Prophet PBUH or he the Beloved PBUH said you can do this or Allah Subhana Wa tala said you can do this!!!
Please anyone who can prove the points above, i will really appreciate it.
Wasalaam ….
im a sunni
if u look in the quran it dosnt say that u dont make milad and celebreate the prophets birthday
I want to, in-sha’ Allah, shed a little more clarity on the controversy between the Sunni `aqidah and that of the quasi-salafis (Wahhabis). Sadly, many of those who profess to follow traditional Sunni scholarship and `aqidah have only exacerbated the confusion, for they (these pseudo-traditionalists) have now tried to “close the door†on discussing matters of kufr (disbelief) and riddah (apostasy).
Every (genuine) Muslim believes that Allah is One and that there is only correct belief in Allah. If the person does not have the correct belief in Allah, then he is not a Muslim. Plain and simple. Consequently, you cannot have two people who self-identify as Muslims, yet they have two opposing and contradictory beliefs in Allah—for they would be praying to two different beings. They may both be, but one must necessarily be, wrong. This requires us to establish what the correct belief in Allah is, and as a result, we will know what the wrong belief(s) in Allah are.
Allah is One; Allah is Incomparable; Allah is Free-of-Need; Allah is Omnipotent; Allah is Omniscient; Allah is the One and Only Creator. Nothing is to be except what Allah wills. The quasi-salafis would not apparently disagree with those statements mentioned above (although they do, in reality disagree with their implications). It should be obvious that the Creed that is rationally consistent and consonant with the Qur’an and Hadith is superior to the creed that contradicts the Qur’an and Sunnah and is riddled with logical absurdities. The Sunnis say that there is nothing in our belief in Allah that contradicts the judgment of reason. We can start from two premises (that the quasi-salafi is forced to agree with, at least on the surface) to demonstrate the inconsistencies of the Wahhabi doctrine. The Sunnis say:
1. Allah ABSOLUTELY does not resemble the creations (112:4, 16:74; 42:11).
2. Allah ABSOLUTELY does not need the creations (112:2; 29:6; 3:97)
These are two premises derived not from “falasafee,†but, as we can see, from the Qur’an itself. The Sunni scholars derived from the above Verses the principles that (1) Allah is not an object (or spatial entity) and (2) that Allah exists without being in a location (not in one particular place, nor in all places). If Allah had been an object or a spatial entity, then Allah would share in common qualities that are shared in common with the creations Simply look at the things around you: they are objects that exist in space. Allah ABSOLUTELY does not resemble the creations; hence, Allah is not an object and Allah is not in space.
Furthermore, Allah absolutely does not need the creations. Allah is not a location (or direction). Location (place/direction) is something other than Allah. And since everything that exists other than Allah is a creation, and Allah does not need the creations, then it should be evident to all that Allah exists without being in a location or direction. Furthermore, the thing that is in a location requires a specified amount of space to exist. Allah does not require any of the creations for His Existence (including, space or place), for Allah is Incomparable and Free-of-Need.
LOST IN SEMANTICS
Why do the Wahhabis believe Allah is a giant spatial entity located above their heads? The Wahhabis (quasi-salafis) believe such because they insisted on a (selectively) literalist doctrine. They innovated a rule that says that all the Verses (and Hadith) referring to Allah have to be taken at “face valueâ€â€”that is, they (claim to) reject the idiomatic nature of the Arabic language. However, even with this premise, they are inconsistent. They do not take Verses that (if taken literally would) mean: Allah is closer to us than our jugular veins (50:16); or that Allah forgets (45:34); or that Allah is everywhere (57:4); or that Allah is below us (96:19); or that Allah is a giant illumination that fills up the Heavens and Earth (24:35); etc. in their literal sense. The same can be said about numerous Hadiths for which the quasi-salafis reject literal interpretations.
What the Wahhabis did is read the Verses that refer to Allah as being “above†or “high†in their literal sense (while ignoring those Verses that if taken literally would say otherwise). The Wahhabis took this position because of their erroneous assumptions about Allah (that is, they assumed Allah to be an object of some sort, and that Allah requires space for His Existence) and their general weakness in the Arabic language (or English language, for that matter). When the Sunnis say Allah is Al-`Aliyy (“The Most Highâ€) they are referring to the Glory, Perfection, Holiness, and STATUS of Allah—they do not mean a literal location or direction. Just as in the olden days when the English subjects of the crown referred to the king as “their royal HIGHNESS,†they did not mean that the king occupied the highest location in the kingdom, but that he had the highest social STATUS (at least according to them).
Another semantic problem of the Wahhabis is the absurd of claiming to take the Verses “literally†and then in the same breath reject the literal meaning. The Arabic language is vast. A single word may contain a dozen or more meanings. The Wahhabis claim that Allah has a literal “Face,†“Eyes,†“Fingers,†“two right Hands,†one “Shin†and a “pair of Feet†(on the comparatively small Kursiyy). Now all of us who know English know that, for instance, a “face†(in its literal—non-figurative sense) is the “front part of the head†and that hands are the “organs of grasping beginning at our wrists.†Imam Al-Qushayri (a genuine Sufi and Sunni scholar of `Aqidah) said that it is absurd to claim that Allah has a literal shin (saaq) and then turn around and say that this alleged literal shin is not a bone in the lower leg. Similarly one can’t say Allah has a literal front part of the head, but it’s not a front part of the head. Either one means that Allah has literal limbs, organs, and appendages that is, one believes Allah is an object (which is tashbeeh and disbelief)—OR—one does not mean that Allah literally has a face, fingers, eyes, shin, etc. And if they do not mean that Allah has a literal face, fingers, eyes, shin, then the quasi-salafis shouldn’t (mis)translate Verses and Hadiths and say that Allah does.
Furthermore, we see the Wahhabis get lost in translation. If one opens even an Arabic-English dictionary, such as, Hans Wehr or Al-Mawrid (which are by NO MEANS comprehensive Arabic dictionaries), we see that the term “Wajh†(what the Wahhabis claim is a “face when attributed to Allah) has about TWENTY-FIVE meanings listed in Al-Mawrid. The term “saaq,†(from Al-Qalam, 42), which the Wahhabis attempt to use to “prove†that “Allah will show off the front part of His (alleged) lower leg†(that is, a shin), actually means “the matter became difficult,†(page 443, Hans Wehr—the idiom of “showing the shin,†kashaf `an saaq is sort of like the English phrase “roll up your sleevesâ€).
Contrary to the claims of the quasi-salafis, the Sunnis do not “deny the Attributes of Allah.†We confirm what Allah ascribed to Himself IN THE ARABIC LANGUAGE. Allah is attributed with “Yad,†“Wajh,†“`Ayn,†etc.—FULL STOP—while being absolutely certain that none these Attributes refer to something with bodily or spatial characteristics. Or, we can follow the method of many of the Sunni scholars, including the Salaf, such as, `Abdullah ibn `Abbas, At-Tabari, and Mujahid: we can apply an ACCEPTABLE specific meaning (or translation) for these Attributes that conforms with the Arabic language AND conforms with two of the basic premises of the `Aqidah: (1) Allah ABSOLUTELY does not resemble the creations (2) Allah ABSOLUTELY does not need the creations; hence, any meaning that would lead to ascribing to Allah the attributes of objects and bodies or implying that Allah is in space or a location is categorically rejected.
In conclusion, Allah is One—that is, Allah is Unique, Allah has no partners, Allah is not a body or object composed of parts.
The True Creed is one and the same among the Muslims: Our Lord is too Great and Glorious to be ascribed with the deficiencies of being in a place or direction, for Allah is the Creator of all places and directions and Allah does not need the things He created. Again, this matter is not complicated to understand. Sadly, however, there are pseudo-traditionalists out on the circuit who seem bent on making the most elementary matters of Imaan and kufr as obscure as possible. And on the other hand, we have those who have fallen for the corporealist and anthropomorphic Najdi doctrine from the Saudi Arabia kingdom. May Allah make us among people of the moderate way—those who make a just distinction between Imaan and kufr, who enjoin good and forbid evil, and do so with sincerity and wisdom and without transgression.
With Allah is the success.
Aslamu Alaikum, Brothers and Sisters,
From the all the above posts we can see the Prophecy of our beloved Rasool SAW come true, re the sects.
I know many barelvis, salafis/wahabis, sufis, jamat islami, tableeghis, deobandis and others. I can categorically say i feel ashamed when i look at some of the posts above and see some people spouting nonsense due to ignorance and lack of knowledge. We have become accustomed to listening to the barelwi who said the wahabi did such and such and we believed it without even researching for ourselves. We have become like the sheep, when one sheep runs all behind it run with it, without knowing why the 1st one ran!
I have been bought up a tableeghi and have many times been called a wahabi? i was accused many times of going to a wahabi mosque who didnt read Dua after Namaaz? I was laughed at and called Wahabi for wearing my trousers above my ankles, i was mocked for trimming my moustache, i was asked why i did Gushth (knocking doors to remind people of prayer) and said it wasnt islamic.
i pray at the mosque and i do dua after every namaaz but they still wont believe but go on hearsay and will not check themselves!
today them same people have started capying and doing tabligh (jamat islami). have started wearing trousers above ankles (jamat islami) shave there moustache (barelvis,jamat islami), knocking in doors (jamat islami), WHY beacuse there scholars finally revealed the truth to them!
This is just the tip of the iceberg, now i said i am a tableeghi but there are ignorant people who label as wahabi anyone who dosent celebrate milad or do the khatham on thursdays or dosent practice yaarwi sharif.
and i can honestly say these people who label everyone not like them as wahabis are the barelvis (so called sunnis)
they themselves practice innovations and called it Sunnah?
If they were to practice something and say it is not Sunnah but we do it to better ourselves, many would bot have a problem with this but they fight to make it Sunnah when it isnt.
My whole extended family here and in Pak apart from my Father, Mother, brothers and sisters all grave worship, they bow there heads, they kiss the graves, they pray to the Saints, they ask for children and when soe have children they say, such and such a saint gave me this child (Nauzubillah). Prophet SAW said visit graves to remember that you will be there one day to but never said to do what some people do today. Anyone who dosent believe dancing and grave kissing and mixing of drugs in drink (PAHNG) is a lie then go to youtube and see for yourself.
If you want to celebrate Milad, fine but dont say it is Sunnah as a Sunnah is what Rasool SAW did themselves, if they didnt do it then how can it be a Sunnah?
Also you say you decorate and spend lavishly but equally spend on the poor so its ok. Would you then say it is ok if you pray 5 times a day and then have occasional alcohol?
Would Allah and Prophet PBUH be less happy if you never put up any lights or decorations and spent that money also on the poor? Remember Islam isnt about Show or who can put the most lights up or who can buy the biggest Milad cake and who has the biggest party, Islam is about Amaal and what is concealed in your breast, as Allah knows what you hide behind your breast! If your heart is clean the reward is greater, Prophet SAW preferred plain living.
I can go and on about how in Milad a chair is decorated and put on a stage and when asked who the chair is for, they say for Prophet SAW. All of a sudden everyobe stands up and start reciting and they say Prophet SAW has arrived? Which person has the eyes to see Prophet PBUH arrive (nauzubillah) and if this is the case then why are they waiting for Prophet PBUH to arrive when they themselves believe Rasool SAW is HAZIR NAZIR, I.E. he is everywhere all the time????????
Also men and women intermixing and dancing on milad and at darghas, putting out salt or flour to look for signs in them from Allah or Prophet PBUH after the milad gathering has finished. How are all these things part of Islam and when these things are made part of milad how can you defend it? You want everything your wicked way and label others but are quick to drop a ton of fatwas on others.
It is the brainwashed Barelvi mindset which is damaging Islam today, new things are introduced all the time and made as part of the Islam when they are not, if we want to get on then there scholars need to wake up and stop instilling hatred towards other Muslims and making them believe all others are kafir Astagfirullah ….
Even though of the differences above i will never say kafir because it isnt that but anmore act of Kufar because of ignorance.
WE will never be one until Imam Mahdi AS and Isa AS grace us misguided people and bring us under 1 banner the banner of Allah and Prophet SAW, Inshallah …
So till then just sabr is the key and sabr is given by Allah All Mighty and wise …
May Allah send his mercy upon us soon, as we are in great need fo it, Ameen, Suma ameen …
when a child is born does he know what religion he going too i guess no
when you give the azaan in to a childs ear then he knows he a muslim
but the child does not knw if he a sunni or wahabbi
so i think we all shud be muslim first then think about ur firq later
What you said is mostly wrong. Prophet Muhammad (saw) is the best of mankind and is the one who completed the religion for us. All forms of Muslims already give “extra special care and respect” towards the Prophets of Islam (as) let alone Prophet Muhammad(saw).
Celebrating the birthday of the Prophet (saw) was never done by the Prophet (saw) nor any of his companions. Even the idea of celebration is wrong as the only type of celebration we as Muslims have is Eid. These events are NOT rooted in Islam but rather rooted in tradition where some Muslims mix religion with tradition. If you do not have guidance from the Qur’an or the Hadiths of the Prophet (as) then why do it? why argue about something you do not have hard evidence and risk innovation or shirk? Why not become better at what is already confirmed halaal to do such as extra Salaah or Zakaat (which can be in many forms from volunteering to even smiling)
Never heard a person saying that the prophet (saw) is still present in the world so I dnt no where you are coming from with that……… since when has any prophets or sahabas use intermediaries? If the Sahabahs were closest to the prophet (saw) wont they be the first to commit these actions let alone even promote them?? Muslims differ on whether to visit graves or not, it isnt Sunni Vs Wahabi. Some say it is not haraam others says it is. All agree that worshiping graves or attending graves to be closer to Allah IS haraam.
Fiqhs (Islamic Laws) are needed to not fall into Shirk or innovation. The average Muslim cannot make his or her own decisions about beliefs and actions otherwise they can easily perform major haraam.
I don’t know if Wahabis do not allow work with females but I do no a lot of Sunni Muslims not living in the west still do these kinds of stuff….. better not to point at others, especially if you are also at fault.
Summary
1. Wahabi Muslims are followers of Muhammad ibne Abdul wahab present in the 18th century in Saudi Arabia whereas Sunni Muslims are followers of Prophet Muhammad and his companions.
(You could say “Sunni Muslims are followers of Hanfi, Hanbli, Malakii and Shaafeyii” then)
2. Sunni Muslims believe in intercession and mysticism whereas Wahabis call them as deviants and wrongful innovations in Islam.
(Read what I said about graves)
3. Sunni Muslims strictly follow one of the four schools of thoughts or madhabs of fiqah or Islamic jurisprudence whereas Wahabis follow their sheikh.
(There is no evidence that Sunni Muslims strictly follow one school of thought so do not make up stuff)
4. Wahabis do not observe annual Sufi festivals, events or the birthday of Prophet Muhammad.
(That is because they are not Sufi; hence they are called Wahabi. Its like saying Hanafi does not follow annual Wahabis festivals….. its really dumb to say that)
5. Sunni Muslims wear charms and believe in healing powers unlike Wahabi beliefs like visiting tombs or shrines of saints.
(You confuse Wahabi with Sufi about visiting graves I think? Besides they claim to follow the Qur’an and Sunnah so when you criticize them or something back up your answers with the Qur’an or Hadith because they surely will)
Any mistakes I may have said is due to the devil’s misguidance. Any good I may have said is from Allah.
Inshallah rather than arguing, we all look for the true path of Islam as no1 has 100% knowledge that what they do is going to get them to heaven. It is all a matter of faith.
Allah had said in his holy Quran Ataullah he Attaul Rasul Obey Allah and Obey Rasul this ayat proof that Prophet was not an ordinary man he has been granted high position a commanding position and also asked by Allah to Obey Rasul. Prophet had Meeraj which is another proof that he was not an ordinary man , Prophet had revelation and had been visited by Gabrail angel without excepting Prophet as messager of Allah one cannot become Muslim so again Prophet was not an ordinary man he had seperated the moon one of the miracle which is beyond the control of any human being . Prophet is the model for every muslim to follow and one who is ememy to Prophet in enemy to Allah as mention in the Quran so one who love Prophet also mean that he love God .
Any one who lower the standard and honour given to Prophet by Allah and think only Allah is sufficent When Allah himself love the Prophet and send Darud on him
WE MUSLIMS BELIEVE AND WORSHIP ONLY ONE TRUE ALLAH(GOD),STRICTLY FOLLOW THE WAYS(SUNNAH) OF OUR BELOVED PROPHET MUHAMMAD(SAW).LOVE SAHABIS, TABAINS ,TABA-TABAINS, RESPECT AND HONOUR THE AULIA ALLAH BY DOING ISALE SAWAB AND ASK THEM TO MAKE DUA’S(NO MUSLIM BEG OR ASK FROM AULIA ALLAH,EXCEPT ONE WHO LACKS ISLAMIC KNOWLEDGE).MOMIN WHO FIGHTS AND DIE IN THE WAY OF ALLAH ARE SHAHEEDS.THE AULIAHS WHO ALSO DIE IN THE LOVE OF ALLAH ARE SHAHEEDS.ACCORDING TO QURAN,THE MOMIN WHO DIES IN THE WAY OF ALLAH ARE NOT DEAD,THEY ARE ALIVE IN THE GRAVE AND GET A SUSTENANCE FROM ALLAH .LET WE ALL CELEBRATE MILADUN NABI,URS ACCORDING TO STRICT ISLAMIC SHARIAH LAWS.THESE ACTIVITIES BRING MUSLIM BROTHERS CLOSER.
Dear Muslim brothers and sister
Followers of all sects in Islam Sunni whabis ,Shia etc stick to five prayers a day and follow the teaching of prophet Muhammad pbuh ,than all issues will have the answer and resolve it self
Just remembers five times a day ,that is purpose of our creation and universal
Thanks for reading
Asslam O Alikum all Brothers and sisters
I read all comments. i think first of all it is very neccessary to find the Naji firqa because in Hadees
Rasool Ullah Sallalaho Alihe Wasalam say ” meri ummat 73 firqon me devide ho gi un me se 72 jahanam me or 1 nejat pany wala ho ga”. Every one say I am right. my Quistion is that how we find that firqa?
Teacher,
Look to the creed. Is the person teaching the Creed of the Sunni majority, as has been transmitted thru history? Are they teaching that Allah is totally different from the creations, and that Allah absolutely does not need the creations? Are they teaching that Allah is not a body and that Allah exists without being in time, place, or direction? This is a good start to see if the person is teaching the Truth. As for the Wahhabis—even if they call themselves “salafis”—they do not have the proper belief in Allah. They are mushriks. The Wahhabis are mushriks because they do not pray to Allah. They pray to a giant (imaginary) object that has limbs, organs, and other body parts. This imaginary object they pray to moves about thru the heavens and also sits. Muslims do not pray to an object—an idol worshiper prays to an object. Look to my post above; it has some more details about the difference between the Wahhabis and the Sunnis.
“YA ALLAH , SHOW US THE STRAIGHT PATH”
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“YA ALLAH , SHOW US THE STRAIGHT PATH”
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This is a good topic!!! And i am sure i will get attacks from many.
Wahabis are the group that prophet mentioned, they will be reading the quran so much but they do not regard it.
Pure islam, a very pure islam is realy found in ibadh teachings! Though others will call them Khawarij! Ibadh are not khawarij, ibadh did not betrayed seyyid Ali, they told Ali to continue the war, Ali accepted but there wa a majority of people wanted to end the war after muawiya raise the quran, when Ali signed the peace then the ibadhis part away from Ali because Ali did not follow the judgment in the quran, the judgment in the quran said to fight a muslim group that will cause violance among the group, but Ali signed the peace arbitration!
Later on Ali admitted what he did was wrong after muawiya betrayed him, he went to ask ibadh for the help and ibadhis rejected because they no longer considered hm as Caliph. Well he went on his own to fight muawiya……history continues(email me for a true ibadh history and you will know who is khawarij)
note: ibadhis were known as al nahrawaan
bak to the topic…
Wahabbi have the habit of calling other muslims as kaffirs unless he is a wahabi follower.
They believe allah has body parts though its not like human’s…..this is totally against the quran.
They dnt pray in other sects mosque…..they r the splitters of the religion as mentioned in the quran.
They praise their 18th century sheikhs rather than prophet companions
and soooo many zionist belief they hold, and gues what? Their sheikh Ibn Baz claimed that the earth is flat and its not moving whoever says otherwise is a kaffir or he should repent, now this prove that they are going against tha quran, the earth is egged shape and its moving, as stated in the quran. Thanks to modern science and the quran he was criticized and he said soooorryyy!!
Wahabis are not sunni, they are wahabi!!
I have a question for all sunnis including wahabi,
why somepeople fold their hands on the chest, others above the chest, others below the belly button, others on the belly button? Which one is right?
My email chilubi007@yahoo.ca for ibadh history and any question you have
” Wahabis are not sunni, they are wahabi!! “????
can you tell me what do you mean when u say this?this is nonsense.you need education.
And also you speak lies,Wahabbis do not claim Allah Subhan watala having body parts.
The difference between Sunni and Wahabbi is that Wahabbis do not visit graves for begging from them,they ask from ALLAH (The Rabb) meaning sustainer.
The brother has brought a good topic to speak on,but he has mentioned his point of views,regarding women he has mentioned a wrong point.Yes in Saudi Arabia,women are not allowed to work side by side of Men.Can you show me any verse from Quran and Hadith where it is stated they can work or they have to work,Instead The Prophet Mohammad(SAWS) asked women to walk along the sides of walls of Masjid and do not mingle with them. Ummul Momineen then said they walked so closed to the wall that they got scratches.I have seen women working here,and they are all proud working like that. I hope you would not like your sisters,mother and wife to work like you say “equally” and “side by side”.
“This day have I perfected for you your religion and completed My favor on you and chosen for you Islam as a religion.”
— Qur’an 5:3
Celebrating Birthday,deathday are all aqeedah of Christains,and muslims are prohibited to copy them.
Urs,Kunde(esp in India),chilla,chatti,daswa,besswa,Chaliswa are all innovations in religion,and innovations in Islam is Prohibited and kufr.Do you think there is something incomplete in Islam that you need to add to it.
Brothers Please I request you all to practice Islam perfected by Allah and as practiced by Sahaba.
Dears … let us not talk of difference of opinion within sects let us talk about similarities .. for example all Sunnis (by the way there is no sect Wahabi .. even in Saudi Arabia people follow Fiqh of Imam Shafai (AR) and Imam Ahmed ibn Hanble (AR) and even Imam Abu Hanifa (AR)) agree on 5 time Salah (prayers), Siyyam, Haj, Zakat, and Tuheed/Risalat. And except for Salah all Fardhs are similarly followed by all Sunnis and even Shias. Let us also not get carried away due to small differences in how to perform Sallah. Let us do it the way you want.
So far as myths of Nur or Bashar and events like Urs, Chaliswan etc can anybody quote any Fatwa or orders (or even permission) from any of the 4 Imams. None of these nonesences are in Sunnis. And Ibn-e-Wahab only asked the people to stop grave worshiping. In Saudi Arabia all speeches (even the normal company meetings) start with Praise to Allah and prasie to Prophet Muhammed PBUH. So please let us not say anything without knowing.
Yes ladies in KSA are not allowed for driving …. why should a noble lady drive when she has men servants (her father, brother, husband, sons) ….
Again let us talk about similarities
Yes ladies in KSA are not allowed for driving …. why should a noble lady drive when she has men servants (her father, brother, husband, sons)
I like your sense of humor.
Is not allowed because has no need.
You can`t be serious.
Does she has the right to decide or not?
Anyway, a noble lady would not ask very hardworking for her servants. She can save their fatigue by maybe driving.
i would like to clear somethings up. first off women are allowed to drive as long as there is proof that there where abouts are known, and this is to help facilitate working women in saudi arabia. also whabi is an incorrect term which is widly used by sufi’s and the mida to deomnize the group of as-salafiyah. which there is a major difference in the tem as-salafiyah follow the first 3 generations of muslims and the hadith narrarated by them. secondly they do not follow abdul-wahab like the sufi claimafter he told them not to worship grave and the such as they were bidahs. when we as muslims state things about other muslims we must be accurate, as even the statement that wahabis call muslims kafir is incorrect because unless the said muslims commits shirk then placing them selves as munafiq they are still muslims mis guided or not. the group that calls everyone kafir are taqfiris and not as-salafiyah.
Dear Wahabi moslim friends,
Let me put it this way like Ghandi says (even a non moslim) if you want to change the world start with yourself. Should I follow this message or not? I think you have become Gumrah (lost your ways). You have spent billions of dollors in madrassas and mosques arround the world to propogate Wahabiat or Salafis while you could build roads, schools, factories and orphanages in poor moslim countries to improve their livelihood and save their lives. Just before you eat in Ramadhan go to your internet and watch some programmes about the refugees in Somalia and then we will discuss. Do something else very simple: live like Mohammad pbuh. Please stop these empty discussions get real go back and Quran again and above all dooooo ittttttttttt in real (amal)
regards,
no harm ment
Salaam afghani,
Thanks for the similar knowledge about how the Saudi’s spend billions of dollars around the world spreading their beliefs ,building mosques, sponsoring scholars and building Madrassahs for their own purposes and plans. When the Saudis took over Medina and other parts of the area, they desecrated all Muslim shrines, flattened graves of Mohamads’s (SAW) wife, Aisha ,her fathers’sgrave Ibn Bakar(PBUH) and pour petrol over prophet Mohamads’s mothers’s grave. This caused uproar amongst all Muslims. I also heard they built a toilet block where prophet Mohamad(SAW) was born. These are the Wahabis.
Recently in Syria, after the downfall of Ghadaffi, they dug out bodies of renowned imams from their shrines and burried them in common graves so that the sufis won’ t be able to make supplications. They want to build mosques and Islamic schools to teach Wahhabism . Now how inconsiderate and intolerant are they when Islam teaches tolerance and peace. I was born in Malaysia and I see this Arabisation of the country or rather Wahhabism of the country with the pouring in of Saudi money whereas millions of Muslims in poor countries like Somalia go hungry till they die of hunger. Wake up Muslim brothers. It is the Christians and Jews who are the first to get to the scene of disaster to assist. They do not care if you are Muslims or not. Humanity is not a religion but to me there is one race and that is the human race.
My heart breaks though I am not a pious Muslim, at the disunity and separation of brotherhood and the killings of one another. Aren’t we suppose to be brothers and sisters and should come to each others defense? Instead we are killing our own brothers.
We should live and let live and not force our beliefs on others. I believe you won’t be put in each others graves but your own. If we have to be punished, we’ ll be punished for our own deeds and not others.
Sorry I have to stop or I will start to sob.
Peace upon all my Muslim brothers and sisters and to all humanity wherever on earth. All humans deserve respect no matter the creed. As they say ,love and respect conquers everything.
Salaam
i do ur favour well said my brother
its not about driving a car by a women is allowed or not,,,,,,,,
when islam was completed there were no cars..
so the point is that,,islam requires every women to cover herself from head to toe
when ever she goes out.
Listen, what does it take to explain to people like you that these full walking tent outfits are NOT part of Islam and are mentioned nowhere in the Quran. This is just more nonsense Wahabi propogation preached by people like you who know nothing about Islam and just give it a bad name.
Look, these Nikabs hide the faces of people who wear them, when GOD himself has made every human look distinctive! Ask why GOD would give us all different faces, if we’re meant to hide them in these stupid outfits to look the same?
not every human look distinctive, because identical twins are identical. But that’s not the point, the point is that women are expected to cover themselves up and the easiest way is to wear burkah- at least that’s what the women think which is why they wear it. So they’re both comfy in what they’re wearing and also following the orders of Allah, not GOD!
WE KNOW THAT YOUR R ALSO A WAHABI SALAFI THATS WHY YOU HAVE GOT A QUESTION WHERE ITS IN QURAN IS IT IS IN HADEES DOES THE SAHABA HAVE EVER DONE THIS AND YOU ARE GIVING WAHABI SIDE TOO WE HAVE MANY PROOFS REGARDING URS AND MEELAD WE NEVER ASK ANY BODY DOES SAHABA DONE THIS OR NOT WE HAVE GREAT AALIM IN OUR RELIGION
AND YOU ARE SHOWING OLY SOME POINTS WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER POINTS
WHERE THESE WAHABIES TELL THEMSELVES THE GREAT MUSLIM AND OTHERS ARE KAAFIR NOW YOU TELL ME DOES SAHABA EVER TOLD ANY MUSLIM AS KAAFIR
Concerning the mawlid an nabi, its origins go back to more than 2 centuries after the death of Rasul Allaah, sall’Allaahu alayhe wa sallam … not to his life time, and so that can be nothing other than bid’ah, by definition.
Allaah subhana wa ta’Alaa tells the Believing women to let down their outer garments from their heads when they go outside of the home. Call it a “walking tent” if you like, the ahadeeth make it plain that the women dressed in such a fashion, excepting only when they went for Hajj, and even when they were making Hajj and Umrah, when men came within eye-shot of them, they lowered their face coverings again. The hujub and nuqub do not make it difficult to do anything halaal in public that one needs to do; the only thing that I have difficulty with is eating an ice cream cone, and I think that it could be argued that that is not a need!
To be Salafi by definition is to follow the Sunnah of Rasul Allaah, sall’Allaahu alayhe wa sallam, and the actions of his Sahabah, radhi Allaahu anhum. Salaf means predecessor. The best of generations are taken as examples, after Rasul Allaah, in accordance with his statement that the best generations are his own (the Sahahabah), the generation after that (the Tabi’een), and the generation after that (Tabi’tabi’een), radhi Allaahu anhum.
Declaring people to be kufar rather than Muslim, even if they are misguided or great sinners, is such a ponderous matter that it is usually the madhab that is refuted, rather than the individual. The hadeeth has never been rejected that states that there will be 73 sects of Muslims, and 72 of them will be in the Fire, and Allaah’s refuge is sought from this! The only group that will not be in the Fire are those who are upon what Rasul Allaah, sall’Allaahu alayhe wa sallam, and his Sahabah, radhi Allaahu anhum, were upon. It is that simple, but many follow Islaam culturally, rather than by knowledge and understanding to the best of their abilities. The reformers, who come every 100 years, remind the people of this, but do not bring anything new to the practices, although it may be new to those who had not known it in the first place. Islaam began as something strange, and will go out as something strange, and there is a Tree in Jannah for the strangers …
The following verse is from the main letter.
Summary
1. Wahabi Muslims are followers of Muhammad ibne Abdul wahab present in the 18th century in Saudi Arabia whereas Sunni Muslims are followers of Prophet Muhammad and his companions.
In the above letter he said,Wahabis are folowers of Ibne Abdul Wahab and not following Prophet Mohammed(sas),this is wrong Wahabis are more following teachings for our prophet sas,rather wahabis are working on peoples to read Quran and Sunnan.On the other side Sunni Muslims are reading other books for eg FAZAIL E AMAL etc,in India many masjids after asr prayer the imam will read FAZAIL E AMAL regularly.Since our Prophet sas has warnes his umma to hold only QURAN and SUNNA then why are are going for third,fourth book and folowing some mullas etc.
i think the above articles are interesting but a distortion of the truth…
Agreed. The article is based on opinions, not facts. You couldn’t use it as a reference for Islamic studies even in a non-Muslim classroom.
What you have just said that imam Ali made a mistake, this is not right! Or we are talking about different Imam. Imam Ali was not like an ordinary man with simple knowledge. For this reasoned anybody could become imam. If you search the hadith regarding Imam ali and what prophet and Quran has said about him, you will realize that what the ibadhis did by parting from Imam ali was wrong. As they did not believe in their Imam and thought their knowledge and understanding about Islam are more than Imam Ali. You have to study the full pictures of what happened around that time and why Imam ali accepted the piece arbitration otherwise if you just read what the ibadh has said, it leasves you where you are now!
Difference between Sunnis and Wahabis.
Those who speak in favour of Sunni, it is high time for them to have understood the meaning of sunnis and the contents of Quran and the Traditions of the Prophet (S).
Sunnis are those who follow the first principle of Islam -Quran- and the Traditions of the Prophet (S).
Quran is the Book of Allah. Traditions of the Prophet (S) is the practical explanation of Quran done by the Prophet (S) by means of his words, deeds and tacit approval.
The preaches of the Prophet (S) was mainly focussed in establishing Tauheed – Islamic Monotheism. So, it is a must for a person, who wants to live like a Muslim, to know what is Tauheed and what are its branches.
Tauheed is to make Oneness of Allah in His Ruboobiyyath, in His Uloohiyyath or Ibadath and in His Attributes and Names. If any one who associates partners in any of these, he has commited one of the biggest crime what is called “Shirk”. The one who commits shirk is in the Hell for ever.
Now, think about those Muslim who are said to be Sunnis. Most of the sunis associates partners in respect of Ibadath. The first of the two testimonials of Islam specifically points out that there is none , but Allah to be worshipped. Here some Sunnis understand the word “Worship” is only five times prayer, fasting, giving charity and performing Hajj. No doubt, they are the most important acts of worships. They argue that they are praying to Allah, fasting to Allah, doing Hajj to Allah. What about the ordinary supplication for different purposes. Are they praying or invoking to Allah alone. No, some of the invoke to Jeelani, Ali, Hassan, Hussain, and the like. Is it not shirk. Our Prophet emphatically explained that the invokings or supplication is a worhsip. (AL DUAHU HUWAL IBADA, AL DUA HUWA MUKKHUL IBADA). Accordig to this saying of the Prophet (S) we are not allowed to invoke to any one other than Allah. This is what Wahhabis presenting infront of Sunnis.
As long as a group of people invoke to the dead other than Allah for their different purposes, how can they call as Sunnis? One third of the Holy Quran explains about this. There are hundreds of inokings mentioned in the Quran which were made by diffent Prophets. No prayer in the Quran shows to other than Allah. Those who violate this , are called sunnis. My Muslim friend think about this, learn Quran with meaning and use your insight, then you will admit the fact that some sunnis are following against Quran and its principle of islam.
Birth day celebration is an inherited practices from other religions like Christians. It is called Bidath.
Where is this coming from, Sunni’s don’t believe the Prophet is among us, and surly do not prey to the dead. Yes, I think about the Prophets(all of them), and the companions of Prophet Muhammad but I do not worship them. These men were very righteously and it is good to try to be like them, as they are surly better Muslims then most. So what does this make me? Am I not a Sunni?
This article is probably written by a Wahabi. I dislike Wahabi’s but we Sunni’s don’t believe the Prophet is “among us” now or that “pious individuals (are used) as intermediaries” between us and Allah- this is SHIRQ. Sunni’s don’t like Wahabi’s because Wahabi’s believe Sunni’s and Shia are kafir.
Wahabi’s should fear Allah and abstain from extremism.
hey who are you?Do you even know what nonsense you are talking??you need to educate yourself on Islam…Don’t let Allah curse you!
Just follow the Al-quran and hadith,first go through it,study the explanations of Al-Quran/tafsir,then hadith.surely Allah will show us the right path.donot fight here who is wahabi,who is this who is that,fighting or commenting or debating here donot make here any different nor we cannot make anyone to change their views.so Go through the basic fundaments of Islam.thats it!!
Assalam u alikum
I am very sad to know that you believe in this way and what you mean by (sunni believe in moderized islam) brother there is no modernism word in islam.why all westren part use the word extremism for muslim because we are strickly b
why Allah said in quran that yahudi and nasara (the believer of moses and jesus) both are not on the right path because they changed Allah’s order by modern world order.
Allah sent prophets from Adam(A.S) to Mohammed(S.A.W) for the guidance of mankind and Allah declared that all prophets are mankind(bashr) not NURI and not from MALAIKA.
you have to read deeply the meaning of Quran and also hadith.
we are muslim and should use (only Quran and hadith) the way which Allah declared by Mohammed (p.b.u.h) for us.
In your opinion
what is the meaning of shirk(polytheism)?
what u mean the word that Mohammed(P.B.U.H) is live still in the world?
There are many Muslims who lost the right path and use the path which is make by themselve which is called bidaati.
If one is a true muslim he will follow the way of Prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon him).
Abdullah Abu aitzaz
mauk_ranzo83@yahoo.com
All are right according to the sayings of prophet muhammad (saw). Islam misunderstood, can be poison.taqlid in islam is forbidden, when a person is taught a madhab, and not quran and sunnah first. It could lead to taqlid, and misunderstanding of islam.
Aslam o alaikum,
May Allah guide you and put you on straight path of truth. How can you think yourself being on straight path while you are spreading lies against other muslim brothers.
´´This is a good topic!!! And i am sure i will get attacks from many.´´
We can understand after reading your comment that why was you SO sure about ´´getting attacks´´. BECAUSE you knew you are telling LIES. And there will be someone out there to prove them as lies. You are so called (by yourself) ´sunni´. Can you even explain what is that? You really should be called sunni? spreading lies wasn´t a sunnah(maázAllah). what sunni are you? Oh yea ,´so called´sunni.
Repent and ask forgivness from Allah.
we should ashamed our self that we see just see Sunni,shia or Wahhabi.
it is my humble request that please try to b true Muslim instead of Sunni,shia and Wahhabi
thanx
What do you mean by we should not fight ,, we should not fight when Islamic structures are erased, we should not raise voice when prophet(sal) is insulted, we should not raise voice when shrins and visitors are bombed. we should not raise voice when planning to demolish madeena going on.
the problem here is Wahhabi think they are 100% in numbers in Sunnis, while they are just 5%, problem never with shias and Sunnis, problems and all problems with Wahhabi vs Muslims.
hahahahaha,,,,,bro we all are muslims
the point is that if some one distracts from his path ,
we should show him right path
Mr Khalil, I don’t know where you get your knowledge from but I think you are Anhwei confused person. As you say The Quran mention about Wahabi, you blatantly lie & for this you get a sin. It is nowhere mentioned such in the Quran, if you have the Ayat then quote, don’t make up things. 2nd thing is the Hadith you mentioned, you have also quoted it wrong. the Hadith goes like this:- a people will come after me, who recite the Quran with such beauty, but it will not go pass there throats (I.E. They will not know the meanings of it). Now you tell me how that Hadith is about the Wahabis? in
My point that applies to 99% of Muslims today. Lots can recite beautifully especially these guys called Qaris, but most don’t know what the message of the Quran is and many use it as a skill to earn money from! So you can’t point your finger at 1 particular group. Also as your point re Wahabi calling others kafir, I’d another silly assumption, every sect today calls the other sect kafir. Why didn’t you read this page & see which sect called the Wahabi Kafir in many posts? And when you say wahabi don’t pray behind other sects, again you jump to assumptions & act as if it’s a wahabi trait and no one else does it. Wake up my friend, the barelvis don’t pray behind deobandis as they believe they are kafir and the groups don’t pray behind others. So don’t pit blame on 1 group without evidence. The main thing is people like you follow what your teachers tell you and you follow them blindly. You don’t check the facts for yourself. The scholars today are misguided and just want to hold on to there seats of power and some of them are zionists slaves in disguise just to cause problems between groups and never will let unity happen. Especially when they tell you to not read behind other groups are in my eyes not worthy of their positions & should be booted out back to Israel. These same scholars will be the ones who stand up from the Muslims & be against Hazrat Imam Mahdi AS when he arrives, they will refuse to believe he is the one & will try & stop the people of the Ummah of Rasool SAW joining Imam Mahdi AS. it’s a known fact this will happen. So wake up & practice your own way, as this is the time to keep your head down and pray to Allah SWT & not argue, be patient for the arrival of Mahdi AS and then UNITY will happen In Sha Allah.
As for your question re Namaaz & certain sects hold hands yo the chest and some above belly button! I have seen these 2 actions but not the 1 below belly button, I think the hands below belly button is a personal bad habit or ignorance of people on how to pray properly due to lack of knowledge. But hands on chest and above belly button are both sound as have been mentioned in numerous Hadith & there is a consensus in this between scholars, you can read either way!
Wasalaam
dear Tasib bhai
i agree with you… unite Islam rather tahn disunite it..
aameen
Salams, firstly I agree with the brother/sister that mentioned we are all muslims, may allah swt reward you for that comment.
Secondly, I condem the rubbish that the first comment spreads about Wahabis believing that Allah swt has body parts (astagfirullah)…what utter rubbish!
Thirdly, you have to ask your self if Muhammad pbuh was alive today would you find him celebrating his own birthday, performing prayers on the graves of so called saints, wearing charms thinking that they will give him some sort of powers, chanting slogans and words over and over agin to gain some sort of higher level of spiritualism….and all the rest?
Stick to the Quran and Sunnah of Muhammad pbuh and you will be guided! Start to use others as intermediates and you will soon find yourself becoming misguided and the day you find out what you did wrong will be a bit too late in the field of Arafat!
Salams (a Muslim;)
can u see the angels performing sajda or angels praising ALLAH.NO!!!!!!!!!!! .But that doesn’t mean angels don’t do sajda or angels don’t praise ALLAH we know that they do.so how can you say such things about nabi (SAW). whatever your name is ‘a muslim’ don’t misguide people you soon to go hell
we are proud to all sunni brother and i also proud to supporter of sunni
o wahabis go to hell
you know my brothers one day the davil asked a question to a wahabi the question is that ‘nabi ki melad pe mje bht gham hua tha aur khush tum b nae hote ho phir tum kaise muslim ho skte ho agr main kafir hun’
geo sunni mro sunni
live sunni die sunni
live long my sunni brothers
Extremely misleading post. The above mentioned doings of Suuni sects are those done by the Barelvis. What about the Deobandi Muslims? What a huge misleading statement in the summary that Wahabi’s are followers of Muhammad Ibn Ul Wahab and sunni’s are followers of Prophet Muhammad(PBUH). They both follow Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) in their own ways.That was just to point out the misleading post. I personally believe that Who ever calls himself a sunni, deobandi, barelvi or wahabi rejects Quranic verses and Disobeys Allah( SWT). If you really believe that you are a Muslim, don’t indulge yourself in sectarianism and try to learn as much about Islam as possible. I’m talking about the Islam in it’s pure form, the one that Prophet Muhammad taught. Please try and enhance your Islamic knowledge before criticizing anyone. And I know if one does manage to to get to the point of having vast knowledge about Islam he will no longer need to criticize anyone, infect he will argument only on the basis of evidence and proof to convince others.
Wslm
my brother in islaam, a jew once told me that if all the muslims in the world stood together, we would be the most powerful nation, all this arguing and fighting is so unnecessary.
Surely Islaam cant be this difficult, sure Allah SWT did not create it so that its a burden, my brothers its so very simple just to follow the Quraan and the sunnah of the Prophet (SAW)
Wslm
YA RASULALLAH!!!!
wahabis com around recently sunnis wer ther since the prophets days
Assalamu-alikum to all brothers
I have one idea that we should preach and convert the nonmuslim to Islam.
Discussing and disputing what is Wahabbis and Sunnis is not gainful if you brothers see other sites like fraud of Dr Zakir Naik there are many Hindus that say Islam is the religion of barking dogs.
And we muslims are contemning and praising each other sects so please get out from this useless
altercating in comments If you don’t believe what am I saying please go to Google than write Dr zakir naik and than go to fraud of Dr Zakir naik and than you will see the blaspheme comments of Hidus and nonmuslim.
Assalamu-alaikum warahma
well that is not a justifying statment ti differ a sunni from wahabi
Selamualeykum we rahmetullahi wa barakatuhu.
I have a questions for all the Wahabi followers, or whatever they follow.
Living in a country like Australia and using social security for living which is the TAX of all citizens of Australia including all kind of religions. You are getting paid from our sweat in this case Muslims that are working 5 to 7 days a week and respect every law of the country. when we meet with you guys you call us kaffirs, and you say that it is Haram to shake hands with Christans or other believers. I wander if it is HARAM fro you not to work and use our money to feed your families?
Selam,