Difference Between Jehovah’s witnesses and Christians
Jehovah’s witnesses vs Christians
Christianity, by definition, is a belief system that reflects the teachings of Jesus Christ which technically qualify Jehovah’s witnesses as Christians since they do follow the teachings of Jesus Christ. However, Jehovah’s witnesses believe in their different version of Christ which brought a lot scrutiny among Christ-centered religions.
Jehovah’s witnesses asserts that they are Christians however, mainstream Christians consider Jehovah’s witnesses as heretics for the latter believes that Jesus Christ and God is not one and the same, a very stark contrast from Christianity’s view of a Trinitarian God ‘” three separate beings as one God.
For Jehovah’s witnesses, there is only one God, and that’s Jehovah; whereas Christians believe in the Holy Trinity of God’s presence ‘“ God as the father, as the son (Jesus Christ), and God as the Holy Spirit. The view of Christians about this Trinitarian God is condemned by Jehovah’s witnesses. For Jehovah’s Witnesses, the Trinity is a satanic dogma of apostate Christianity that prevents people from knowing the true God, Jehovah.
The very apparent disagreement between Jehovah’s witnesses and Christians is their view of Jesus Christ. Similarities in both will end in the belief that Jesus is the son of God and also divine. Yet, JW strongly affirm that Jesus is not God and, though divine, is not equal and always below God. Christ and the Archangel Michael are thought to be one and the same in the belief of Jehovah’s witnesses.
Christians believe in the apocalypse as declared in the book of revelation. Yet, they do not know when it will happen. They just believe that it will and some Christians even believe that it may be happening but no exact date or event has been given as the start of the end of time. Jehovah’s witnesses have a different view of the apocalypse and how it will work out. Probably, the most notable among them is that a date was given. 1914 is supposed to be the year that started it all according to Jehovah’s Witnesses.
Summary:
1. Jehovah’s witnesses believe that God is Jehovah alone while Christianity believes in a Trinitarian God ‘” a God in three separate beings.
2. Jehovah’s witnesses believe that Jesus is God’s (Jehovah) son and completely separate from God; Jesus is also believed to be the archangel Michael. Christianity, on the other hand, asserts that Jesus is the son of God but also God himself as avowed by the Holy Trinity.
3. Jehovah’s witnesses believe that the end of time is now which started happening in a definite time, 1914. While Christianity, though also believe in the end of time, does not know when will that happen, no definite date whatsoever.
4. Jehovah’s witnesses believe in Holy Spirit as God’s active force while Christians think of Holy Spirit as also God himself.
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Where exactly does the phrase “Holy Trinity” appear in the Scriptures. If Jesus is God why are there different words in Hebrew and Greek when referring to Jehovah and Jesus. If Jesus is God how does he sit at the right hand of God Jehovah in the heavens after Jesus’ faithful death and resurrection? If Jesus was God Jehovah on earth, how could his faithfulness be a ransom. Jehovah is infallible and therefore could not have sinned and would not have been an equal ransom to Adam. Only by being a perfect man could it be a ransom.
A triune god is a pagan idea that dates back long before Christianity. Neither Jehovah or Jesus would use anything that was used by pagans to represent the mark of his followers. There are a lot of people that believe in the trinity and in no way are followers of Jesus or what he taught. You might want to review the definition of Christian….
do those who believe in the “Holy Trinity” believe and speak of The Good News? Look only to Jehovah’s Kingdom as the solutions to man’s problems?
I hope people don’t look to this writing as factual it really is just opinion.
btw…love the ad on your page…very modest while explaining how Jehovah’s Witness aren’t Christians.
Jesus is seated at the right hand of God because God the Father has given Him all power. (Romans 8:34 in The Holy Bible)
God the Father is Spirit and He sent His Spirit in
Mary’s womb. Therefore when Jesus was born, He was born in flesh to save the world. When Jesus died, He sent us The Holy Spirit who lives inside of us as His believers and followers. (Romans 8:9 in the Holy Bible) Read more about Jesus in the Synoptic (Matthew, Mark, Luke in The Holy Bible)
This was the best and clearest answer I have ever heard. I have a sister who is a Witness and it is very difficult to have an honest discussion with her on faith. Thank you very much.
How can Jesus Christ be Michael the archangel.Read John 3:15&4:6.Jehovah’s Witnesses don’t understand the Godhead.
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This was the best and clearest answer I have ever heard. I have a sister who is a Witness and it is very difficult to have an honest discussion with her on faith. Thank you very much.
Amen Windy! i believe as you do.
praise the Lord God Almighty for the blessed and Holy gift of His Son Jesus, who died for our sin on a Cross in Calvary. He was buried in a Tomb, Rose from the dead 3 days later. Ascended into Heaven and indeed sit at the right-hand side of God our Father and will one day come and Rapture us to take us to Heaven to live with Him and God the Father as they indeed are ONE, for Eternity!
im jyst waiting for that day! Oh praise the Lord God Almighty for Great things He has done!!!!!
In reading the Bible from front to back several times including a large portion of apocryphal writings I don’t agree with this statement. It is through the father that is was anointed with all His power but Jesus also makes it a point to say, “He the father is greater than I.” Everything that Jesus was and everything regarding His Holiness and divinity is clearly articulated through His Word and Deed and by the Holy Spirit the gospels perfectly address these issues. To fuss over such dogmatic concepts is sad but even almost comical. But we shouldn’t lose sight that the Almighty said to Moses, “I am a jealous God.” And it is very clear that He wants to distinguish that He is the One true maker of all creation. Jesus is the savior of mankind and He sits at the right arm of God, but it only by and through the power and glory and the will of God that He received this honor. However, while Jesus is not the Almighty it is only through His Divine being and the Holy Spirit that persists in the hearts of all true believers that we can even begin to know The Father. So while I would never say that Christ is the Father, I also do not dismiss the Holy Trinity as a form of idolatry. Both Christ and the Holy Spirit reside in harmony as a pure reflection of God’s Will and to accept the Holy Trinity is not to say Christ is the Almighty. Or at least it doesn’t have to be. I think as Christians we have to study scripture and make informed decisions based on our interpretation and not allow our affiliations to determine our beliefs. God calls on us to separate the dark from the light..in doing so he is asking us to discern, for us to rely on the Spirit of Wisdom to establish the truth of the scripture. Many of the books of the Old Testament also address the coming of Christ Isaiah, Daniel, Ezekiel and so forth and they too provide insight into these issues and controversies. For all intensive purposes, Jesus was the perfect embodiment of God and they talk about the Godhead..and yes the Godhead includes Christ as the bridegroom, in other words He is the closest to God of any man and likewise sits at His right arm. So no one here (from what I am seeing) is denying Christ His rightful place as the divine ruler over Mankind. But I do truly believe according to scripture, that there is truly One God and He alone reigns supreme. At the same time, I don’t think it is a big issue because when you are talking holiness and divinity, God bestowed His essence and His Will in Jesus for the benefit of all sinners and He gave Jesus the keys to death. While people are hear fussing over something so trivial, we should all just celebrate in knowing that despite our endless inequities and sinful nature if we live in the Spirit that Christ brought forth into the world then we are doing what is pleasing to God. But God is the source, the Divine Spark, The Almighty and it is only through Him that Jesus accomplished what He did. As human beings, we must realize that we are not entirely equipped to fully understand God’s plan and His Will as we are pretty low on the spiritual food chain so to speak. It is only through Jesus that we can even begin to grasp the extent of God’s Love and His Will for mankind, so I don’t see either of these positions as heretical and I can understand why there are differing opinions, but I can assure you that neither God nor Christ are insecure like typical humans and to worship the Godhead is to worship God, and to worship God is to worship the Godhead, is it not really about unity at the end of the day..it is through spiritual wisdom that we attain unity and to create divisive rhetoric about differences in dogma is the work of Babylon. I would hope most Christians would be so far above this matter and to simply love your Christian brothers even if you have different interpretations of The Word. The Word is not infallible as Catholics would say, not that it wasn’t divinely inspired but it was written by scribes and thus is a joint effort between the Spirit and Man. Look at Jesus’ lineage in the book of Luke and the Book of Matthew. They are two different lineage and so this shows quite clearly that the Bible can be fallible, How could a man born of the flesh have two different ancestral chains? That is proof. Does it make it any less divine? No, because if God wanted to write the Bible Himself he would have, but when he saw all of us creating idols to worship He got angry and smashed His words and said Moses you do it. Why? Because everything in nature follows God’s will according to their kind, but man doesn’t listen to God. This is why the only way to God’s heart is through His son, who He created for the express purpose of saving us all from ourselves. But for that reason we should be careful to question God’s authority over all things, including even His own son. Jesus receives His power by way of the Father, the Father is the source and He would never receive Power thru Jesus or anyone for that matter. But upon drinking the entire cup, Christ was fully edified by The Father to share in the glory of His Father’s creation, and likewise freed man of the second death that would otherwise befall all sinners. So stop bickering over semantical arguments and be glad that God & Jesus Love you enough to bring you that good news!
Jesus said all the Glory and praise belongs to my father for my father is greater then I.
Not all the glory belongs to me because I am grater then myself ?? Ridiculous when I say my father is stronger than myself I am not my father my father is not me my father is my father and I am me it’s like saying that I am my father and my father is me in one person in One that don’t make no sense when Jesus looked up to the heavens and said father please forgive them for they not know what they do was he talking to himself or was he talking to his father if Jesus and Jehovah are the same person who resurrected Jesus from the tomb did he resurrect his own self ridiculous seriously people I think we should all start listening to the Jehovah’s Witnesses because if you folks have not noticed that they are no longer going house to house they just attend to return visits now their Ministry from what it looks like is slowing down a little bit I don’t know people please pay attention let’s look at the facts do you know of any other organization or congregation that translates and prints Bibles in every language that there is known to man I’ve never seen so many bibles in so many different languages they even have a pigeon congregation a Hawaiian congregation ilocano congregation meetings in every language making sure that every ear hears making sure that every language barrier has been met so that everyone gets the good news and get to know our beautiful Creator and he’s awesome son his only begotten son why would the bible say that Jehovah so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son and I don’t need that Jehovah couldn’t be the ransom for us humans come on now he is the almighty the Elsa and the Omega it’s like the president of the United States would he give himself for ransom to be a ransom for the people no they stash them away in some bunker for he can be safe I don’t know if that makes sense but anyway what I’m trying to say is that people please pay attention and just do some research I do have one question people that who had denounced Jehovah and are now worshiping Satan Lucifer when they get thirsty what do you supposed to drink I hope they’re not drinking Jehovah’s water and eating all his wonderful fruits and vegetables and everything that he provides for us and he created for us that will be like wow how can you denounce our creator who created all these beautiful things for us and worship Lucifer who brought us pain death heartache anger lies death why would you want to worship something like that I would rather worship our god Jehovah and his son Jesus Christ who love us so much I mean spring water filtered through Lava the Swedish water you could ever drink soil that is so rich that the bird poops it out it grows a tree the tree will grow. I love you Jehovah Jesus you are an inspiration to all we are living in some hard times right now please forgive us for our shortcomings we fall short because of the times that we are living in now please help us to stay strong and glorified you and Jehovah always
Johovah witnesses are most certainly “christians”.
They follow the teachings of “Jesus Christ”.
Christians, when having asked Jesus to be their Lord and savior after the the Holy Spirit has convicted them. Just emulating Jesus doesn’t make you a Christian. Doing works won’t get you to heaven. You can believe in Jesus’ death but not His resurrection, then you are still dead in your sin.
The tomb was empty. You are no christian.
They Have no relationship with Jesus. They may know a lot about him by reading the Scriptures but they have no personal relationship which John 17:3 says is required for Eternal life. How can you know a person you’re forbade to talk to.They removed his name from the glossary in their Bible. Shameful. you can know and study everything about a person then go knock on their door they will deny knowing you.
read Mathew 7:22 that is the mess they are in repent before you hear his word “I never knew you”
the witnesses are definitely not Christians and deny Christ Jesus of who He Is and Who He Was when walked the earth. He Was God in human likeness and is God. He Is I AM He threw stars into space. The Word became Flesh. I AM was in the beginning And Is GOD. Amen.
This is a very old comment so I suppose you won’t be reading it, but I also refused to believe in the Trinity for 7 years, and I’ve been a student of the Bible for over 40 years.
I did not want church influences to tarnish my understanding of Gods word to us, but to detach myself as much as possible from man’s teaching that is not clearly and convincingly taught in the Bible. I discarded the Trinity for that very reason. But I didn’t have an alternate teaching. I just put that into suspension for 7 years until God showed me the truth. I eventually came to believe in the Trinity, or something like it, strictly through his word. Sure, there is mystery about the Trinity. There always will be for me in this life. But the central issue was “who is Jesus?” He sure isn’t Michael the Archangel. That one never made it to the table. But he is of God. He is a part of God. There is no longer any question about that. It would take a month to share how I got there, but it was through the careful and prayerful study of the scriptures alone.
Praise God for your salvation. I have recently received a knock on the door from a lovely JW. I told her I’m a born again Christian and the bible says who is not against us (Christians/ followers of Jesus) is for us (Luke 9,50) so I’ve invited her to chat some more and will let God the Father Jesus and the Holy Spirit do His (as the only one true God) work in revealing truth. The bible also says you will know the truth and the truth will set you free (John 8,32). I’m so happy for all those that find the freedom that cannot be fully explained but is real and needs to be shared with others.
Greetings Buck there is a scripture where Jesus says “do not now down to me for my God is a jealous God”. What do you or anyone else say to that?
I wish you would share your findings with me. I’m interested to know. I know this post was made a long time ago but I will take my chances in the hope you would get back to me.
Galatians 4:6 Because you are his sons, God sent the Spirit of his Son into our hearts, the Spirit who calls out, “Abba, Father.”
John 3:16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
John 10:36 what about the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent into the world? Why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said, ‘I am God’s Son’?
John 10:14 Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
James 2:19 You believe that there is one God. Good! Even the demons believe that—and shudder
Whoever wrote this, U R a beacon of light & truth. The quotation from the Epistle of James is especially pertinent.
There is more than one (1)GOD Jesus Christ is his Son he wasn’t born on the 25th of December.
The first commandment tells you that there are more then one God otherwise that wouldn’t be the first commandment!!!
God made Adam and Eve they had Sons Caine , Abel and Seth . Caine was banished had children with his wife , where did she come from ?
Caine Son is Enoch a different race
A different breed , a different GOD
GOD order the destruction of the Canaanite’s instead they united which caused the downward spiral.
Maybe we are not just 1 GODS children . 4 different races
Mongoloids,australoids,Negroloids, Caucasianloids
That’s why there’s so many religions
Or (1) GOD with a plan that’s bigger then what we think . He has all of us covered regardless it’s our opinions that keep us separated. Over all if we love GOD then we all love him his plan is something so amazing that most people don’t see it because they are only focused upon there own beliefs and not the source.
G O D ❤️
Jesus on earth, used things of this earth to explained heavenly things. Water which is liquid when frozen is ice block,when heated becomes vapor. The same water is used for different things at different form.God came on this earth as human JESUS and came to stay with us as the Holy Spirit
Amen! Thomas said to Jesus, Lord, we don’t know where you are going, so how can we know the way? Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. If you really know me, you will know my Father as well. From now on, you do know him and have seen him. Philip said, Lord, show us the Father and that will be enough for us.Jesus answered:Don’t you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? Don’t you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me? The words I say to you I do not speak on my own authority. Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work. John 14:5-10. The answer was given to Philip, Jesus is God our Father.
Can the Almighty God die?
If God did die who raised him from the dead? Jesus prayed on many occasions, who was he praying to. Jesus himself said at John 14:28 The Father is GREATER than I am. Was Jesus lying when he said those words?. After his resurrection Jesus said at John 20:17 Jesus said: “I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and Your God.” Who is Jesus Father? And his God? Hebrews 5:7 says that during his life in earth, Christ offered up supplications and petitions, with strong outcries and tears to the One who was able to save him out of death.” If Jesus is God himself who did he offer up supplications to? Himself? or someone higher than him who was able to save him from death? Does the Almighty God need a saviour? Who could the Almighty God pray to? If Jesus himself and out of his own mouth says he is God’s Son, not God the son, how is it that the churches teach that he is God? Who is lying here, Jesus or the church? You decide!!
I agree. Conundrum is that we are all a part of God. My apologies and question is why we are all killing people in the name of God. Makes no sense
John 1:1. Jesus is the Word,(Logos).
He has always been with God and is God.
No matter who you are or religious or political beliefs, personal and social habits happen to be, read,” You must know this man Muhammad “. It flipped my wig.. I am a apostolic believer and this was a must read.
Can I talk to you please
Praise God for clarity! I’m happy to hear the WORD got you here. Sometimes you have to just read with a total dependence on The Holy Spirit to usher in understanding ❤️
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How do others interpret. John 14:6
You are going to hell.
I believe that Jesus is God because that’s who the Bible says He is. I believe it because that’s who HE SAYS HE IS. I don’t know what Bible you’re reading because He says it A LOT. Read John:14.
As far as where in the Bible the trinity is mentioned you can take your pick. OT would be Genesis 1:26. NT John 15:26. Or 2nd Corinthians 13:14. God refers to Himself as “We” and “our” all throughout the Bible. Nothing “pagan” about it.
A Christian is defined in the dictionary as one who professes to believe in the teachings of Jesus Christ. So, a Jehovah’s witness CANNOT be a Christian for the very simple fact that they don’t follow His teaching and don’t believe He is Lord. You have to basically deny that the NT is true, deny the Gospel, in order to claim to be a Jehovah’s witness. I don’t understand why they want to be called Christian because of that fact.
Hey Jake, JW are absolutely and positively true Christians. They believe in, and follow the teachings of Jesus Christ. Period.
I don’t recall Jesus ever claiming to be God the Father, he said “if you have seen me you have seen the Father”, just as if you see me you see the virtue that my dad raised me to have, I am a reflection of my dad. Just as in those days the first born son had the authority of the father in his absence. Jesus was accused of claiming to be God by the the “righteous” religious leaders of the day and I don’t recall them ever being in the right.
There are 3 who bear witness in heaven and these three are one….Old testament ” there is no savior beside me, I know of none. John 1.1 in the beginning was yhe word and the word was with God and the word was God..
JW followers , it does not take much to see why Jesus Christ was crucified.
John 10:33” The Jews answered him, “ It is not for a good work that we are going to stone you but for blasphemy, because you, being a man make yourself God”
Jesus clearly made the claim he was God in human flesh and blood , and for that claim he was sentenced to death on a cross. You can do your doctrinal gymnastics as much as you try but this truth is clear. Either Jesus was who he claimed to be or he was the greatest deceiver of all time.
I am well aware of how JW have mis translated scripture as pointed out by the greatest Hebrew and Greek scholars of the past number of decades. You have a false gospel and a translation that is not true to biblical interpretation.
I personally have talked to many JW and they all do the same thing when you point them to a passage of scripture in context and they immediately take you to their particular scriptures and take them completely out of context. It would be to many here to number all the false teaching of JW , doctrine , but your denial of who Jesus really is , the Son of the living God , creator of heaven and earth, Lord and God over all. That is what stands between heaven and hell for all men and women.
Revelations 22:18-19 18 ¶ I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book,
19 and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book.”
That you have done JW’s
And Elohim said Let us make man in our image. The Hebrew clearly indicates the word Elohim to be more than plural, but triune. It is in the very first chapter of the very first book of the bible, right before your eyes. Indeed, the trinity is clearly shown here. How is it that one attempts to contemplate the greatness of our God? Is Yahweh human? No, alien by definition. “And in Christ dwelt all the fullness of the Godhead bodily. The heresy here, is believing the true Son of Almighty God to be of equality of one of His very own creations, an Angel. Where in the scriptures does it say that the Christ is the archangel Michael? One God, who loved us enough to wrap Himself in sinful flesh to take upon Himself the penalty of Our sins, that we do not have to pay for them. What an Awesome Lord God Almighty Christ we serve!
You are correct. All anyone with a brain cell need do is read Jesus, own words in the Book of John.
He himself states over and over that the ” Father is greater than I” and that I can do nothing of my own except thru my father who sent me”
Over and over he states this. Chrust and God are 2 distinct beings. He is God’s first creation.
Argue with Jesus…not us.
Jesus was not created he was begotten
Jesus calling the Father greater (meizon) in John 14:28 is quantitative not qualitative. It means the Father is greater in rank. It does not make Jesus any less God by nature.
Jesus calls the Father greater because the Father was in heaven (from where Jesus came down from to take the position of a servant as described in the prologue of John).
If you look at Jesus using the same Greek word for greater in the same context just a few verses before, you will see what Jesus did not mean.
Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever believes in me will also do the works that I do; and greater works than these will he do, because I am going to the Father.” – John 14:11.
If we use your method of interpretation, Jesus must meant the disciples will do better quality works. In reality, Jesus meant preaching the gospel to other nations as Jesus’ ministry was limited to Galilee & the surrounding areas.
Jesus didn’t say you should be happy because I am merely a creature and the father can do more than me. He was saying if you love me you’d be happy that I am returning in the glory I had alongside the Father before. Why do you want me to remain in this state or humiliation? Is what he is saying. Notice it started with *if you loved ME*. It’s not about describing the Father as God only and calling himself a creature.
But you have more to explain and still in the same context…
Jesus said whatever you ask in my name, this I will do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. 14If you ask mee anything in my name, I will do it. Jesus didn’t say if you ask me, and the Father will do it. He said ask ME, and I WILL DO.
You ignore verses like this that proves Jesus’ deity. The fact that Jesus knows all who prays to him, and what they are praying, Jesus has to be omicscient. Not only that, in order to fullfill all those prayers, he has to be omnipotent. Jesus also has to be omnipresent since he says he will come unto every believer along with the father and make “our” home with him. So now you have 2 gods that are omniscient, omnipotent, and omnipresent.
That’s some creature…
I married a woman she is my best friend and as far as I’m concerned the closest thing to a soulmate that a person can get. When she introduced me to her deceased ex-husbands parents the grandfather of my stepchildren, I immediately had a very weary feeling like a new heightened awareness. I told Stacy you know being that I just met her I didn’t want to start mouthing off too much but I said that there’s something wrong with her as far as she’s up to something I can feel it. So a couple years went by and in every turn this woman had to justify that I was always talking about God and God this God that and Jesus this Jesus that well if you’re a Christian you’re very proud of Jesus I mean who dies on a cross for you everyday? And she says Michael every time we have an argument you always question my christianity, I said because you do not do the things that Christians do you’re a habitual liar you did a scam with my daughter behind our backs to get scholarship money from a Christian School here in Oregon which is the one of the most expensive Christian schools in the nation, so when these people don’t believe in Jesus but they send my daughter to a trinitarian school don’t you think something’s a little up? Turns out my daughter is 125,000 in debt because of her grandmother, and the funny thing was is that she pulled her daughter out of school after one semester we couldn’t figure out why and because you’re probably thinking why are the kids staying with Grandma because grandma was having a hard time we thought with her son’s death and her husband was working so much I thought the kids could benefit and heal with Grandma then come back home after a while. Because my wife stopped going to their meetings and start attending a Christian church with me she was shunned and I think I could count on one hand how many times we talked to our children in 8 years. My wife’s kids have literally written her off, turns out things like because of her son’s death and we could not figure this out, I was starting to investigate a little bit, it turns out that numerous times the doctors were trying to get a pacemaker put in this guy and numerous times she told the doctors that hurt 36 year old son didn’t need that pacemaker that they couldn’t afford it.. her son died a month later. Bottom line she kept our children from us, we couldn’t figure out what was going on she was not telling our children that we were trying to get a hold of them and she told our children that we abandoned them. So Christmas time which they’re not supposed to celebrate she buys me a holy Bible with praying hands in my name on the front she didn’t get me a new world translation like they read why because she knows I know the Bible like the back of my hand and that I would go what is going on here. She did the same thing to my wife and to both her kids to try to if it ever came up that they wouldn’t question her will grandma got me a Bible you know. She got you a Bible that has been totally altered by a human being that had a publishing outfit and altered what he thinks it should have said took the words of Jesus Christ out and people like that are stupid enough to buy that book and call the word of God. Before I came here she told my wife stay out of the Old testament well that’s where God’s laws are, and she said only read Matthew Mark Luke and John but don’t read anything in red it’s a lie, now what Christian would say that Jesus is a liar? So you guys can build your own assumptions but I know this woman’s a joke was witness I asked her husband about it he said what’s it to you. Well you have my kids living with you I think it’s probably my business you smart ass. These people we have found out have molested our children we are building a case of legal action I started looking online and just scrolling for miles about Jehovah’s witness’s secret database of child molesters and they paired this 8 year old little boy or girl up with this person to go door to door the person took them back to their house and molested them 13.5 million dollars later and then they go ahead and put him back in the church right where he was before. I won’t need to say if that was my child what would have happened. So bottom line they celebrate birthdays Christmas Thanksgiving they fly flag in their front yard with this big cement pad like totally obvious nobody within a hundred mile radius has anything like this in the front yard but they got you go ahead and disguise themselves and act like they’re American citizens when they don’t shouldn’t even own a flag they don’t sing the national anthem they don’t do anything for our government but you know they do tax evasion tax fraud steal from our scholarship fund take advantage of an epileptic learning disability mother that got set up by the whole family, the Sun lives off my wife for 10 years never had a job sat around and played video games drank beer and got high and had girls over and was having sex behind his wife’s back and the kids never spoke up once. Come to find out one of them was my wife’s twin sister who was having an affair with her husband and acting pretty much as her over here while she was at work with her kids and her husband when she got home the twin sister would leave. I guess the fun is over right? So I had had a few words with the grandfather who by the way taught my son how to masturbate, and he told my wife basically because they have the loan of the house that we are buying through them for their son and my wife who’s now with of course, so I said a few things about the religion he threatens to sell the house to get rid of me. They break every single rule and these rules are a mile long and some things I can’t even believe like they’re not allowed to eat chocolate pudding watch the super bowl watch boxing but he’s a WWF fanatic. So basically with the pacemaker I think it’s the same as a blood transfusion the mom denied treatment for her son and he died a month later 36 years old. Didn’t God say for the Love of money is the root of all evil who would literally bypass getting their son medical treatment knowing that he would be alive today but you stick to some Charles Russell who made up his own rules I think that came out of what 1981 which was a presbyterian, yeah these rules God didn’t say this Jesus didn’t Charles Russell so why would you guys buy a book that’s been altered for one all these rules I mean bedroom rules it’s nobody’s business but when the workers stay at their house and they kick their son out of his room and let the workers stay there so she can keep an eye on everybody she goes and reports back to the elders and then I guess you get the chance of being disfellowship because your house rules weather up to part it’s a satisfy them. I’m going to say I know 100% it’s a cult they are absolutely controlling and if you choose to make a different choice in your life and not follow them and just go a different way well you’re dead now to me your shunned and I’m going to make sure your kids don’t have another thing to do with you I’m sure glad my boss doesn’t say hey Michael you missed the safety meeting I’m going to take your kids from you. One last thing I know the Bible pretty well I’v read the whole Bible through and the things that this woman is told my wife over the years is absolutely misleading deceptive and just play chronic habitual lying and it’s all about Jesus they don’t believe in hell they believe that the good works that she’s doing she’ll be just fine and get to this three level Paradise she’s talking about, she thinks that she can still lie cheat on her husband of 50 years steal from our educational system, so all the rules the mile long list of rules that they’re supposed to go by I promise you I have witnessed 95% of them being broken by this family. But see what it is is she breaks the rules to accommodate style and if it works for her well she’ll it makes me sick to my stomach that you’re playing with God like that calling him a liar telling his people that you don’t need to listen to him that I am the authority she thinks that she is their government she thinks she’s the president she literally told this to my wife that she is God she is going to have The Mercy seat that’s what she told my wife that her God told her that she has the authority in the rights to have the emergency so she’s going to be the one to judge 7.5 billion people when she’s never met one of them on whether they go to heaven or hell but I thought you didn’t believe in hell? I’m tired I remember the first meeting that I was going to go and I thought it was church so I was going to of course be supportive of my wife and see what her beliefs are I get to the parking lot we get out of the car here comes this older lady and I promise you she has 25 questions in 25 steps. What did you do today did you work today where did you go to lunch how much did you spend who are you with, so after time passes in this meeting I saw the stand up and professing and I said so what did you after your profess what what does that do. Nobody answered me four different people I asked nobody answered anything. I said so these elders you guys are talking about I have to go to them and ask them if I’m developed enough and ready to go and ask God if I can be having him in my life if I can ask if he can be my God. I told them flat out right then why do I need all your guys’s approval to go be with my god I’ve already got one I’m not one relationship with God and I shouldn’t have to ask anybody that’s how much control they have over there so called slaves or whatever they are they don’t call them servants of God they’re slaves and it’s congregation not church. So lesson but not least I’ve got I mean I can go for days, she told my wife absolutely stay out of the book of Revelation stay out of the book of The book of Revelation of Jesus Christ foretold? That talks about the Antichrist comes first, well it was that she was trying to deceive my wife into not knowing when the Antichrist comes because whoever doesn’t know is going to be deceived and they’re going to go serve him like a third of the angel. well I’ve never had a Christian in my lifetime tell me that there’s parts of the Bible you should read and firstly you shouldn’t stay away from this he’s a liar in that part. So you guys go ahead and build your own assumptions man from what I said I know who’s who and I know that I’m okay and on my way because of my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and the faith that I have had in him and the acceptance that I’ve had for the finish work on that cross that I am proud of praise God. My dad is a prisoner of world war II I have two absolute warrior heroes in my life what is Jesus Christ the others my dad. 15 months in a German prisoner camp in the liberation of DACAU. MY MOM WITH HER MOM AND DAD SO I KNOW THAT MY MOM AND DAD WERE PLAYING FOLKS MY DAD SAID HE READ THE BIBLE TWICE OVER IN 15 MONTHS AND THAT GERMAN PRISONER CAMP WHILE HE WAS STARVING TO DEATH, NOW IF MY DAD BELIEVES ON IT IT’S NOT JUST BECAUSE OF HIM BUT I BELIEVE ON IT BECAUSE MY JESUS HAS SPOKEN TO ME AND SAVED MY LIFE TWICE ONE FALLING THROUGH A FIVE STORY BUILDING COMING WITHIN THREE INCHES OF BEING GROUNDED DEATH IN A PAPER SHREDDER. I’VE HAD 28 SURGERIES AND I’M STILL HERE TODAY BECAUSE OF ONE SOURCE MY SAVIOR. AND I’VE HAD TOO MANY THINGS HAPPEN TO ME THAT NO HUMAN BEING COULD EVER PULL OFF AND I KNOW IT WAS GOD $8,000%. BE CAREFUL OUT THERE BECAUSE THEY’RE TELLING US THAT THEY’RE THE ONES THAT ARE GOING TO THIS PARADISE THREE LEVEL PARADISE IN THE WHOLE OTHER WHATEVER 7.3 BILLION PEOPLE ARE RUN BY SATAN AND WE’RE ALL A BAD INFLUENCE AND A BAD ASSOCIATION. THE FUNNY AND THE BAD THING ABOUT IT IS IS OUR KIDS ARE ACTUALLY BRAINWASHED ENOUGH FROM THESE FOLKS TO BELIEVE IT. THEY SHOULD NEVER HAVE DONE THIS WITHOUT CHILDREN WHAT I WAS TOLD WAS THEY WERE DOING IT FROM THE AGE 3 4 5 YEARS OLD THEY SHOULD NEVER DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO SOMEBODY ELSE’S CHILDREN I MEAN LET THEM GET TO BE OLD ENOUGH WHERE THEY CAN MAKE THEIR OWN DECISIONS ON WHAT KIND OF RELIGIOUS DECISION THEY WANT TO MAKE WITH THEIR MOM AND DAD NOT THE GRANDMA AND GRANDPA. THIS WOMAN IS A VERY SICK INDIVIDUAL AND IT’S ALL ABSOLUTELY SATANIC IT’S DEMONIC AND IT’S EVIDENT, I DON’T JUST GO JUDGE PEOPLE THIS WOMAN IT ALL PLAYED OUT RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME AND SHE IS ABSOLUTELY THE MOST SINISTER PERSON I’VE EVER MET IN MY ENTIRE LIFE WHEN SHE LOOKS LIKE A NICE GRANDMA THEY GOT A BEAUTIFUL HOME LOOKS LIKE THEY GOT THEIR ACT TOGETHER WELL THAT’S ONLY TEMPORARY TRUST ME. I’VE GOT TO SAY ONE MORE THING MY WIFE’S TWIN SISTER BECAUSE SHE WAS MOLESTED AT SUCH A YOUNG AGE THE ADOPTED PARENTS LITERALLY TURNED HER INTO A PROSTITUTE AND HUMAN TRAFFIC THIS POOR GIRL AND IT’S HAPPENED TILL THIS DAY SHE’S 45 YEARS OLD, SHE’S A HEROIN ADDICT AND A PROSTITUTE. IT’S WEIRD THE GRANDMA AND GRANDPA SHE HANGS OUT WITH THEM ALL THE TIME OH THAT’S RIGHT YOU WERE HAVING AN AFFAIR WITH THEIR SON AGAINST YOUR TWIN SISTER. ARE CHRISTIANS SUPPOSED TO HANG OUT WITH PROSTITUTES AND HEROIN ADDICTS EVERYDAY AND TURN ON THEIR DAUGHTER-IN-LAW AND TELL HER I WISH YOU WERE NOT THE MOTHER OF MY GRANDCHILDREN. SHE’S LITERALLY TRIED TO SCRUB THE MULATTO COLOR OFF OF OUR KIDS WITH A WASHCLOTH BECAUSE SHE DOES NOT LIKE BLACK PEOPLE. I’VE NEVER MET A RACIST CHRISTIAN. AS A MATTER OF FACT I’M CAUCASIAN AND WHERE I STARTED TO GO TO CHURCH WAS COMPLETELY ALL BLACK CHURCH AND I FIT IN ABSOLUTELY PERFECTLY I BECAME THEIR DRUMMER IN THERE PRAISING WORSHIP GROUP MY BEST FRIEND I’VE EVER HAD WHICH IS NOW A DECEASED HE WAS A CORRECTIONAL OFFICER AT OREGON STATE PENITENTIARY AND HE SHOWED LOVE AND KINDNESS THAT I’VE NEVER SEEN FROM MY OWN FAMILY. SO LAST THING GUYS I PROMISE, SO WHILE MY DAUGHTER IS STAYING WITH GRANDMA AND GRANDPA SHE GOES ON A DATE WITH SOME GUY FROM HIGH SCHOOL THAT SURPRISED MATERIAL IN WHICH THEY’RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE DATING OUTSIDE THEIR CONGREGATION, NEXT THING WE KNOW THEY’RE MARRIED SHE HAD SET UP A MARRIAGE BEHIND OUR BACK THAT WE DID NOT ATTEND OR HIS PARENTS, AND SHE’S MOVING TO SAN DIEGO SHE’S A MARINE SPOUSE NOW WE KNEW NOTHING ABOUT IT HEY THANKS WE APPRECIATE THAT. $5,000 WEDDING DRESS WELL WE’RE THE MONEY COME FROM MUST BE THE SCHOLARSHIP FUND YOU GUYS EMBEZZLED. THAT’S MY FUCKING BABY MY DAUGHTER COMES TO MY WIFE AND SAYS MOM I’M SO PROUD I SAVED MONEY LIKE YOU AND MICHAEL AND I BOUGHT MY OWN CAR $8,500 CASH SHE’S NEVER HAD A JOB I WORK LIKE YOU SHE SAYS. NEXT THING WE STARTED INVESTIGATING MORE SHE SPENT $5,000 ON THE WEDDING DRESS THAT WE WERE NOT EVEN INVITED TO THE WEDDING THERE WAS THREE TIMES TOO BIG. THE GRANDMA TOLD ME THAT HIS PARENTS WERE METHAMPHETAMINE DEALERS,WELL TIME GOES ON WE MEET THE PARENTS THEY OWN THEIR OWN HOTEL THEY ARE VERY GOOD FOLKS SO WE SPREAD THE GOOD NEWS YOU KNOW LOL. THEY OWN THEIR OWN HOUSE WITH A SWIMMING POOL NICE NICE FOLKS SO YOU KNOW I’VE NEVER MET A MORE THAN MANIPULATIVE OVERPOWERING THINKING SHE’S IN CHARGE INSANE PERSON IN MY ENTIRE LIFE AND IT’S FUNNY CUZ EVERYBODY IN THEIR CONGREGATION HAS THEIR SAME OWN WEIRDNESS ABOUT THEM THAT I’VE NEVER SEEN IN ANY KIND OF A CHURCH GROUP OR MENTAL INSTITUTION GROUP FOR THAT MATTER. SO LAST BUT NOT LEAST MY WIFE WAS ADOPTED AT 2 YEARS OLD COME TO FIND OUT HER PARENTS WERE JEHOVAH’S WITNESSES THEY EMBEZZLED ALL HER SOCIAL SECURITY MONEY AND HER SISTER SINCE THEY WERE 2 YEARS OLD, LIKE I SAID SET THE SISTER INTO PROSTITUTION HAD HER SLEEPING WITH THE ADOPTEES FATHER THE BIRTH THE GIRLS’ GRANDFATHER, SHE TRIED TO LITERALLY MURDER MY WIFE WHEN SHE WAS 7 YEARS OLD SHE TOOK SOME CHANGE OUT OF HER MOM’S PURSE THE WOMAN PUT OBSIDIAN ROCKS IN HER PURSE AND BASTARD OVER THE HEAD TILL SHE WAS UNCONSCIOUS. THE DOCTOR OF COURSE WE DON’T WANT TO FIND OUT LITERALLY ABUSING OR ADOPTED CHILDREN. TURNS OUT SHE’S A RACIST NAZI SWASTIKA SUPPORTING MONSTER AND SHE ADOPTED TO MY LITTLE BLACK GIRLS FOR THE SOUL SAKE OF STEALING THEIR SOCIAL SECURITY AND SINCE MY WIFE WOULDN’T PROSTITUTE THAT SHE PUT HER INTO HARD LABOR AT 8 YEARS OLD. THEN SHE CALLED HER RETARDED DO I NEED TO SAY ANYMORE ABOUT JEHOVAH’S WITNESSES PROBABLY NOT SO YOU KNOW WHAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING AND ALL THIS GARBAGE ABOUT JEHOVAH’S WITNESSES AND THEM BEING THIS AND THAT THERE’S THIS AND THAT BUT YOU KNOW WHAT THEY ARE NOTHING GOOD WHATSOEVER THEY’RE NOT GODLY AND THEY’RE NOT LOVING PEOPLE WHATSOEVER AND I’VE SEEN IT FIRST HAND RACIST PEDOPHILE CHILD MOLESTERS IS WHAT I SEE NAZI DEMONIC WHITE SUPREMACIST AND I’M NOT SAYING THEY’RE ALL LIKE THAT I’M NOT AT ALL, BUT THE PEOPLE I’VE MET 100% AT LEAST 100 PEOPLE THAT I’VE MET, THEY ALL HAVE ONE THING IN COMMON THEIR CHILD MOLESTERS THEIR DECEIVERS AND THEIR MANIPULATORS. AND IF YOU SAY ANYTHING ABOUT BEING A CULT THEY FLIP OUT THEY WAGE WAR AGAINST YOU AND MY POOR WIFE SHE IS SUCH A BEAUTIFUL SOUL SHE’S WITHOUT HER KIDS NOW THERE’S REALLY NOTHING WE CAN DO THEY’RE 19 AND 21 HER MOM AND DAD HER TWIN SISTER HAVE ALL SHUNNED HER. Then when my wife is 18 they abandoned her didn’t help her get her social security so she can sustain you know having a place of her own set your end to being homeless you know because she’s no good to them anymore and they shunned her told the twin sister and she comes to your house you turn her away what she did wouldn’t even give her own sister a place off the street for the night but she was having John’s over there left and right. You know what if you don’t believe in hell believe he’ll believes in you I wouldn’t be deceived. You’re going one of two places and that’s what I firmly believe and I just want to give thanks to God and for having a plan to send his son to that cross for paying the price for my consequences that I wouldn’t have to perish but I would have everlasting life. Have a good day be blessed y’all sorry about the long comment but you’re lucky I didn’t go on for like a month is that so much I have on them.
So I’ve been speaking with my cousin who is now a Jehovah witness. This is how she explained it to me which makes total since. Clear words
1John 5:7 states, “For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one” Also read Phil. 2:5-11. If you are objectively looking for the truth about the deity of Jesus Christ, then please read these scriptures and ask God for the grace to understand them.
The belief that Jesus is Michael the archangel is also a “conclusion” and not proof or factual.
Galatians 1:6-10. If any man preach any other gospel to you than that you have received, let him be accursed.(Paul the Apostle)
Well put and true.
I believe that God has three parts God the father Jesus as God and the holy sprit as God. If Jehovah is the only God then that nullifies Jesus dying for our sins because Jesus would then become a false God.
Bonnie, where in the scriptures is the name “Jehovah”? Or, the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society? Most of what JW are is not mentioned in the Bible.
In fact, Rev. 22:19 warns against adding words or taking a word from scriptures yet ever version of the NWT does exactly that.
As for paganism…bridesmaids, honeymoons, wedding rings, using the calendars months and the names of every day of the week!
Why don’t you already know this Bonnie?
JW are not wise, they are forbidden self-knowledge.
JW worship a publishing company. Period.
Of 150 songs written in the Bible, JW songbooks have used none. JW sing songs composed from ‘worldly’ artists.
Study, understand and apply the mind GOD gave you Bonnie and please remember you are loved.
Go READ the Bible, not the gray looking book the new translation.
ALL OF YOU FAKE PEOPLE NEED JESUS IN YOUR LIFE HURRY NOT MUCH TIME LEFT HES COMING SOON. MOST OF YOU BLASPHEMY AGANIST HIM THE DOORS OF HELL AR READY FOR YOU ALL.
What is impossible for God? Can God become man ? Did he come as Jesus?
Two this that happened to Jesus makes him different from all mankind.
1) His virgin birth – Proof of pre-existance before birth, not created.
2) His resurrection from the dead – Proof of life after death – ever living.
3) He was not born sinner, lived a sinner nor died a sinner. Perfect in conduct.
Do you know of any creation past, present and future including angels that are able to do this two things.
The above is the only proof of life before and after death. There is no other proof in any other religion.
The believe in the birth, death and resurrection of Jesus is what makes you a christian by faith.
Following his teachings makes you a christian by action.
Living your faith by your actions to the point of death is the life of a christian.
Does it matter if God is unity, trinity, Allah, Brahman, Zeus, or any other name? No you can neither define nor contain the nature of God within the limited minds of man.
Why then dispute, divide and destroy. These are the works of Satan, confusing man since the garden of Eden.
Ignore the inaccuracies of biblical histories, traditions, culture, translations, etc.
Your God given purpose in Life is the LOVE ONE ANOTHER – till death on the Cross if need be.
Its not about them or dominance of societies called Christians, Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, etc.
Its about YOU as an individual and how YOU interact with others that reflects your faith in God.
Christianity holds the largest amount of wealth – 55% of the world wealth followed by Muslims 5.8%, Hindus 3.3%, Jews 1.1% and others 34.8%.
And we know Judas betrayed Jesus for a mere 30 silver coins.
Has Christianity betrayed Jesus? Look at the rich huge empty churches and the poor crowded slums….where would Jesus be?
What are we arguing about again????
A JW posted the above.
A Better Insight:
The Jehovah’s Witness religion was invented by a man named Charles Taz Russell who believed he could date the end times by studying the archeology or design of the Egyptian pyramids.
They believe in a 2 class group of people (“The Anointed” or “The John Class” AND “The Other Sheep”) as a classification to your everlasting life.
They use a religious based magazine called The Watchtower and other WBTS publications as much or more than the actual bible.
When the use The Bible they typically use a version called the New World Translation.
The New World Translation Was translated by Jehovah’s Witnesses for Jehovah’s Witnesses.
Neither the book itself nor the WBTS (The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society is what you would call the corporate office for Jehovah’s Witnesses) will make public reference as to who the translators were or if they were even qualified to make the translation in the first place.
I have lots more and I am sure about this religion and others I have studied and I now consider myself Agnostic. And yes, I am a former JW.
When you finally discover and understand why you don’t believe in the gods of other religions you will understand why I don’t believe in yours.
You are a pagan, i guarantee that you were never a JW. Firsty, you were never baptized if you think there is any truth to the false/ignorant comments that you have made. The article had some incorrect points and you are COMPLETELY LOST AND INCORRECT AS FOR YOU COMMENTS ON JW’s using the Watchtower/Awake magazines as some replacement to the Bible. THE BIBLE WAS AUTHORED BY JESUS’ DECIPLES AND INSPIRED BY JEHOVAH GOD THROUGH HIS ACTIVE HOLY SPIRIT, WHICH IS IN NO WAY PART OF A “TRINITY” WHICH IS ONLY MENTIONED IN FALSE/FAKE BIBLES, INSPIRED BY “DOCTORS”, “SCHOLARS”, AND OTHER PAGAN MEN AND IS DONE SO TO DO THE DEVILS WORK AND CONFUSE THE MASSES AS YOU ARE ATTEMPTING TO DO…
The bottom line is: PRAY TO JEHOVAH (GOD) OR WHATEVER YOU CHOOSE TO CALL HIM, B/C I GUESS YOU THINK JEHOVAH IS NOT A REAL NAME AS WELL, AND ASK HIM TO HELP GUIDE YOUR HEART AND MIND AND TO LEAD YOU TO THE TRUTH AND HELP YOU TO MAKE THE RIGHT CHOICE, ASK HIM TO HELP YOU DEVELOP A RELATIONSHIP W/ HIM, AS ANYONES BIBLE SAYS AND HE PROMISES TO DO THE REST AS LONG AS YOU ARE GENUINELY SEEKING THE “TRUTH” W/ NO BIAS AND AN OPEN HEART…
DO WHAT YOU WILL BUT IF YOU HAVE LOVE FOR YOUR FELLOW MAN, DO NOT TRY TO MISGUIDE OTHERS B/C THEIR BLOOD WILL BE ON YOUR HANDS (INCLUDING YOU MOTHER, FATHER, WIFE, CHILDREN, FRIENDS, ETC.) JEHOVAH MAKES NO MISTAKE THAT THIS EARTH WAS CREATED TO PROVIDE A PERFECT EARTH WHERE PEOPLE ARE TO LIVE 4 EVER WITHOUT SATAN AND THE BAD INFLUENCES OF THE WORLD, THUS PERFECT: WITHOUT SICKNESS, DEATH, PAIN, ETC. HE ALSO MAKES CLEAR THAT THERE IS DEFINITELY A FINE LINE WHEN IT COMES TO WHAT SIDE YOU CHOOSE: YOU ARE EITHER ON HIS SIDE OR SATANS SIDE, PERIOD, POINT BLANK AND THEIR IS NO WIGGLE ROOM!!!
WHEN THE TIME COMES, AND NOBODY KNOWS WHEN OR HOW, ONLY THAT IT WON’T BE FROM 4O DAYS AND 40 NIGHTS OF RAIN, EVERYONE WHO HAS NOT CHOSEN TO TAKE HEAD AND “GET ON THE ARC, IF YOU WILL” WILL ASSUME THE SAME FATE AS THOSE WHO CHOSE TO INGORE NOAH…ie, THOSE WHO ARE SO UPSET ABOUT THE WITNESSES DOING JEHOVAH’S WILL AND KNOCKING ON YOUR DOOR…BECOME EDUCATED, 100% OF JESUS’ TIME WAS SPENT GOING DOOR TO DOOR, VILLAGE TO VILLAGE, TOWN TO TOWN AND PREACHING THE GOOD NEWS (TRUTH) ABOUT HIS FATHER JEHOVAH AND HIS KINGDOM…
MY HEART GOES OUT TO THOSE OF YOU WHO WERE RAISED TO BE SO IGNORANT AND HATEFUL AND PRAY SOMEONE YOU CARE ABOUT ENOUGH REACHES YOU W/ THE TRUTH BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE…PAY ATTENTION TO THE SIGNS THAT THE BIBLE (MINE OR YOURS) LAYS OUT FOR THE END OF THE DAYS AND YOU WILL C THAT THESE THINGS ARE HAPPENING JUST AS THE BIBLE FORETOLD, JUST LIKE IN NOAHS DAY AND TIME…BE PROACTIVE, NOT PESSIMISTIC, YOUR LIFE DEPENDS UPON IT. THAT IS A PROMISE FROM JEHOVAH GOD…!
JUST BELIEVE WHAT YOU BELIEVE AND NEVER BRING FIGHT WHEN ONE COMMENTS ON YOU
“No wiggle room”, you do understand that when you write in capital letters you are yelling. Let me strike a point or two no wiggle. How are you supposed to lead others to Jehovah by yelling at them. Matthew 5:43-48 ESV / “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I say to you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven. For he makes his sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust. For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have? Do not even the tax collectors do the same? And if you greet only your brothers, what more are you doing than others? Do not even the Gentiles do the same? Jesus was asked what are the two greatest commandments and in His response He said the following “Matthew 22:39
And a second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as yourself. Jesus didn’t do any yelling at anyone. He never accused anyone, and tells us about judging others.
So with that said, you have sinned at least three times against another man, that would take away all your wiggle room away. How dare you to believe that you are the only people being persecuted and then persecute us yourself. You have shown nothing but hate so far and then call on the name of Jesus. You believe that the way through salvation is knocking on peoples doors, which I have done as a JW and as a Christian. You don’t see me because your not home.
You come to my house, and I answer and I allow you to speak about your beliefs. As soon as I speak about my beliefs you want to leave. Again you came to my house, I was hospitable enough to let you in and listen. Should I not be able to say something in my house about Jesus. If I am confused you will know if you hear me out. Here is the problem, in your own confusion all three or four of you in my house wont let me get a word in. Are you scared that what might be said may cause you to have a change of heart. That hearing the truth may set you free. I know many JW’s that are Christian now, I am one of them.
You say that our Bible written by 40 authors inspired by God is written by pagans. I believe that every person that wrote a book or so in the bible were sinners, and some were big sinners. The translations today are translations made to a modern language spoken today. The English language changes and so the bible is translated for better understanding, same as yours. The difference is the translators make themselves known so we can check their references on their ability to translate Greek or Hebrew to English. The WBTS does not do this and since we don’t know if your translators know Greek than we don’t know of its accuracy.
Take this as my starting point John 1:1 the NWT makes reference to two Gods, read it and dispute it if you can, but it clearly states you recognize gods. It ends saying the word was a god. Explain it, you either believe according to your translation that this means there is more than one God. Or it can only have one other possible response which is misinterpreted that Jesus and God are one and the same. No other possible explanation, sorry.
The JW’s are the only ones doing things the way God says. That is a plain bold faced hypocritical lie. As a former witness I had friends that were gang bangers, fornicators, thieves, liars, cheats, killers, spouse abusers, adulterers and so on, meeting with me at the Kingdom Hall on Wednesday and Sunday.
Problem with that is that when these sins are found out the JW’s disfellowship those people. Because that is what I guess your Jesus said to do or your bible translates forgiveness this way. The Jesus I read about in your book and my Bible just kept walking towards Jerusalem forgiving people. This I would look at as stoning, poor Mary Magdalene if JW’s were around she and Jesus would probably have been stoned.
Years after disassociating myself with the JW’s I went back and it was rough and terrible. I went to a Baptist church and immediately got saved. I am now a minister of the one true God, you have every opportunity to repent of your sins and come to know and have fellowship with the son, Jesus Christ. Come and visit us first, listen to the word given us by Gods inspiration. Pray with us as we will pray for you. The problem is that although God has given you freedom to make decisions, you don’t know it.
Praise be to God
Very well said sir praise God
Everyone wants to be right but no one wants to be saved. Whether I speak in capitals or mention scripture differences and translation differences it’s all the same. Do you want to be saved? Are you going to be saved? Am I going to be saved? I think the bigger point is all religions that are relevant to this conversation / argument give Credence to a final judgment. It is obvious that man has stepped on stirred up adulterated watered down and juiced up every possible interpretation of the truth. Am I going to be saved? Do you want to be saved? Most of these religions that we’re fighting for were formed. Why can’t we re-examine reinterpret the word of God “the Bible”??? Why can’t we form our own ideas our own theological concepts. Why do we have to keep arguing over the old? Why can’t we just start from scratch? There are many concepts from many religions that are universal. If you look at what the Jehovah’s witnesses are same and doing as a whole. They’re the closest to what I would believe my God would want. Saying that they got a lot of s*** f***** up too. I’ve never been saved I’ve never even made it through the crystal clear persuasion book. But I can tell you as other religions have as well 95 to 100% of these people are good people. Can we connect the dots? Is this a generation that we’ll figure it out? I don’t need to hear anymore good news. I don’t need to sit grabbing your necklace and chant. I don’t need to bow to a certain direction. I just need to be saved by the word of God and I need a lot of people to feel the same way as I do.
Your witness is powerful and is from God and is true. I was blessed by your testimony and pray for the conviction, salvation and sanctification for all who hear and long to know the truth.
No. We will NOT find the word trinity in the Bible, BUT
THE ONE GOD IS expressed to us through the GODHEAD.
FATHER. WORD. HOLY SPIRIT
“these three are one”.
1 JOHN 5:7
It is a matter to be discerned rather than understood. Because God’s ways and thoughts are higher than ours. And this discernment comes only from God himself. A man that understands this is blessed!
The Holy Spirit is the one who bares witness to us that we are the children of God. He is also the One that bares witness that every Word of God is true. He is also the One that gives discernment and true Interpretation of the Word of God.
1 CORINTHIANS 2ALL
The things of God are strange to the natural man and cannot be understood by him. So he tries to reason them away.
GOD reveals the truth by his Spirit. Not by an active force but by God himself.
JOHN 16:13
Howbeit when “HE”, the Spirit of Truth is come, “HE”
will guide you into all truth.
HE IS THE WITNESS!
JOHN 1:1-18
“In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God.
NOT A GOD. BUT GOD.
The Word became flesh and dwelt among us.”
Man may add or take away but none of that changes the truth.
HEAVEN AND EARTH MAY PASS AWAY. BUT MY WORD SHALL NOT PASS AWAY. Said the Lord
God bless us all
Doris
But following the holidays ( not Holy days ) is not in Biblical Scripture—that’s why I was attracted to the JW’s where I live because there aren’t any Apostolic Church of God 7th Day on the east coast of Canada where I live —I tried the Sat Sabbath keepers of the Seventh Day Adventists but I didn’t feel the Holy Spirit during sermons there so I’ve come to the conclusion that no Church is perfect or their doctrines or the people in attendance—my Uncle Robert once said that one should feel the presence of the Holy Spirit when gathered with others in worship & he says that that doesn’t always happen at any given time &/or Church so I choose to follow the Biblical Scriptures as interpreted by sone Sat Sabbath keepers while attending ( visiting ) Sunday Churches ( such as The United Church ) for weekly worship if I feel moved by what is bring presented —I believe that God’s spirit can be found in many different Churches & He isn’t choosing any one particular one as ‘the one ‘ —he will choose his Children on His terms not ours & if our hearts are pure & we believe He isn’t going to judge or condemn us if we’re attending a Church which may not be getting everything scripturally correct —❤️❤️❤️
Susan DeMone– I read your comment with interest. You might look into the Church of God Seventh Day based in Denver, CO. There are congregations all over the US & Canada. They are a Sabbath keeping church that does not keep religious holidays with pagan backgrounds (Christmas and Easter). They also believe in basing doctrine on the Bible alone; unlike the SDA church, there is no founding prophetess, special books, or anything like that. It sounds like it might be a good fit for you.
Our walk with the Lord is not base off our feeling it is base off faith in his word. feel will mislead you the enemy can use your feeling against you. children of God walk by faith in his word not by our emotion. His word is our safe guard against the enemy. Not that the holy spirte cannot move our feeling it still base off a thus say it the Lord.
We should all remember we are all sinners and if you disagree do you really deserve to be called righteous.
We all started out as sinners, because we were all born in sin (remember, no children were born in the Garden of Eden; it was AFTER Adam and Eve were put out of the Garden, because of the sin of disobedience, that they began having children), but all will not end as sinners because some of us have been born again. John 3:5-7 (KJV) Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.
1 John 3:9 (KJV) Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
That was the whole reason for God’s coming in the Person of Jesus Christ, to take away the sin of the world by sacrificing His life on the Cross, and rising on the third day. When He ascended on high, He led captivity (all of the sins that have sinners bound) captive. The minute we receive Him as our Lord and Savior, we are filled with His Holy Spirit, because we have been transformed by the renewing of the mind, in that we (the old man) have died with him, were buried with Him, and Got up through Him rising in us, so we are no longer the same.This does NOT mean that we are perfect … we are still subject TO sin because we are still in these fleshly bodies; however, it does not mean that we will – remember the scripture says, Romans 3:23 (KJV) “For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;” (Note, it does not say that all ARE sinning). God’s Holy Spirit makes the difference:Romans 8:9 (KJV) “But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.”
We are entitled to say our opinions!!!!!!
I would like to know who you are. I would like to speak with you and get a better and deeper understanding of what you were saying. There is a JW that keeps calling me trying to persuade me. Some of what she says is confusing. I have been a Christian my entire life. Please help me.
Stay away from J.W if you don’t know your Bible. They will confuse you! Learn what the Bible says about The Father, Son ,The HolySpirit.
Most are of them are nice people and are persistent because they are trying earn there way into Heaven. Not realizing Jesus Christ paid the sin debt if full forever! They usually travel in pairs to avoid being taught by strong Christian. If you bring up (their) version of the Bible (The New World translation) they start backpedaling because it’s a miscarriage of Scripture! It’s a shame because with today’s technology you can look up Hebrew and Greek and see that they added and deleted words to fit there teaching. But most that knock at your door are rookie J.W ,it’s the one that stands back and observes you better be ready for because he or she will decide to end the conversation if you start persuading the rookie.
Stay Christian these people confuse you they pushed your family all into believing in them. They are a cult Michael the Ark angel thinking he was GOD. GOD THREW HIM TO THE PITYS OF HELL. THESE PEOPLE PUSHED MY SON AWAY FROM US HIS FAMILY.DONT LISTEN OR READ THIS GO TO YOUTUBE AND SEE FOR YOURSELF ALL THE PEOPLE THAT LEFT THIS CULT OH BECAREFUL YOU CAN NOT SAVE A FAMILY IF THEY NEED A BLOOD TRANSFUSION. READ J.W. are the first to go through the doors of the pits of hell. Read the new king James Bible. Get out of this cult I know many that lefted..
Amen!!!!!!!!
Well said. Enough said. I believe.
Believe in who this cult? Big mistake educated yourself before joining this cult through the doors of hell.
Yes u r now saved, totally unscriptual, u r comfortable now with no consequences, do what u want, sin how u want and your saved, really?
That’s a lie to be saved you need to except God as your only one and savior an be Baptist and repeat don’t be foolish.
You have no idea how much I needed to read this today! Thank you, thank you, thank you
I feel bad for you do you not have flesh soul and spirit is it are fault that your religion believes in two Gods because God needs another God to be his word does that make any sense to you but then again you forget to read 1 Timothy 3 : 16 Also are we not soul and spirit and flesh we are three in one fool so is God and if the son said the father is greater because the father is the whole spirit Jesus is his manifested part of God how can you not understand the holy spirit is the father that makes them one in other words for people that are not that bright God called the flesh son and the holy spirit as father in the end of the day there are all one who was perfect like Jesus who healed the sick how feed the multitude how hard is it for you to believe in that then believing that Jesus is a lesser God or was an angel and all the dumb no good nonsense religion not loving go to revelations and see where you land from the seven churches in Asia to see if Jesus does not have many things against you
How does the Jehovah’s Witnesses believe they enter into heaven? How and what way are their sins forgiven or is it by works that they believe they will enter Heaven?
Do the JW have a different Bible? Can any agree if we all have different bibles to study from? I read from the Holy Bible that Jesus Christ is also God, or son or God son of man. These are the references saying Jesus is Jehovah. Exodus 3:11-14, 6:2-3, John 8:52-53, and a few more! So we have so many different religions! Everyone believes they are all correct. So what to do? Seek God with all your heart ❤️ and admit to him you could be wrong? Ask him are you ok? Ask him if you die today will he take you to heaven? Only God knows our heart, only he knows that we want to know him and that we don’t want hell. Right? I believe God loves us all. I believe he can talk to us and lead us all on the right path. I’ve never heard an audible voice but when I say or do the wrong thing I can feel Gods disapproval and I always say pls forgive me. Some of my friends were addicted to drugs, not me because I was to afraid. When we prayed to God and accepted Jesus he came to live on the inside of me. He changed us all. My friends got off drugs only through prayer. They didn’t go to drug program they only prayed. As a teenager I lived in Mannheim Germany as my family was military. Our chaplain on base was Dutch Reformist, when he preached or when we sang I could feel Gods presence. We then transferred to Ft Hood, Texas and we went to the Assembly of God then to a non denominational church. I felt Gods presence here also. We moved to Fl and I attended a baptist church and then went back to the AG church. I could feel Gods presence in both places: now I’m sick and I have all the symptoms of Colin cancer. My test results have not came back and I don’t get to see my doctor until Sept sometime. I’m worried somewhat and I don’t want to die, I have two young grandchildren that I want to live until they get married so I’m asking God to please heal me. I know he is able! However if he says No I’m ok with this also. I do believe what it says in Romans 8:28 All things work together for good to those who love God and called according to his purpose. If u have time pls ask God to heal me and to help me to not be afraid! Thank you! Jesus loves you and he has a plan for all of us! Blessings n Peace ✌️
I will keep you in my prayers. God loves you.
Hi Peggy, I am a Christian who have struggled with acknowledging the Trinity. I’ve spoken to pastors and friends about my anxiety with not believing in the Trinity. I as, how can Jesus speak to God the Father and ask “Why do you forsake me?”. Is he speaking to himself? Is he speaking to his father, God? Scripture says that Jesus sits on the right hand of God. I believe in the Father God, His Son Jesus, and the Holy Spirt as separate entities. No matter how many times people have tried to teach me the Trinity, I just don’t get it. I was raised Baptist and I still am. I believe that God spoke to me to let me know that I have a personal relationship with him. I tell people that everything is tangible which mean that we will be able to see, touch, and feel the Glory of God when he is ready to reveal himself to mankind. We humans will know everything in time. The time may not be now, but it will happen some day. My beliefs are my own and personal with God.
May God Bless and heal your body.
I am a Christian who have struggled with acknowledging the Trinity. I’ve spoken to pastors and friends about my anxiety with not believing in the Trinity. I as, how can Jesus speak to God the Father and ask “Why do you forsake me?”. Is he speaking to himself? Is he speaking to his father, God? Scripture says that Jesus sits on the right hand of God. I believe in the Father God, His Son Jesus, and the Holy Spirt as separate entities. No matter how many times people have tried to teach me the Trinity, I just don’t get it. I was raised Baptist and I still am. I believe that God spoke to me to let me know that I have a personal relationship with him. I tell people that everything is tangible which mean that we will be able to see, touch, and feel the Glory of God when he is ready to reveal himself to mankind. We humans will know everything in time. The time may not be now, but it will happen some day. My beliefs are my own and personal with God.
May God Bless and heal your body.
I was with my dad in the beginning, I am a part of my dad. Through raising me he instilled his moral fortitude in me so that when someone looks at me they see my dad. When he is away, I have my dad’s authority. This is how I understand Jesus. His will is that our Father’s will be done. We worship God the Father through his son Yeshua. Believing in his life, death, and resurrection gives us the inheritance. Be set apart from the world. Follow The Way of the living Word, and remember that faith without works is dead.
Hope you are okay and healthy… just read your post, praying for you and sending you love
.. Wayne.. Stevenage, England
Yours is the only comment on here, that I’ve seen, that speaks the absolute Truth.
Praying for your healing and comfort.
Jehovah witnesses are on point …
All but the Sabbath!!! Prob …the most important of all!! ITS NOT A MOSAIC LAW!
Sabbath is the seal of GOD….
FOREVER!!!!
Sabbath is the day of rest the LORD gave us. Bunch of ignorants.
JEHOVAH’S WITNESSES ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR OUR DIVORCE! JWS ARE A CULT. WHY DOES ANY RELIGIONNEED ANOTHER BOOK OR MAGAZINE? JWS PRAY ON YHE IGNORANT.
You are responsible for your divorce by being unevenly joined not nothing else.
LOL LOL
You’re rather hateful for a JW.
Just because you don’t understand something doesn’t make it untrue. We cannot possibly begin to comprehend God. Who are you or anyone else to question who He is? You’re right, the Word trinity isn’t IN the Bible but that doesn’t mean that our powerful God couldn’t have more than one attribute. Why would God create an angel to create everything else? And only a perfect sacrifice could have been a replacement for our sin and only God Himself is perfect. And While your Bible has been changed to suit your beliefs the translagie forgot to change Revelation 22: 12- and following. Who said they were coming quickly? Jesus Christ and he states as you know, I am the Alpha and The Omega. The same words God spoke. I have your Bible and while I studied with the witnesses I couldn’t feel God’s Holy Spirit. They were judgemental. Rude. And not allowing a member to research outside of their religion tells me something else is at play. What are you afraid of them finding out? The truth? I found it and I can feel God’s Holy Spirit and I accept Christ as my Lord and Savior.
Rachel, well said.
Because your liers and change the words and lie to people. Your a cult with false teachings.
Rachel don’t believe go to another church with true teachings they trying to make u feel bad they are a cult .
I’m sorry for some of the comments
Made. But you are sincerely wrong. As a sinner saved by grace you don’t understand the Bible. God thru Jesus created a perfect world but he gave man free will to either love and trust in him or not. Adam chose to eat of the tree God told him not to. Thereby sin and death entered the world. When my Lord and Saviour return all those who accept his death as payment for our sins will be with him in the new Jerusalem. As a Christian I don’t want anyone to go to hell. We are all alike sinners before a Holy God. Who else will stand for You? Revelations plainly tells you about the new heavens and earth. Please read God’s word and understand the truth. I will pray for your eyes to be opened.
Thank you for standing up for jehovah God. We are definately in the last days of this system of things. What a blessing it will be to have Satan cast out by Jehovah forever. And never be in pain or suffering ever again, where DEATH will be no more. I love Jehovah for giving us a second chance at everlasting life. So many things are acceptable now that Jehovah destroyed cities for in the past. Satan has worked very hard at pulling people away from Jehovah but thankfully Satan couldn’t accomplish what he
Told Jehovah that he could do.Still Satan will work even harder till the end to change people’s thinking about Jehovah and the truth
You are right it is like in Noah’s time . And people will either believe in what Satan wants them to or we will believe in Jehovah and make it in the New System of things. Plus the excitement of the Resurrection , and love ones being resurrected and being there to welcome them
Yes, in harmony with that thought Jehovah’s witnesses are indeed Christ followers. Just because they use his Father’s name does not mean that they are not devout footstep followers of Christ Jesus. Why Christ himself stated that he had made his father’s name known to the people or men that he had given to him.Jehovah
Often when he would heal people he would tell them now go and tell them that the kingdom of the heavens has drawn near. what would that mean for people on earth that the Earth would be transformed into a place where people would no longer get sick no longer grow old and no longer die what a wonderful hope we have for the future.Let’s not get hung up on grammatical differences of one or two scriptures translated from Greek think of the big picture Jesus gave his life his perfect life and was sent from his original dwelling Place which was heaven above to come down and buy back for all mankind what Adam lost perfect endless life on a paradise Earth that is the issue but the main issue is the Sovereignty or rightfulness of rulership of his Father Jehovah God
Our God, we don’t believe that the end started in 1914 but rather that Jesus became king in 1914 he stated in the book of Matthew what to look for as a composite sign that the end was near and that he was in fact on his throne in Revelation says so down the Great dragon was hurled the one called devil and Satan the one who is misleading the entire inhabited Earth he was hurled down and and his angels were hurled down with him. since 1914 the world has been going down ever since and we are closer now to the end than ever before. Revelation further mentions woe to the Earth and to the Sea because the devil has come down to you having great anger knowing that he has a short period of time.wars famine pestilence earthquakes in one place after another lawlessness and ….
we are living in the last days those things which take place once Christ as heavenly King was installed as Jehovah’s appointed heavenly King. Christ will turn his kingship over to his father Jehovah after the thousand years have ended. God loved the world so much that he sent his only begotten son the firstborn of all creation.
*When Jesus would heal people
First of all people, Charles Taze Russel is not the founder of a new religion as most of you guys think.
The modern-day organization of Jehovah’s Witnesses began at the end of the 19th century. At that time, a small group of Bible students who lived near Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, in the United States, began a systematic analysis of the Bible. They compared the doctrines taught by the churches with what the Bible really teaches. They began publishing what they learned in books, newspapers, and the journal that is now called The Watchtower—Announcing Jehovah’s Kingdom.
Among that group of sincere Bible students was a man named Charles Taze Russell. While Russell took the lead in the Bible education work at that time and was the first editor of The Watchtower, he was not the founder of a new religion. The goal of Russell and the other Bible Students, as the group was then known, was to promote the teachings of Jesus Christ and to follow the practices of the first-century Christian congregation. Since Jesus is the Founder of Christianity, we view him as the founder of our organization.—Colossians 1:18-20.
And also, We believe that Jesus isn’t the God himself, doesn’t mean that we do not believe in Jesus. We believe that Jesus, is the son of God.
While reading the bible (Other bibles as well), I’ve read in Matthew 26: 36-46 that Jesus was praying in Gethsemane, and when he returned to the apostles, they fell asleep and so he returned and continued to pray. The question is: who is he praying to? To himself? Since he is the God himself? No, he was praying to someone and that is his father the almighty Jehovah.
We believe that Jesus is the King, the passage, the way of our prayers. We never thought Jesus as an unimportant perfect being.
The topic here is “being Christians” and that only means the qualities that are lead by Jesus, and followed by his followers.
God came down, in the Person of Jesus Christ, in order to identify with man. God is Spirit; therefore, in order to be seen, He had to come in the likeness of sinful flesh. Philippians 2:5-8 (KJV) Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was “made” in the likeness of men:
And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross. (The word made, does not mean created, but means was caused to be through a body that was prepared – Hebrews 10:4-7 (KJV) For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins.
Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me:
In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin thou hast had no pleasure.
Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God.
Even God acknowledges Jesus as God – Hebrews 1:8 (KJV) But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.
Jesus is not a created being – Hebrews 1:5-6 (KJV) For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?
And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.
Satan is a created being – Ezekiel 28:13 (KJV) Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.
To be Christian, is: (1). To be “Christ-like,” (2) “Christ”ian shows ownership – Romans 8:9 (KJV) “But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.” (3) Christ would never deny His Deity, and He never did: Luke 18:18-19 (KJV) And a certain ruler asked him, saying, Good Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?
And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God. (I pray that you do not take this to mean that Jesus is saying that He is not good, and; therefore, is not God …. that would be blasphemous – a house divided against itself cannot stand).
Vincent, you say a group of men got together and formed what is now a multi billion world empire.
These MEN are not approved or anointed by divine anything, they are MEN. You are a follower of MAN.
That is your downfall. Our Father gave us the most blessed thing: his OWN word. The BIBLE. Secondly, he gave us a beautiful mind to use on our own. You are foolish to believe you need the help of anyone else to do the will of GOD.
Read the GOD given word and use your own mind to find knowledge and gain wisdom. It will save your life.
Wow Jonathan the last sentence made a lot of sense. I think everyone could benefit from learning all religions. We could all understand each other better and knowledge is power
Hmm I understand that fact because I HV studied the gods of others so far and I have come to appreciate what I have as a jw think we’ll and have a rebate of what you call religion
Weres RUSSELL now in hell,for false teachings
Charles Taz Russell claimed to be able to translate Greek and Antient Hebrew. He further claimed that the old scrolls had been misinterpreted and he set about rewriting the Bible. He founded a new religion that later morphed into the Jw’s. He was called before the courts on March 17, 1913, in Ontario High Court, before Police Court Magistrate, G. F. Jelfs, under cross examination was handed an Antient Greek text. He then admitted that he could neither recognize or read Greek or Antient Hebrew. (or Latin, & that he had never taken a course in philosophy or systemic theology much less attended schools of higher learning.)
Do you think you can get even 1 JW to verify anything I just said? Good luck!
I agree with you 100% and here i found this in Wikipedia just to confirm what you had said.
On April 1, 1913, the High Court of Ontario returned a verdict of “No Bill” ruling that Russell was not entitled to damages because, the libel was not likely to result in any violence within Canada.[97][98] Following the libel case, Ross published an expanded edition of 48-pages titled, Some Facts and More Facts about the Self-Styled “Pastor” Charles T. Russell (of Millennial Dawn Fame). In this work, Ross claimed that during the proceedings on March 17, 1913, Russell had repeatedly lied under oath by affirming that he was ordained, but denying the same when cross-examined, by affirming that he knew the Greek language, but when shown by Counselor Staunton an extract from the New Testament in Greek by Westcott & Hort, he was unable to recognize it, and that he had not been divorced from his wife, but retracted the statement under cross-examination.[99] In response, Russell stated through various printed and public sources that he had never claimed knowledge of the Greek language, merely the alphabet[100] and that early Christians were also criticized by the religious authorities for being unlearned and ignorant.[101] He believed that his ordination was “of God” according to the biblical pattern, not requiring any denominational approval or theological training. He suggested that his annual election as “Pastor” by over 500 congregations worldwide constituted him as properly ordained.[102][103] Russell contended that Ross and others were attacking him because they were unable to answer his theological arguments, preferring instead to resort to slander and character assassination.[104]
Jonathan I hear you and agree 100 percent. Sadly, JW will be among the crowd when our Father in heavens say ‘I never knew you’d.
They claim to serve GOD but at the end of every month they write down all the time they spent out in service and hand it over to a corporation.
You cannot serve more than one GOD.
Sorry no your not sure J.W confuses people but they never confused me at all. Yes we’re at en times enjoy walking down the bottom gates.
My experience has been that Christians who become Jehovah’s Witnesses begin to trash Jesus by denying his divinity and deity. They are eager belittle anyone who resists their mentor’s man-made religion. They very quickly agree that Jehovah does not want any created being to be worshipped according to the First and Second Commandments. Since their belief is that Jesus was created out of the Archangel Michael…they must be in violation of Jehovah’s 10 Commandments if they worship Jesus. How does a Jehovah’s Witness view the 11 disciples, who worshipped the resurrected Jesus at his departure. Although the JW are eager to judge and condemn all of Christendom as heretics, do they publicly condemn the Apostles as violators of Jehovah’s Commandments?
I have not met one Jehovah’s Witness who did not try to destroy my faith in Jesus. None of them seem to accept the authority of Jesus, the Son of God, as being Almighty. They deny that Jesus has been given all judgement of mankind, that he can forgive sin, be the Bread of Life and the Resurrection and be the King of Kings and Lord of Lords. “Christians” with little or no Bible based doctrine and a lack of a personal relationship with Jesus, become vulnerable to the JW cult’s brainwashing techniques. World-wide, the Jehovah’s Witnesses are not nearly the problem that is caused by Islam…but they are part of the same New World Order that is coming against Jesus. Worshipping Jesus is the will of Father God and can only be done through the power of His Holy Spirit.
AMEN to the above comment!!!! That’s what I have to say about that…….AMEN!!!!!!
Amen
I agree, amen to the above comments.
your a liar as well because how are part of the new world order when we DONT participapte on govts??
Did you go to public schools, is your drivers License from the DMV, does your mail go through the post office, do you pay taxes, do you or someone you know receive social security, do you bank at an FDIC bank? If your answer is yes to any of these, you are involved in government. Just because you don’t pledge allegiance, sing the national anthem, serve the country you live in or vote does not make you exempt. In fact it is part of the problem of this country. Laws are being passed for homosexual marriages, legalized drugs, freedom to carry guns, and freedom to have abortions. Yet of the million plus JW’s in the country not a single vote against any of these sins. Must be the diehard Christians fault that is supporting what Jehovah says about these things. That’s right, I said I know what He is called and why He is called it.
Praise God
YOU KNOW THAT YOU ARE A LIAR…LOL NOBODY FROM JEHOVAH’S ORGANIZATION EVER IN LIFE TRIED TO TURN YOU AGAINST JESUS OR TRIED TO BELITTLE HIS IMPORTANCE. WE MOST DEFINITELY BELIEVE IN JESUS AND GIVE HIM PRAISE THAT IS APPROPRIATE TO HIS POSITION, AS INSTRUCTED BY HIS FATHER JEHOVAH. ONLY A PERFECT MAN COULD REPENT FOR OUR SINS AND THAT WAS JESUS. STOP DENYING THE IMPORTANCE OF A NAME, APPRECIATE THAT GOD IS A TITLE AND JEHOVAH IS HIS NAME AND START YOUR RESEARCH FROM THERE. FORGET THAT YOU ARE PROMOTING BAPTIST, CATHOLIC, LUTHERAN, JW OR ANY OTHER RELIGION AND EDUCATE YOURSELF ON THE FACTS AND NOT THE FICTION THAT IS FALSE RELIGION, HATE AND THE MEDIA. HOW LONG AS IT BEEN SINCE YOU SOLD YOUR SOUL? PEOPLE ARE SO FUNNY: ALL OF A SUDDEN PEOPLE ARE SEEING THAT CHRISTMAS, VALENTINES DAY AND ALL THE OTHER PAGAN HOLIDAYS ARE AND HAVE BEEN NON-CHRISTIAN/PAGAN RITUALS DESIGNED BY MAN AND THE CHURCH TO BENEFIT MAN SOLELY. IN KIND, YOU WILL ALL REALIZE THAT EVERYTHING IN THE NWT IS FACTUAL AND CAN AND HAS BEEN PROVEN/BACKED BY BIBLICAL SCHOLARS FROM THE SOCIETY AS WELL AS YOUR PAGAN MINISTERS, PREACHERS, FATHERS, AND POPES, ETC…
Then support that, you only know what you are being told. You don’t know when Jesus Birthday is and neither do I, but I don’t go around telling people when the end of the world is either. No one knows that day and according to scripture no-one will. Does the bible say that around 1914 the beginning of the end started, ah no. You can note one act of kindness and say we are doing the service of God. We feed the hungry, we have helped a women move her home that had to be out by the end of the day and had no help. I visit the old peoples homes, I have knocked on visitors to the churches door to evangelize. Which causes me to ask this question why does everyone that is a Witness have to do road work? The gift of evangelism is not a gift of everyone’s. You may not know about the gifts of the Spirit, because you probably skip that part. And why are you still yelling?
I don’t need Christmas, I have a daily personal relationship with Christ who by the way is the way the truth and the life, no-one goes to the Father except through Jesus, John 14:6. It says the same thing in your translation too I checked. Even further verse 7 says if you men had known me, you would have known my Father also from this moment on you know Him and have seen Him. What does that mean you ask? It means if you have seen me, known me, walked with me, talked with me and prayed to me then you have also done so with God. He and the Father are one and the same. I am sure you have some irrational explanation what your own Bible says. Moreover, the Watchtower Society has also stated that their own publication The Watchtower is God’s “means of communication to his people on earth.” What is the bible then?
2 Timothy 3:16 from the NWT says ” all scripture is inspired of God and beneficial for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness, 17. so that the men of God may be FULLY competent, COMPLETELY equipped for every good work. I do not need a watchtower or any of the doctrinal books used in the Kingdom hall or house. Such as “The Truth that Leads to Eternal Life” the blue book right? Listening to the Great Teacher, the pink Book, right? Yeah I know, I am not pretending you are. God says the bible is what you need to know it teaches about everything, the gift of the Holy spirit left here for us to help us learn and discern is what you need. Not unknown with no credential authors of a periodical who are fallible.
I will never be fooled by what man says again.
Praise God
I dont celebrate holidays. And I’m NOT a JW. And Yes, some are rude, mean, belittle people, lie, steal, cheat. You know how I know? 2 reasons: first, they are human. Second, I know about a 100 of them. Case closed on that. You’re making assumptions and putting words in people’s mouths. And God’s name is YHWH.
Your so full of s==t all that crap you talking the only true here is that your all going to he’ll except those Baptist ones repeanted one and the one who excepted LORD as there only savior, and his Jewish ones.
Thank you AB. Well stated! God Bless!
I agree with with you,Amen!!! Continue to give God the praises. Let the JW keep reading there comic watchtower books.
Amen. Holly is the name of Jesus.
You are truly an example of Satan’s work upon a mind and heart.
Satan challenged Jehovah God and told him that he could do just what he has managed to do with you and your mind, heart, and thoughts
Thankfully Satan won’t be able to pull all humans to his side. And In the last days of this system of things Jehovah God will cast Satan out of the heaven forever never ever to return or to have any influence as he has had. What a blessing that will be
You will either be in the new system or not. Please reconsider your thinking and pray to Jehovah God for help and understanding with a pure heart of wanting to know the truth so the truth can set you free as promised in the bible..
Ok well let me explain this from a reasoning veiwpoint without using the hated name Jehovah. You say that because that because Charles Taze Russell started this religion that it was a man made religion. Well let’s see. We have the Catholic Church that says its leader was Jesus but say that the apostle Peter was the first pope. A MAN! Then we have we have the have the Baptists who name is derived from John the Baptist, A MAN! Then there’s the Lutherans, Martin Luther. and a ton of other religions that named themselves after men and self-appointed men. You say that JW’S are a man – made religion but bible says at Ephesians 4:8 that gifts in men would be provided to the Christians verse 7 said that Christ provided that gift Charles Taze Russell did something that many so called men of God would not do. He was already a successful business man in the clothing industry and very rich. But gave used his entire fortune away for bible knowledge and to help people away to help people worldwide learn the truth about what was written in the bible. And btw he used the King James to do it because it was all that was in his hands it that time. That early organization was call simply International Bible Students because THEY DID NOT WANT TO GIVE GLORY TO THEMSELVES BUT TO GOD. HE MAY NOT HAVE DONE EVERYTHING RIGHT, AND NO ONE CAN BY THE WAY, BUT HE DID THE BEST HE COULD AND YOU CAN’T ARGUE WITH THE RESULTS. OR THE PEACE AMONG THESE BLASPHEMOUS PEOPLE. If all the people of the earth were _________Witnessess. would there not be peace on the earth. they don’t get involved in war with other nation. They don’t vote because they believe that all glory for what they should go to God not man. But God chose men to do things in his behalf. Jesus chose men to do a work he could have easily done by himself. So if God is going to choose a man to accomplish his will is this really anything new that he has not done before? Who should God pick, a man builds a fortune for himself by exploiting a person’s money by making them feel guilty, and bamboozling them out of ten + percent of their income every week or a man like Russell who chose to give up a fortune for the sake of preaching a message in the same manner as the true Christians of the past. House to house and where ever he saw people and reached people all over the world WITH A FREE MESSAGE!!!!! YOUR VIEWPOINT OF RUSSELL DOES NOT PROVE ANYTHING!!!!! AND THE SAME BRAINWASHING TECHNIQUES THAT YOU SAY JW’S USE ARE THE SAME THAT JESUS USED!!! AND IF YOU CARED ENOUGH TO TAKE SERIOUS LOOK AT THE METHOD OF TEACHING BY JESUS OF WHICH HE SAID WE ARE TO IMITATE!!! THE PEOPLE OF JESUS’ DAY CALLED HIM A DEVIL WORSHIPPER FOR HIS MESSAGE OF THAT DAY. HE ALSO SAID THAT HIS PEOPLE WOULD BE HATED, LIED ON, PERSECUTED, MOCKED, AND KILLED FOR TRYING TO DECLARE A GODLY MESSAGE. WHICH IS MORE THAN I CAN SAY FOR PEOPLE LIKE YOU WHO STAY ON THE INTERNET AND HAVE NOTHING BETTER TO DO THAN PUT DOWN A PEOPLE WHO AT LEAST TRY TO LIVE A GODLY LIFE ACCORDING TO WHAT IS ACTUALLY WRITTEN IN THE BIBLE. YOU PEOPLE ALWAYS WANT TO HARP ON ALL THE THINGS YOU THINK ARE NEGATIVE ABOUT JW’S BUT YOU NEVER TALK ABOUT THE POSITIVE, GOOD THINGS THEY DO. JUST LIKE THE PEOPLE IN THE FIRST CENTURY DURING THE TIME OF JESUS. THE WILLINGNESS OF THEM TO GO OUT AND RECEIVE THE SLAMMED DOORS, AND AT TIME PHYSICAL ATTACKS, WITHOUT RETALIATING BACK. I KNEW AN OLD WITNESS THAT FOR HIS BELIEFS WAS LITERALLY TARRED FEATHERED AND RUN OUT OF TOWN. ANOTHER HAD ACID THROWN ON HER ALL FOR DELIVERING A MESSAGE FROM A BIBLE THAT YOU SAY IS NOT CHRISTIAN. I WAS IN A CONGREGATION IN ILLINOIS AND KNEW A PERSON WHO WAS ONE PERSONALLY HER AND HER HUSBAND. THEY FOUND A DIAMOND NECKLACE THAT WAS LEFT OUTSIDE SOMEWHERE. THEY DID NOT KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH SO THEY PRAYED TO _______. AND PUT OUT AN AD THAT THEY HAD FOUND A MISSING NECKLACE AND THEIR NUMBER TO CALL THEM. SOME WOULD CALL THEM AND WOULD ASK THEM TO DESCRIBE THE NECKLACE. SOME WERE LYING TO THEM. THEN A WOMAN CALLED AND PERFECTLY DESCRIBED THE NECKLACE AND WHERE IT WAS LEFT. WHEN SHE DID. THEY KNEW THEIR PRAYER HAD BEEN ANSWERED. THE WOMAN EVEN WANTED TO GIVE A REWARD WHICH WAS NOT ACCEPTED. INSTEAD THEY ASKED THAT THE NEXT TIME JW’S COME TO HER DOOR TO LISTEN TO THEM. AND SHE EXCITED SAID SHE WOULD. If JW’S are not Christians then who are. Maybe the real problem is that JW’S ARE TRUE CHRISTIANS NOT ONLY BECAUSE THEY SAY ARE THEY SHOW IT AND ARE NOT AFRAID TO PUBLIC SHAME OR CRITICISM OR GOD FORBID TRY TO DO THE RIGHT THING.
I do not have a viewpoint on Mr. Charles I pray that he had good intentions. The King James was not he only version of the Bible, so that is a lie. The King James however is the oldest translation in English making it the closest to the original Greek of the NT and Hebrew/Aramaic of the OT. In order for someone to get a good understanding and create a new translation He must be able to write it from the original text. It would otherwise be like you telling me something and then an hour later I tell it to someone word for word. The translation will be missing something. As does the translation you read. I mean when I grew up a Witness I was not allowed to read any other translation. Is that where you are a man that is not allowed to read the Bible? What I choose to do was find out by myself. I am even going to school and have had the right to challenge what teachers are telling me. I may sometimes be right and other times wrong, but I have a since Adam and Eve right to choose from what I eat.
Actually, if you go back to the original language the Bible was written in and study those meaning, the rock upon which The Church is built is peter’s confession that Jesus is the Christ. Peter “Petros” mean pebble. Perhaps the play on words is because it take both Peter’s pebble of faith combined with Jesus, the cornerstone to make the church. With out both the Christ and the belief of his followers there would be no Church. There is only 1 church. There is only 1 God. There is only 1 baptism. There is only 1 way to heaven. Jesus Christ is the way, the truth and the life. No one enters into heaven except through him.
Please please stop using upper caps for crying out loud!!!
Well look above my post Joel said it all, their is nothing really for me to say but give them a chance you would find that what the Witnesses teach is brought out in the bible their whole life is devoted to Gods word and they accept the discipline and console that God gives them through his word the bible, I am a bible student and been studying for 9 months now and it have been a trill just knowing what Jehovah God have in stored for us is faith strengthen. they are also very nice people and have very high morals they show self sacrificing love for one another, they hate the things that are detestable to Jehovah. I truly believe in my heart that the Witnesses is the mark of True Christians what other religions show the unity and love that the Witnesses shows? what other religion can preach in 235 lands? none only those who have Jehovah’s holy spirit and I can say for sure the Jehovah’s Witnesses has it with them
Its not about their love for one another and their unity, I’m a Baptist and I can truly say that their is a lot of love within our congregation. But not all are doers of the word same as any other religion. The issue is the doctrine. You have been studying for a whole nine months. Try reading Pauls letter to the Colossians, Philippians and to the Thessalonians. Get an understanding what Paul has to say about false doctrine and false prophecy. You will see that some people calling themselves Christians were mixing in some of their own beliefs causing confusion and sin. Usually starting with one man putting in his own twist of the Gospel message. They were not repeating the words that the Apostle Paul had been preaching to them. Now is Paul one of the bible writers inspired by the God? I think so, was he still one of the chosen writers of the Gospel message, sent to deliver the message by Jesus himself? Yes he was, so who then has the right to translate or change what was written by those godly men, if God inspired the writings and if Jesus led their walk. Jesus told his disciples where to go, how to go there, what they may expect. Those twelve were not the only ones following Jesus. They were the only ones called by Jesus. Big difference and the bible is specific about who is called.
I once read that baseball and professional sports as a whole allowed blacks to play before the JW allowed them to practice with them. It is something I am going to research, but I am sure it is going to be hard to find.
Praise God
Thank you! may Jehovah continue to pour out his holy spirit upon you as you obey all the things Christ commanded us.
THE LAST DAYS
On the whole Christians are about 85% united in there faith. There are few things they disagree on which are minor but issues believe me.
But what is so amazing is God will wait untill The prophet Mohammed, or untill 1880 for Joseph Smith and Charles Taze Russell are about to tell us where we are going so wrong!
And the thing is they all try to attack the person Of The Lord Jesus Christ.
Next week someone else will come with a new Idea.
We must be living in the last days with so many false prophets about.
God created the heavens and the earth.
God form 2 perfect humans name Adam & Eve
God gave Adam & Eve choices
(To be perfect you have to have choices & the will to do things)
God send them to the fruit between good and evil and God told them to eat all the good fruits except one and so while they were eating Satan comes a long in that one tree and told them eat this fruit from this tree and you will be like God and so they did and then there was sin feeling ashamed,scared,shy .
The devil told us from perfect but then God saved us also said in the bible we were adopted from him and told Jesus the son of God and bought us with it body and when we die we will be in heaven where God placed for us believers with Jesus the sons of God
I think the whole Jehovah religion makes no sense and is craazzyyyyyyy. You people allow UR kids to die before u will allow for blood transfusion and u believe in god, Jehovah whatever u call him??? What kinda parents would prefer for the child to die in name of some crazy believes. !!!!
You are correct, crazzzzyy with a capital (C).pray for the foolish,let them believe what they choose..The Almighty God knows what true.Just continue to stay with the scriptures that’s in the Holy Bible,Not a bible that man made up..God never change…” Man do”..God don’t SIN !!! And he never Changes.
John 14:9 (NLT)- Jesus replied, “Have I been with you all this time, Phillip, and yet you still don’t know who I am? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father! So why are you asking me to show him to you? Don’t you believe that I am in the Father and the Father is in me? The words I speak are not my own, but my Father who lives in me does his work through me. Just believe that I am in the Father and the Father is in me.”
John 14:6 (NLT)-Jesus told him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one can come to the Father except through me. If you had really known me, you would know who my Father is. From now on you do know Him and have seen Him!”
John 1:1- In the beginning the was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Everything points to Jesus, when questioning anything, head to the source of truth, the Bible. The Living Word of God, not a Bible written by a false prophet.
Jesus loves you, He died for you. There is nothing we can ever do which separates us from His love, accept Him into your heart and inherit the kingdom of God.
Also…
26And God said: ‘Let us make man in our image, after our likeness;
Also john says that Jesus exsisted before he did ” he was before me: john 1:15
Jesus’ eternality and pre-existence in John’s Gospel
The pre-existence of Christ is clearly stated in John 1:1-4: “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning. Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. In him was life.”
This Word (Logos in Greek) became incarnate in Jesus. “The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us,” John tells us (verse 14). The eternal, uncreated Word who was God, and yet was with God as one of the Persons of the Godhead, became a human being. The Word “was” God (an eternal state) but “became” a human being. The Word never came into being, that is, he didn’t “become” the Word. He always was the Word, or God. The Word’s existence is open-ended. He has always existed.
If not God how can he have always exsisted?
Colossians 1:17 he is before all things and in Him all things hold together.
If Jesus is not God how can he be before all things and how can He hold all things together?
If we go back to Isaiah 41:4, 43:10 and 46:4, we can see the background for Jesus’ reference to himself in John’s Gospel as ego eimi (“I AM”). In Isaiah 41:4, God or Yahweh says: “I, the Lord…I am he.” In Isaiah 43:10 he says “I am he,” and later says, “‘You are my witnesses,’ declares the Lord, ‘that I am God’” (verse 12). In 46:4, God (Yahweh) again refers to himself as “I am he.”
The Hebrew phrase “I am he” is translated in the Greek version of the Holy Scriptures, the Septuagint (which the apostles used), by the phrase ego eimi in Isaiah 41:4; 43:10; and 46:4. Jesus’ made the “I am he” statements as references to himself because they directly connected to God’s (Yahweh’s) statements about himself in Isaiah. John said, in effect, that Jesus was saying he was God in the flesh (a point also taught in John 1:1, 14, which introduces the Gospel and speaks of the Word’s divinity and incarnation.)
Jehovah, the One True God, is a statement that I agree with. Jehovah Jireh, Jehovah Rapha, Jehovah Nissi are all descriptions of the One True God of which I agree with. I believe that there is only One God based on what is written:
Deuteronomy 32:39
‘See now that I, I am He, And there is no god besides Me; It is I who put to death and give life. I have wounded and it is I who heal, And there is no one who can deliver from My hand.
Every other god ever mentioned is only a god because people worship it. There is no life in any other god but only in the One True God!
Exodus 34:14 —for you shall not worship any other god, for the Lord, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God—
So either Jesus is the One True God from which salvation has come or salvation didn’t come because He is not the One True God.
Isaiah 43:11 “I, even I, am the Lord, And there is no savior besides Me.
If you say that salvation comes through a god then you contradict all that is in the Old Testament (from which every disciple of Jesus taught from).
To say that salvation came through a god and not God is a lie.
Jehovah’s Witnesses EXPOSED!
Compiled and Edited by David J. Stewart
The Jehovah Witnesses are a Satanic organization, based upon the occult of Freemasonry. Charles Taze Russell was a 33rd Degree Freemason; as was Joseph Smith, founder of the Mormon cult. Carefully notice the Masonic cross at the upper left corner of the photo below…
The Masonic cross used by the Masonic Jehovah’s Witnesses
Russell and the Watch Tower Bible and Track Societyin the Greatest Masonic Center Cemetery
The picture below is the same scene as above, but without the zoom. Notice the illuminati pyramid. This is where Charles Taze Russell is buried.
Below is a close-up of the inscription on the pyramid above. This is irrefutable proof that Jehovah Witnesses are inseparably linked toSatanic Freemasonry.
Below: Notice the Freemasonry cross, the Knights Templar symbol. C.T. Russell was a Knights Templar.
Below: Notice the Masonic cross in this Freemasonry meeting hall.
The founders of both “faiths,” the Mormons and Jehovah’s witnesses, were of the Illuminati bloodline. Charles Taze Russell, who founded theWatchtower Society (Jehovah Witnesses), was of the Illuminati Russell bloodline, which also founded the infamous Skull and Bones Society at Yale University. Charles Taze Russell was a Satanist, a pedophile according to his wife, and a friend of the Rothschilds. Indeed it was the Rothschilds who funded the Jehovah’s Witness operation into being, along with other Illuminati bankers, through “contributions” by organizations like the Rothschild-controlled B’nai B’rith. This was proved in a court of law in 1922. One of the key people involved in this was Frank Goldman who later became President of B’nai B’rith. Why would an organization set up (in theory) to help Jewish people and promote the Jewish faith, be funding into existence the Jehovah’s Witnesses??? I think the name Rothschild answers the question. Russell was also a high degree Freemason and Knights Templar. He promoted Zionism, another Rothschild creation (see Hitler was a Rothschild), on behalf of his friends and backers.
In his book The Watchtower & the Masons Fritz Springmeier says:
“It has always been disconcerting that the Masons are so adept at smokescreens. The leader of the Anti-Masonic political party in the 1830-1840’s turned out to be a Mason. Both C.T. Russell and J. Rutherford printed material that was less than favorable to Freemasonry. And yet I now know that C.T. Russell was a Freemason, a Knights Templar. I also know that Rutherford worked intimately with Freemasons who were his good friends.”
The Occult Roots of the Jehovah’s Witnesses
Read the eye-opening, Be Wise As Serpents (free online .PDF book), by political prisoner and Christian, Fritz Springmeier.
Read the eye-opening, Occult Theocrasy (free online .PDF book), by Edith Starr Miller.
She wrote the book in 1933 and lists Charles Taze Russell as a Knights Templar Mason on page page 737…http://maritimes.indymedia.org/uploads/2007/06/10008-occult_theocrasy-s-_2.jpg
Read the eye-opening, The Watchtower and the Masons (free online .PDF book), by political prisoner and Christian, Fritz Springmeier.
THE JEHOVAH’S WITNESS A DAUGHTER OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH
This Satanic society used Catholic Church Sources in order to produce its New World Translation. Westcott and Hort were two Satanists, founders of the Hermes Club and members of famed Russian witch Madam Blavatsky’s Theosophy cult.
Dr. Bill Grady said it best in his excellent book, Final Authority…
“Wescott and Hort, were a pair of unsaved liberals whose open Vatican sympathies cast them as the consummate Jesuit plants.”
“To regain her corner on the market, Rome created an elite paramilitary Gestapo unit that would make Himmler’s SS appear like a Sunday school….sparking what historians call, the counter-Reformation. The infamous Society of Jesus was founded by Ignatius De Loyola in 1534, more commonly known as the Jesuits….”
They are the most militant arm of papal power to this day. Their goals were to reclaim those that had left Catholicism and to attack the reliability of the Textus Receptus. They would use ANY METHOD to regain control including confiscation, treachery, torture and assassination. Jesuits will stop at nothing to bring the whole world under subjection to the Vatican. The Jesuits ploy was to entice Protestants back to Rome. They knew they could not bring anyone back into the bondage of Catholicism as long as true believers clung to the pure text. So the Jesuits plotted to replace our Bible with pro-Catholic readings of Jerome’s Vulgate. This would cause the Protestant scholars to believe our text was unreliable, unreadable and not scholarly. Once programmed, the scholars would attack the pure text, all the while, believing they were doing God’s service.”
Westcott and Hort took two waste Catholic Sources (the Sinaiticus and the Vaticanus) to produce their waste version of the Bible, Nestle and the New World Translation of the Jehovah’s Witnesses, written by Senior Jesuits Jose Maria Bover and A. Merkz, followed Westcott and Hort.
From the Forward of the 1950 version NWT:
“The original writings of the Christian Greek Scriptures, commonly called the New Testament, were inspired. No translation of these Sacred writings into another language, is inspired… The Greek text that we have used as a basis of our NW translation is the widely accepted Westcott and Hort text (1881) by reason of its admitted excellence. But we have also taken in to consideration other texts including that prepared by D. Eberhard Nestle and that compiled by the Spanish Jesuit scholar Jose Maria Bover and that by the other Jesuit scholar A. Merk…”
9. *The Jehovah’s Witnesses used Jesuits and Roman Catholic manuscripts to aid in the translation of the New World Translation.
‘GREEK TEXT: The Greek Text that we have used as the basis for the New World Translation is the widely accepted Westcott & Hort text (1881), by reason of its acknowledged excellence. But we have also taken into consideration other texts, including those prepared by D. Eberhard Nestle, the Spanish Jesuit scholar Jose Maria Bover, and another Jesuit scholar, A Merck. The UBS text of 1875 and the Nestle-Aland text of 1979 were cinsukted to update the critical apparatus of this edition.” The Forward, The Kingdom Interlinear Translation of the Greek Scriptures, 1985, page 8.
“In the broad left-hand column of the pages will be found the Greek text edited by B F Westcott and F J a Hort, and published in 1881.” By Way of Explanation, The Kingdom Interlinear Translation of the Greek Scriptures – 1985, page 5.
JW’s Watchtower Exposed
by Jim Searcy
http://www.dccsa.com/greatjoy/jw.htm
JW’s Watchtower Modern Old Heresy
Brief History of the Watchtower
The Most Perverse of the Version Perversions!!
Misleading Revisions in the New World Translation
More on The Most Perverse of the Version Perversions!!
JW’s Watchtower Modern Old Heresy
The Jehovah’s Witnesses and their Watchtower Bible and Tract Society is classic heresy that DENIES that Jesus Christ, Yeshua Messiah, is Creator as well as Redeemer, indeed very God come in the flesh.
GNOSTICISM (Gnahs’ tih kihsm) means special knowledge from the Greek word gnosis. This modern cult religion is just another version of ancient similar heresies which began to surface while the Apostle John was still alive. Cerinthus is typical of the ancient Gnostics before Russell and Rutherford. Cerinthus held that Jesus was merely human until his baptism, when he received a divine power that left him before the crucifixion. The main purpose for the Second Epistle of John was to refute the antichrist gnostic heresies already working before some of the more famous ancient gnostic heretics like Cerinthus and Arius. In later times, men such as Russel and Rutherford would continue to sell this religious gnosticism in various heretical cults.
Arianism was a 4th-century Christian gnostic heresy named for Arius (c.250-c.336), a priest in Alexandria. Arius denied the full deity of the preexistent Son of God who became incarnate in Jesus Christ. He held that the Son, while divine and like God (“of like substance”), was created by God as the agent through whom he created the universe. Arius said of the Son, “there was a time when he was not.” Gnosticism is the modern designation for certain religious and philosophical perspectives, like the Jehovah’s Witnesses and their Watchtower, for the specific systems of belief, characterized by these ideas. Such beliefs emerged in the second century and later. The term “gnosticism” is derived from the Greek word gnosis (knowledge) because secret knowledge was so crucial a doctrine in gnosticism.
It only requires just simple honest scholarship, to see that the latter day gnostic heretics such as Russell, Rutherford, and the rest of the Watchtower gnostic heretics, simply expound the old gnostic heresies of people like Cerinthus and Arius. Rather than FAITH they embrace their special knowledge, gnosis. They will most certainly end up in the lake of fire that God created for the devil and his angels. It is not unloving to tell Jehovah’s Witnesses that they are going to hell. This may be the most loving thing you can tell them. The Watchtower brand of gnostic heresy does not believe in hell. It is very truthful and loving to tell the Jehovah’s Witness that their belief that hell does not exist in no way changes or effects the reality of hell.
Ask, “WHAT IF they are wrong in their belief that hell does not exist?” Ask them what they will do when they die and realize the reality of hell. One’s belief will not change the reality of hell.
Irenaeus reported that one of the reasons John wrote his Gospel was to refute the views of Cerinthus, an early Gnostic. Over against the gnostic assertion that the true God would not enter our world, John stressed in his Gospel that Jesus was God’s incarnate Son. Other interpreters of the New Testament understand gnosticism to be crucial at many other points in interpreting the New Testament.
Although wide variations existed among the many gnostic sects in the details of systems, certain major features were common to most of them–the separation of the god of creation from the god of redemption. They divide Christians into categories with one group being superior. They stress their own secret teachings which only divine persons could comprehend. They stress the exaltation of their knowledge over faith. The true church of Jesus Christ has always rejected such teachings as heretical, but many people have continued to find attraction in varieties of these ideas.
Strong religious demonic spirits are always associated with gnostic heresies. Always be prepared to shout Blood of Yeshua, when dealing with them. When in doubt — shout — Blood of Yeshua! It is wise to have someone praying and pleading the Blood of Yeshua and binding the religious spirits in the name and power of the Blood of Yeshua when dealing with these deeply bound and deceived people.
Brief History of the Watchtower
The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society (the organization run by the Governing Body of the Jehovah’s Witnesses) claims that it is the sole channel of information between God and humanity. They base this claim on a complicated, Bible-based chronology devised by the Adventist N.H. Barbour in 1875.
The founder of Jehovah’s Witnesses, Charles Taze Russell, obtained many of his ideas from Adventists and others who speculated in Bible prophecy. In 1884, Russell founded the Watchtower Society, which became the legal corporation used by the International Bible Students, the early name for Jehovah’s Witnesses. Russell was a high level freemason whose god is Lucifer. Quite naturally, then, Russell and his JW’s would teach that hell is not real.
The chronology stated that Jesus had invisibly returned to earth in 1874 to set up his kingdom, and that in 1914, at the end of the “Gentile Times”, Jesus would come to judge the earth and annihilate the wicked.
When nothing supernatural happened in 1914, the Watchtower Society started transferring all of the doctrines about 1874 to 1914. They explained that Christ’s kingdom had been set up invisibly in 1914, and that although secular governments were still in place, their rule was no longer valid. Based on the Society’s writings, Jehovah’s Witnesses looked forward to momentous events in the year 1918.
When nothing supernatural happened in 1918, the Watchtower Society looked forward to momentous events in 1925.
When nothing supernatural happened in 1925, the Watchtower Society lost three quarters of its members.
Charles Taze Russell had been held to be the “Faithful and Wise Servant” of Matthew 24:45-47, but by 1928 the Society applied that to its leaders. They taught that the scripture was a prophecy, and that in 1918 they had been chosen by Jesus “over all that he hath”. Since they believed Jesus was ruling the world invisibly, they claimed for themselves a position as God’s channel of communication with mankind.
The Society checked its predictions and explained that all of the prophecies in Matthew 24 and 25 would take place within a “single generation” (Matthew 24:34), so the time of “the end of the world” (Matthew 24:3) could be delayed as long as 30 or 40 years. In 1929, (for $30,000,000) the Society built a mansion (“Beth Sarim”) to house the resurrected prophets, who were expected to arrive soon. (When the “resurrected prophets” did not show, Judge Rutherford moved in. The old Judge then lived in what in no way could be called modest housing.) “Beth Sarim” was eventually sold. It is not likely that any of the proceeds of Judge Rutherford’s palace ever made it back into the hand of the poor pioneers that were fleeced to provide that mansion for him.
The new definition of “generation” promised momentous events during the 1940’s.
When nothing supernatural had happened by 1945, the Society extended the meaning of “generation” to 80 years (the maximum lifespan of a typical man, as explained in Psalms 90:10). Although 1914 plus 80 equals 1994, in 1966 the Watchtower Society decided that the year 1975 was “significant”, because they had calculated that it marked the end of six thousand years since the creation of Adam and Eve. Watchtower publications strongly hinted that “the end” would come in 1975.
When nothing supernatural happened in 1975, the Watchtower Society lost many members. It explained that the time between Adam’s creation and Eve’s creation was not known, so the 1975 date was only speculative.
In 1980, the Society suggested that the Witnesses and the publishing staff had been overly enthusiastic about the “possibility” of Armageddon in 1975. This failed to lure back thousands who had left, but regular door-to-door preaching restored the rapid growth the Witnesses had enjoyed since the “significance” of 1975 had been announced.
When the year 1994 arrived (1914 plus 80 years), nothing supernatural happened. The Society had not ascribed any special significance to 1994, but the “generation” issue was becoming awkward. The ranks of the Society’s special members (the 144,000 who were “anointed”, based on an interpretation of Revelation) were dying out. The claim that Jesus had appointed the Watchtower Society special status in 1918 was becoming hard to defend.
In 1995, the Watchtower Society decided that “generation” did not mean a physical generation (i.e. 80 years) but meant “age”, as in “era”. This extended the “end times” indefinitely, although when the last of the 144,000 special members die out, the Society will have to be run by regular members.
A close inspection of Matthew 24:34 in context makes the “age” interpretation hard to understand, since Jesus speaks of the generation “passing away” (which sounds like a physical event). The Watchtower Society states that it alone understands that “generation” means “age” because it has special status, which was granted to it in 1918.
The Watchtower magazine, published by the Society, has said the end is “soon”, in every issue since it was first printed … in 1879.
Footnotes
The Society did not consider 1994 “special”, because the end was supposed to occur within the time of a typical human lifespan (as “generation” was then interpreted), not at the end of a generation. Here are some quotations from Watchtower literature that illustrate their position prior to November 1995:
Watchtower 1968/12/01 p. 715:
… did not Jesus say that this generation will not pass away until all things are fulfilled? A generation, according to Psalm 90:10, is from seventy to eighty years. The generation that witnessed the end of the Gentile Times in 1914 does not have many more years left. – Luke 21:24, 32-36.
Watchtower 1967/12/15 p. 751:
… the expression “this generation” was used by Jesus to mark a very limited period of time, the life-span of members of a generation of people living during the time that certain epoch-making events occurred. According to Psalm 90:10, that life-span could be of seventy years or even of eighty years. Into this comparatively short period of time must be crowded all the things that Jesus prophesied in answer to the request for a “sign when all these things are destined to come to a conclusion.” (Mark 13:4)
Awake! masthead from March 1988 until November 1995:
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The Most Perverse of the Version Perversions!!
Did you know that The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society refuses to give their followers the names and credentials of the Translation Committee of their Bible, The New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures (see pg. 258 of Jehovah’s Witnesses in the Divine Purpose). This is more important than the Watchtower Society will admit since the New World Translation Committee has deceived many in their perversion of the Bible in the following ways:
They have invented non-existent rules of Greek grammar and then proceeded to follow these rules only when necessary to support their peculiar perverted gnostic heresy of the old arian theology. A clear example of this is John 1:1, where the Translation Committee has rendered the Greek “and the Word was a god”. We cite the appendix of another Watchtower publication (The Kingdom Interlinear Translation of the Greek Scriptures, page 1158), for their footnote concerning John 1:1:
“The reason for their rendering the Greek word Divine and not God is that it is the Greek noun Theos without the definite article…” May we call the Watchtower Society’s attention to verses 6, 12 and 13 (also found in the first chapter of the Gospel of John). Here the Greek noun Theos appears without the definite article (as in John 1:1) and yet the Translating Committee has translated each verse as (Jehovah) God.
Another example of non-existent rules followed only when needed to support their theology is found in the forward of their Kingdom Interlinear Translation (pg. 18). Here we are taught how to restore the Divine name. We are instructed that we can render the Greek words “Kyrios” (Lord) and “Theos” (God) into Divine name by determining if the Christian (Greek) writers have quoted from the Hebrew Scriptures (Old Testament). If so, we can render “Kyrios” (Lord) and “Theos” (God) as Jehovah God.
At this point it may be worthwhile to point out the very high likelihood that “Jehovah” is a nonsense word. In the original Hebrew there were no vowels, and no difference between upper and lower case (capital and small letters). Hellenistic Christians choose to mark the respect by inserting the vowel, and capitalizing the first letter, neither of which are in the original. Jewish people mark the respect by capitalizing the first letter (which is not in the original), and indicating the vowel is not there in the original. One extra thing about this method is that if G-d is never written in full, no-one can deface the word!
G-d’s personal name is spelt Yod Heh Vav Heh in the Hebrew. This approximates to Y H V H. The vowels were not written until about the thirteenth century C.E. G-d’s personal name was only spoken in the temple on Yom Kippur after the High Priest had entered the Holy of Holies, and resulted in those hearing falling prone and reciting the second phrase of the Shema, “Blessed be His name (HaShem) whose glorious kingdom shall be for ever and ever.” During the Babylonian captivity His personal Name was never spoken at all, there was no access to the temple. Upon return to Jerusalem 70 years later, no-one was sure how to pronounce His name, so the word Adonai was substituted, which means ‘L-rd’. Alternatively haShem was used which means ‘the Name’, especially when the word Adonai immediately preceded G-d’s personal name.
When the vowel points were added, over a thousand years later, the vowels were not actually known. The vowels for Adonai were used instead. In England at about that time, and for some time later, there was a great persecution of the Jews, and they were driven out of the country, killed, or forced to abandon Judaism. When the English versions of the Bible were becoming popular (Wycliffe, Tyndale et al.) there was no significant Jewish presence to speak of in England. So the gentiles, in ignorance, assumed that G-d’s personal Name had the vowels of Adonai in it. It would be like taking the consonants of your first name and using the vowels of your last name.
Some people still believe these were the correct vowels. However it is more likely that they are not the right vowels, and no-one can be sure. To avoid being disrespectful by using a nonsense word to refer to G-d, most Jewish people will not refer to Him as Jehovah or Yahweh, the English equivalents of this nonsense word. Some regard the idea of referring to the Almighty One by a nonsense word as blasphemous, and there is a good case for viewing things this way. Always remind the JW that most likely Jehovah is a nonsense word.
Once again, the Watchtower “rule” is avoided by the Translation Committee as they translate Philippians 2:11. The Apostle Paul quotes Isaiah 45:23 as he states that “every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Jehovah God (Kyrios) to the glory of God the Father.”
The Translation Committee has made up a Greek tense that is non-existent. We cite the 1950 edition of their “New World Translation of the Christian Greek Scriptures” rendering of John 8:58 where they have translated “ego eimi” as “I have been” and state that it is “properly rendered in the perfect indefinite tense” in the Greek language. There is NO “perfect indefinite tense” in any language! After the Watchtower Society was informed of this fact, they made the change to the “perfect tense indicative” but as the Greek student knows, it is present tense and is correctly translated “I AM” (see Exodus 3:14).
They have added words to Scripture which changes the meaning of the texts to agree with their theology. Notice the Watchtower’s rendering of Colossians 1:16,17, where the word “other” has been added four times to the text, completely changing its meaning. When Paul wrote those passages that the Son created all things, it is obvious that the Son was not himself created. The Watchtower, however, believes that the Son is also a created being and has therefore added “other” – not found in the Greek Biblical text at all – to make it appear that the Son is also a creature. As mentioned before, the Translation Committee has added the word “a” to John 1:1 to make the Son a creature rather than God Himself. Take note also of the same deceitfulness displayed in Philippians 2:9 where the word “other” is again added, when it is not found or even suggested in the original Greek.
The men who comprised the Translation Committee had no adequate schooling or background to function as critical Bible translators. The self-appointed “scholars” who made up this Translation Committee were: N.H. Knorr, F.W. Franz, A.D. Schroeder, G.D. Gangas and M. Henschel. Aside from President Franz, none of the Translation Committee members knew Biblical Greek or Hebrew and Franz’s ability is open to serious question. This came out in the Scottish Court Sessions in November, 1954 (just four years after the release of the Watchtower Scriptures). The following exchange of question and answers between the attorney and Franz is taken from the trial transcript:
Q. Have you also made yourself familiar with Hebrew?
A. Yes …
Q. So that you have substantial linguistic apparatus at your command?
A. Yes, for use in my biblical work.
Q. I think you are able to read and follow the Bible in Hebrew, Greek, Latin, Spanish, Portuguese, German and French?
A. Yes … (Pursuer’s Proof, pg. 7)
Q. You, yourself, read and speak Hebrew, do you?
A. I do not speak Hebrew.
Q. You do not?
A. No
Q. Can you, yourself, translate that into Hebrew?
A. Which?
Q. That fourth verse of the second chapter of Genesis.
A. You mean here?
Q. Yes.
A. No, I wouldn’t attempt to do that. (Pursuer’s Proof, pgs. 102,103).
What Franz failed to do was a simple exercise which an average first or second year Hebrew student in any seminary would have no difficulty (see further, “We left Jehovah’s Witnesses – A non-Prophet Organization” – Edmond C. Gruss, pg. 59-101). It is also interesting to note that no Greek scholar with any credentials will endorse the New World Translation.
Bill Centnar, in 1954 (while still a Jehovah’s Witness working at Bethel), was assigned to interview a well known Bible translator, Dr. Edgar J. Goodspeed, asking him for his evaluation and recommendation of the New World Translation of the Hebrew Scriptures. Dr. Goodspeed replied: “No, I’m afraid that I could not do that. The grammar is regrettable…”
We should also state that the theology brought forth in this translation is a fatal distortion of Biblical truth. It is DEADLY and I would even say DEMONIC distortion. It will most certainly lead its adherents to the eternal lake of hell fire in which they believe does not exist. Does the belief that hell does not exist in any way effect the reality of hell. WHAT IF hell does really exist? What if our wrong beliefs cause us to end up in hell?
We ask you not to put your trust in such a perverse translation of Holy Scripture or in the Society that has deceived many in the writing of it. Christians profess that faith and trust be placed in the Lord Jesus Christ. Yeshua said that unless you believe that HE IS the Eternal God (Ego Eimi – “I AM”), you will die in your sins (John 8:24). It is because of the danger of the perversion of the New World Translation of Holy Scriptures that this warning has been written. Our concern is for the Jehovah’s Witnesses to come to know The Truth. The Truth is The LORD Jesus Christ, Yeshua The Messiah.
More on The Most Perverse of the Version Perversions!!
Misleading Revisions in the New World Translation
The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society (WTBTS) has inserted numerous changes into a proper translation of the Bible in an effort to validate the non-Christian doctrines of the Jehovah’s Witnesses (JWs). Consequently, they claim that their New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures (NWT) is superior to all others.
In the examples below, the Authorized English Scriptures, the only not copyrighted Bible. The KJV, 1611 King James Version, is the only Bible that represents the 7th purification spoken in Psalm 12:6. Like Dr. Frank Logsdon, co-founder and chief-editor of the New American Standard Version confessed before he died: “You can say the Authorized Version (KJV) is absolutely correct. How correct? 100%correct!. . . I believe the Spirit of G-d led the translators of the Authorized Version. If you must stand against everyone else, stand.”
The second quotation in each example is derived from a post-1989 edition of the NWT (WTBTS of Pennsylvania and International Bible Students Association, c. 1984). References to actual Hebrew and Greek words are derived from Strong’s Exhaustive Concordance of the Bible (Thomas Nelson, c. 1990), the Greek-English New Testament (Christianity Today, c. 1975) and Vine’s Expository Dictionary of New Testament Words (McDonald, unabridged ed., n.d.)
Genesis 1:2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
“Spirit of God” changed to “God’s active force.”
The revision modifies the original noun with a more impersonal form as the JWs reject the orthodox Christian belief in the personality of the Holy Spirit.
Exodus 3:14 And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.
“I AM” changed to “I shall prove to be.”
The revision clouds the connection between God’s self proclaimed title and Jesus’ proclamation of being the same in John 8:58, as the JW rejects the deity of Jesus.
Numbers 1:52 And the children of Israel shall pitch their tents, every man by his own camp, and every man by his own standard, throughout their hosts.
“By his own standard” changed to “by his [three-tribe] division.”
The Hebrew word degal translated as “standard” literally means flag or banner. Since the JWs regard saluting a flag as an act of idolatry, the text has been altered according to their doctrinal bias. (Same revision found in Num. 2:2, 3, 10, 18, 25; 10: 14, 18, 22, 25.)
Isaiah 43:10 Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.
“Neither shall there be after me” changed to “after me there continued to be none.”
The original future tense of the verb indicates that there will never be another being sharing in God’s divinity. The altered tense suggests credibility to the JW doctrine of Jesus’ becoming a “mighty god” while still being less than Jehovah in nature. (See the John 1: I discussion below for another expression of this JW distortion.)
Ecclesiastes 12:7 Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.
“The spirit shall return” changed to “the spirit itself returns.”
The passage indicates the return of a human spirit to God after death. Since the JWs believe in an unconscious state after death, “itself’ has been inserted to suggest a more impersonal reference to spirit.
Matthew 2:11 And when they were come into the house, they saw the young child with Mary his mother, and fell down, and worshipped him: and when they had opened their treasures, they presented unto him gifts; gold, and frankincense, and myrrh.
“Fell down, and worshipped him” changed to “did obeisance to it”
The JWs evade recognizing Jesus as worthy of worship as a divine being by altering the form of honor that he receives from men and angels. The Greek word proskuneo literally means “worship.” The use of “obeisance” is a NWT adaptation. (Same revision found in Matt. 8:2; 9:18, 14:33; 15:25; 28:9, 17; Mark 5:6; 15:19; Luke 24:52; John 9:38; Heb. 1:6.)
Matthew 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
“Least in the kingdom of heaven” changed to “least in relation to the kingdom of the heaven.”
The passage indicates that a disobedient believer who sins can still find forgiveness and eternal life. The JWs believe heaven is reserved for only 144,000 specially designated servants of God. The revision suggests more separation between these groups through a status hierarchy.
Matthew 25:46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.
“Everlasting punishment” changed to “everlasting cutting-off.”
The Greek word kolasis translated “punishment” indicates continuous torment, but the NWT revision suggests “termination,” as the JWs promote the doctrine of annihilationism regarding condemned souls.
Mark 1:4 John did baptize in the wilderness, and preach the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins.
“Baptism of repentance” changed to “baptism [in symbol] of repentance. ”
Nothing in the original Greek text justifies the insertion of “in symbol.” The revision undermines the significance of John the Baptist’s ministry, the Jewish meaning of baptism and the Christian sacrament of baptism in contrast to the more regimented JW baptism requirements.
Luke 12:8 Also I say unto you, Whosoever shall confess me before men, him shall the Son of man also confess before the angels of God:
“Confess me before men” changed to “confesses union with me.”
The addition of “union” suggest something more than what the original Greek actually states and adds further credibility to the NWT distortion presented in John 6:56 below.
Luke 23:43 And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise.
‘To day shalt thou be with me” changed to “I tell you today, You will be with me.”
Jesus assured the thief on the cross that their spirits would soon enter the spiritual/heavenly realm together. As the JWs REJECT the belief in the conscious survival of the human spirit after death, their revision suggests that “today” deals with the time of the statement rather than the relocation of their spirits.
John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
“Word was God” changed to “Word was a god.”
The JWs reject the orthodox Christian belief in the deity of Jesus. The revision asserts that Jesus was someone other than God Himself.
John 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
“Believe” changed to “exercise faith.”
The orthodox Christian doctrine of spiritual justification and rebirth before God by belief in Jesus is in conflict with the JW doctrine of salvation by works (i.e., obedience to their organization). The revision attempts to describe salvation as a continuous process rather than a radical encounter and transition (Same revision found in John 3:16, 18; 6:29; Rom. 4:3, 10:4, 9, 10.)
John 6:56 He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him.
“Dwelleth in me” changed to “remains in union with me.”
The mystical union between the individual human spirit and the Spirit of Jesus is obscured by restructuring “in” with a compound form. The substitution implies more separation between a Christian and Jesus. (Same revision found in John 14:20; Rom. 8:1, 2, 10; 12:5; 2 Cor. 5:17; Gal. 3:28; Eph. 1:13*; 2:10, 13, 15, 21, 22; 3:6; Col. 1:14*, 16*, 27; 2:6, 10*, 11, 12*; 3:3; 1 Thes. 4:16; 5:18; 1 John 3:24; 4:4; 5:20. Verses with an asterisk (*) indicate where the revision uses “by means of” or “in relationship to” rather than “IN Christ.”)
John 8:58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
“I am” changed to “I have been.”
Same intent as described in Exodus 3:14 above.
John 14:17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
“Because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him” changed to “beholds it or knows it.”
The revision ignores the context of the pronoun with the Comforter role in the preceding verse to deny the personality of the Holy Spirit.
John 17:5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.
“Glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was” changed to “glorify me alongside yourself with the glory that I had alongside you.”
The original text reflects the shared deity of God the Father and Jesus before the creation of the world, but the revision suggests different natures as implied by different states of glory.
John 17:21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.
“Father, art in me” changed to “are in union with me.”
The original statement by Jesus indicates his shared deity with the Father. The revision undermines this by suggesting a greater separation between them.
Acts 2:17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:
“Pour out of my Spirit” changed to “pour out some of my spirit.”
The revision evades recognition of the Holy Spirit and His activity at Pentecost by suggesting an impersonal force activated to a more limited degree by God.
Acts 2:42 And they continued stedfastly in the apostles’ doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers.
“Breaking of bread” changed to “taking of meals.”
The passage demonstrates the frequency of the communion sacrament among the earliest Christians. The revision is an attempt to disguise this practice as the JWs teach that communion is reserved for only the 144,000 special saints. (Same revision found in Acts 20:7.)
Acts 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.
“Be saved” changed to “get saved.”
The revision avoids recognizing that an individual commitment to Jesus provides immediate and complete salvation, as the JWs believe in an alternative salvation as prescribed by their organization. (Same revision found in Acts 16:30-31.)
Acts 10:36 The word which God sent unto the children of Israel, preaching peace by Jesus Christ: (he is Lord of all:)
“Lord of all” changed to “Lord of all [others].”
The revision suggests that even though Jesus is highly honored, he is still one among many of God’s created beings. (Similar revisions found in Rom. 8:32; Phil. 2:9; Col. 1: 16-17.)
Romans 2:29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.
“In the Spirit” changed to “by spirit.”
Although the definite article ‘the” does not literally appear in the Greek, it is implied by the form that (pneuma) appears in. The revision, however, translates pneuma in a more abstract form to evade the reality of the Holy Spirit. (Same revision found in Rom. 15:19; Eph. 2:22; 3:5; Titus 3:5; James 2:26; 2 Peter 1:21.)
Romans 8:23a And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit,
“Have the firstfruits of the Spirit” changed to “have the firstfruits, namely the spirit.”
This represents another form of disguising the separate personality of the Holy Spirit as in Rom. 2:29 above. The original text refers to the derivatives of the Spirit, but the revision identifies the spirit as a derivative.
Romans 8:23b even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.
“The redemption of our body” changed to “the release from our bodies by ransom.”
This revision avoids the suggestion that there is continuity of either body or soul after death. Their teaching that the soul ceases to exist at the death of the body precludes the ownership of, or relationship to, a body that must be redeemed.
Romans 8:28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.
“All things” changed to “all his works.”
The revision undermines the sovereignty of God by suggesting that He controls only the things He is directly involved in doing.
Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
“For whom he did foreknow” changed to “those whom he gave his first recognition.”
The revision obscures the nature of God’s knowledge and power as a first recognition may or may not be foreknowledge.
Romans 9:5 Whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came, who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen.
“Christ came, who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen.” changed to “Christ, [sprang] according to the flesh: God who is over all, [be] blessed forever.”
The direction proclamation that Christ is God is obscured by the altered text.
Romans 10:13 For they being ignorant of God’s righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.
“God” changed to “Jehovah.”
This revision obscures the fact that the God referred to in verse 13 is the same God called Jesus in verse 9. Since the JWs reject the deity of Jesus, the revision is made accordingly.
The Greek word, kurios, translated “Lord” has been revised to “Jehovah” over 200 times in the NWT. The JWs insist that this is the only valid title for God, even though Greek-speaking Jews used “Lord” and “God” in place of “Yahweh” (the source of “Jehovah”) throughout their Septuagint translation of the Old Testament. Furthermore, the Bible contains dozens of names for God other than Lord, Yahweh, or Jehovah.
Romans 13:1 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.
“For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.” changed to “authorities stand placed in their relative positions by God.”
Since the JW regard saluting a flag, military service and similar forms of submission to government as idolatry, they have added words to the text to weaken the proclaimed authority of government.
1 Corinthians 6:19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?
“Your body is a temple of the Holy Ghost” changed to “the body of YOU people is [the] temple of the holy spirit.”
To avoid recognition of the indwelling of the Holy Spirit in the individual believer, the revision modifies “body” to a more collective form in harmony with the opposing JW doctrine.
1 Corinthians 10:4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.
“That Rock was Christ” changed to “that rock-mass meant the Christ.”
The passage depicts the preincarnate Jesus exhibiting his divine nature by being present many centuries earlier. This revision tries to conceal his eternal nature with a more figurative interpretation of “the Rock.”
1 Corinthians 12:11 But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will.
“As severally as he will” changed to “as it wills.”
The NWT finds many ways to disguise the personality of the Holy Spirit. In this case the third person pronoun exercising individual conscience and will is replaced with an impersonal pronoun.
1 Corinthians 14:14-16 For if I pray in an unknown tongue, my spirit prayeth, but my understanding is unfruitful. What is it then? I will pray with the spirit, and I will pray with the understanding also: I will sing with the spirit, and I will sing with the understanding also.
Else when thou shalt bless with the spirit, how shall he that occupieth the room of the unlearned say Amen at thy giving of thanks, seeing he understandeth not what thou sayest?
“Spirit” changed to “[gift of the] spirit.”
Like several other Biblical passages, this one indicates the distinctive presence of the human spirit as distinguished from the mind and body. The JWs evade these distinctions and try to disguise them with related revisions.
1 Corinthians 15:2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
“By which also ye are saved (this gospel)” changed to “through which YOU are also being saved.”
Similar to the Acts 16:30 revision above, this one again obscures the completeness of salvation by grace. The JW’s salvation exists as an extended process (“being saved”) with the outcome being uncertain until final judgment before Jehovah.
Galatians 6:18 Brethren, the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with your spirit. Amen.
“Your spirit” changed to “the spirit YOU [show].”
Similar to the I Cor. 14 revision above, this one attempts to obscure the reality of the individual human spirit by presenting it more as an attitude of action than an entity.
Philippians 1:23 For I am in a strait betwixt two, having a desire to depart, and to be with Christ; which is far better:
“To depart, and to be with Christ” changed to “the releasing and the being with Christ.”
Paul’s eagerness indicates that the believer’s spirit goes immediately into Christ’s presence at death. The revision suggests that death and being with Christ are two separate steps in an extended process, as the JWs believe in soul sleep (i.e., the unconscious state of the human spirit awaiting the resurrection).
Colossians 1:19 For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell;
“All fullness” changed to “fullness.”
The definite Greek article (to), translated “all,” indicates that Jesus shares the Father’s divine nature as also shown in Col. 2:9. The revisions evade the truth by concealing the similarity of the two passages.
Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
“All the fulness of the Godhead” changed to “the fullness of the divine quality.”
The Greek theotes, translated “deity,” literally means divine essence or divinity. As the JWs reject the divine nature of Jesus, a revision is inserted to suggest that Jesus is limited to only divine-like characteristics.
I Timothy 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
“The Spirit” changed to “the inspired utterance.”
This revision attempts to obscure the reality and activity of the Holy Spirit by representing it as a message instead of an entity. (Similar revisions found in 1 John 4:1, 3, 6 with “expression” being utilized in place of “utterance.”)
Titus 2:13 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;
“Great God and our Savior Jesus Christ” changed to “the great God and of [the] Savior of us, Christ Jesus.”
Similar to the Rom. 9:5 revision shown above, a distinct proclamation of Jesus as God is obscured by the altered text. (Similar rewording also found in 2 Peter 1:1.)
Hebrews 1:8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.
“Thy throne, 0 God” changed to “God is your throne.”
The revision avoids addressing the Son, Jesus, as God to validate the JWs’ rejection of his divine nature.
Hebrews 9:14 How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?
“The eternal Spirit” changed to “an everlasting spirit.”
Similar to the Rom. 2:29 revision above, the switching of the article before the adjective represents the work of the Holy Spirit in a more indirect/ impersonal manner.
Hebrews 12:9 Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live?
“Father of spirits” changed to “Father of our spiritual life.”
Similar to the I Cor. 14 revision shown above, this one tries to obscure the distinctive reality of human spirits by replacing them with a more abstract noun.
Hebrews 12:23 To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect,
“The spirits of just men made perfect” changed to “the spiritual lives of righteous ones.”
This revision represents the same noun-switching as described in Heb. 12:9 above.
Hebrews 12:28 Wherefore we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have grace, whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear:
“We receiving a kingdom” changed to “we are to receive a kingdom.”
An orthodox Christian understanding of the Kingdom recognizes it as primarily established through Jesus’ victorious death, then further through post-resurrection displays of his power, and perpetually through the addition of new believers into God’s family. The JWs teach that Jesus’ Kingdom did not begin until his invisible return in 1914. The form of the Greek word for “receiving” (paralambano) implies a current condition, but the revision suggests a future event according to the JW doctrine.
1 Peter 1:11 Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow.
“Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify” changed to “the spirit in them was indicating concerning Christ.”
Another example of the supernatural presence of Jesus in the life of a Christian is obscured again by this revision as the JW doctrinal view presents him as more limited.
I Peter 3:18-19 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit: By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;
“By the Spirit: By which also he went” changed to “in the spirit. In this [state].”
Similar to several examples presented above, in this passage the presence and personality of the Holy Spirit is obscured with a more abstract representation of the Holy Spirit to accommodate the JW doctrine.
Jude 19 These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit.
“Having not the Spirit.” changed to “having spirituality.”
Similar to Gal. 6:18 above, this revision attempts to obscure the separate presence of the Holy Spirit.
Revelation 3:14 And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God;
“These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God;” changed to “beginning of the creation by God.”
The altered prepositions distract from the sovereignty of Jesus indicated in the passage and suggests that the real power of creation was accomplished through the Father, as the JWs believe that Jesus is a created being.
Approximately one-fourth of the verse citations above were derived from The New World Translation on Trial by Robert Bowman in the Christian Research Journal, 11: 3 (Winter/Spring, 1989), p.20. The rest of this inventory was compiled from Andy Bjorklund’s comparisons of doctrinally critical verses. There are many more examples of Biblical distortions by the JWs than this short summary. This summary should illustrate the hell bent and hell bound destiny of all tied and bound to the JW’s watchtower. The JW’s would be just as well served believing in Harvey the 6 foot invisible rabbit as the fabricated Jesus they profess. The only hope for the deceived JW or anyone is to get to KNOW The Truth, Yeshua the Messiah.
John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.
John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
The duped JW needs to get to KNOW the REAL Jesus or they will soon enough get to know the reality of hell.
Wow thank you for writing so much and to defend the Word of God and stand up for truth!
Jesus was ruling the world invisibly, they claimed for themselves a position as God’s channel of communication with mankind. This also sounds like catholic church who says the pope is the communicator of God.
Beautiful, greatly appreciated the cited historical information that I can track but mostly love the call out through Scripture that shows the twisted play on words the JW use. Makes no sense not to use the Original Holy Bible, Comes straight out of God’s Inspired Disciple’s mouth who Walked With Jesus Christ. AND JW’s also seem to spit out more the OT .. Jesus came to make old things New, thank God!
Ok listen up you hypocrite’s. Why would you down shame another religion when we haven’t necessarily done anything to you? You taunt and shame our religion, But did we slice off your head like David did goliath? No. Stop talking about each other. EVERYONE HAS THEIR RIGHT TO CHOOSE THEIR OWN RELIGION! Stop judging us for you have no right to do so, especially since anyone can say their religion is right. Just stand to reason that JW is one thing and Christianity is another.
Jesus said he is Gods Son and that he and his Father are one. He never lied. He did not say he was Michael the Archangel. It states in the Bible that you are not to add to or take away anything written thereof. JW is a cult, NOT a religion.They are decievers and racists as well. Look it up for yourself. Jesus said, No one comes to the Father except thru belief in me.Period.
AGREE!!!!
Agree!!!Teach it giirrll.
You are right Jesus said he is God’s Son. You are your mom’s daughter are you the same person as your mom? When a man and a woman are gets married Jesus says they are no longer 2 but one flesh? How is a husband and wife one flesh? Is it that the wife becomes the husband and the husband becomes the wife? How are they one flesh? When you can answer that question you will be able to understand what Jesus meant when he said : “I and the Father are one.” Remember too that he prayed that his disciples be one just as he and his Father are one according to John 17:21. So one in what sense my dear? Please contact the JWs.or visit JW.ORG. you will not regret it.
Yes I agree with you. Just stop coming to my house and sending me letters! You stick with yours and I’ll stick with mine and share with people who seek out the truth.
You people who call yourselves Christians are truly nothing of the sort as you rail vehemently against each other to such an extent that throughout history you have taken up arms against one another and persecuted each other over these same so called differences discussed here today. Do you not understand that your Christianity has been misused and abused by warlords, despots and self serving demagogues for the promotion of hate, disenfranchisement and forced migration of the conquered or the weak and aggrandizement of power and money not to mention political gain! This almost always leads to war, fratricide and, genocide in the name of the God you are supposed to obey and serve. Did Jesus say to do any of this! Is that what he would do? No! The word said “be fruitful and multiply” not to be hateful and subtract or divide! Thou shalt not kill (divide or subtract). [You] all have sinned and come shot of the glory of God! So, get on your knees and pray for forgiveness and wisdom! And when you get up stop the hating on each other!
Do Jesus says : for the Kingdom of God ; in the name of The Father and of The Son and of The Holy Spirit.
The intertwine or intergrade of The Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit is the matter of God.
Our problem is to listen to God and to Jesus.
The Holy Spirit , The Son and The Father of The Only God that from the beginning, the Old Testament and continue to the New Testament and of the present time and the coming infinitive of time . How do we see The Father without The Son or without The Holy Spirit and certainly The Father is not The Son nor The Holy Spirit . Surely there are three different Deities
Jesus said which is all in red letters i am the way the truth the life you cannot come to the Father except through me ..To know me is to know the Father … To be saved one must be born again …. Confess with your mouth and believe in your heart that Jesus is Lord you will be saved …. 🙂 By Grace Through Faith In Christ Alone you are saved …. All Glory To God and our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ …
So those judged righteous,are not going to live on a paradise earth, God’s tent with mankind?
Can any one tell me about the cease of toung’s i go to Pentecost church and i can understand that the toung’s out of some might be fake but the ones that i know are truly anointed and speak bold and the truly anointed translate it would not fake it to blasphem. Im not very smart as it comes to texting and writing so i pray you understand what im trying to say
Thank you
And without controversy, great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, Justified in the spirit, seen of angels,preached unto the gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory. ITim 3:16 KJV
You know what, you can really supply a lot of bull shit. Yes, I do swear a lot, so f-ing what???? Is Jesus going to condemn me to hell? Obviously not, because Jehovah is God, Jesus’ Father. And I am not scared of using Jehovah’s name as God
Who in the world doesn’t know that JW is a cult? It’s a doomsday cult. I am fed up with the loosely used “do not judge”. In fact, “do not judge” is a judgemental statement and used by those who have no idea of what kind of judging is forbidden. What a joke for a JW to claims that there is no difference between their cult and other Christians! They believe that no one is going to get saved except those in the JW circle.
I was taught in school by my RE teacher (shout out Mr Wurmouth) that God is like water, when explaining the trinity. Like water God exists in multiple states. When boiling a kettle, the steam is water, when running the tap the liquid is water and the ice-cubes in your freezer are water too. Humidity is all around us even though we can’t see it and can’t always perceive it like God the Father. The Holy Spirit is like liquid that flows through us, which we can feel, interact with and in moments it washes over us like taking a bath or placing our hands under a tap. Jesus the Son is the ice-cube, Emmanuel, God with us, who was a physical manifestation who could be touched, held and felt. You can’t say either of these forms (gas, liquid or solid) are not water. They all are. In the same way God the Father, Jesus the Son and the Holy Spirit cannot be separated. I hope this helps someone. We do not fight against blood and flesh so I hope this discussion’s purpose is to grow our collective knowledge and bring us together in Christ. God bless us all.
From what I gathered from this short blurb, although I am not defending anyone other than “true Christians,” you appear to have no idea what you’re talking about. No knowledge of Bible history, the history of the church, etc.
All of you attacking he should read proverbs 8:30 ..with this you will not believe in Trinity anymore…may Jehovah bless us all
I strongly believe that the JW are not christians its just a cult meant to lead people astray..For as long as they dont believe in the trinity they aint belivers..they are just witness like a poster it leads people where it doesnt go..Its rather a bunch of people domed for for hell.
I always pray that God can change them like he Changed me to know what the truth is i was once a Jehovah’s witness bit i thank God am in the Dawn.
They that do not preach my words they all still work for I
Simply stated, Bible believers believe in Jehovah El Emet-, the Lord whose word is Always true and never changes. Jehovah Witness believe in the Lord Jehovah Jive who’s word changes and breaks his promises.